Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Josh Luthman]

Forgot to mention...the MUM presentations are usually online.  Both
historically and live (forget the link, just look at the
Facebook/Twitter when the even comes around).

http://tiktube.com/?video=354

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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Butch Evans  wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:29 -0500, Cameron Crum wrote:
>> While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the
>> last 4 years and always found it productive and informative.
>
> 100% agreement from me.
>
>> I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in
>> StLouis.
>
> I agree from the perspective of quality.  In terms of usefulness,
> however, keep in mind that it has a much narrower focus (as you point
> out).
>
>> I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are wasting your time,
>> but otherwise, it is a good thing.
>
> While the MUM is pretty Mikrotik specific, there are often topics that
> would be of general interest, too.  For the most part, you are right,
> though...
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 00:29 -0500, Cameron Crum wrote:
> While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the
> last 4 years and always found it productive and informative.

100% agreement from me.

> I'd personally put it on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in
> StLouis. 

I agree from the perspective of quality.  In terms of usefulness,
however, keep in mind that it has a much narrower focus (as you point
out).

> I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are wasting your time,
> but otherwise, it is a good thing.

While the MUM is pretty Mikrotik specific, there are often topics that
would be of general interest, too.  For the most part, you are right,
though...

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Cameron Crum]

While not really a training event, I've been to every US MUM in the last 4
years and always found it productive and informative. I'd personally put it
on par with last weeks Wispa Regional in StLouis. The ones I've been to were
about the same in size and while the topics were not as diverse, I certainly
learned quite a bit. I guess if you are not a MT user/fan then you are
wasting your time, but otherwise, it is a good thing.

Cameron

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

>  Paul,
>
> I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs.
> www.linktechs.net is a vendor member and provides Mikrotik certification
> training.
>
> WISPA vendor members help in providing financial support for WISPA and
> it's efforts in promoting our industry.  You can find a list of other
> WISPA vendor members at
> http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=131
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 7/28/2010 11:41 AM, Butch Evans wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> >> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions?
> >> I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've
> >> integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far
> >> it's working well, be nice to have a little official training
> >> though.
> > I have a training class scheduled for next week (see
> > http://store.wispgear.net/ for details).  Mikrotik's "official" training
> > (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the
> > difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying...
> >
> > As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows.  I've never heard
> > anyone say they were disappointed for having attended.
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Jim Patient]

  Paul,

I would suggest using a WISPA vendor member for your training needs.  
www.linktechs.net is a vendor member and provides Mikrotik certification 
training.

WISPA vendor members help in providing financial support for WISPA and 
it's efforts in promoting our industry.  You can find a list of other 
WISPA vendor members at
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=131

Jim


On 7/28/2010 11:41 AM, Butch Evans wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
>> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions?
>> I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've
>> integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far
>> it's working well, be nice to have a little official training
>> though.
> I have a training class scheduled for next week (see
> http://store.wispgear.net/ for details).  Mikrotik's "official" training
> (from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the
> difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying...
>
> As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows.  I've never heard
> anyone say they were disappointed for having attended.
>





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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Justin Wilson]

The MUM is one of those yoy get what you pay for.  Genrally you get
enough out of it to justify going.  Butch is correct in the training.  The
heavy accents can be a problem.  A buddy of mine took their training in
Chicago and found it difficult to communicate his questions correctly so
they would understand.
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From: Butch Evans 
Organization: Butch Evans Consulting
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:41:30 -0500
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:
> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions?
> I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've
> integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far
> it's working well, be nice to have a little official training
> though.

I have a training class scheduled for next week (see
http://store.wispgear.net/ for details).  Mikrotik's "official" training
(from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the
difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying...

As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows.  I've never heard
anyone say they were disappointed for having attended.

-- 

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* http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks   *
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Scott Reed]

MUM is not for training, but MT is offering several courses the same 
week as MUM.  I think at the same venue.
I went to MUM Dallas last year.  It is worth while.  Though not for 
training, I did learn a lot.  There were several presentations on new 
things and there were presentations on new ways to use the old things.
I also was able to meet a bunch of folks from the maillists I 
participate in.  Though I was not able to make the WISPA event in St 
Louis, from what I heard there was a lot more going on there than at a 
MUM.  Still for the price, I did find it worthwhile and hope to attend 
again this year.


Josh Luthman wrote:
MUM is not for training.  MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been 
there.  It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how 
some people use Mikrotik.


If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes.  I found the 
basic class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the 
material.


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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger > wrote:


Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm
thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've
integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far it's
working well, be nice to have a little official training though.

-Paul




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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Butch Evans]

On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 09:24 -0700, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: 
> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? 
> I'm thinking of going this year, curious what to expect. I've 
> integrated mikrotik into our production network and so far 
> it's working well, be nice to have a little official training 
> though.

I have a training class scheduled for next week (see
http://store.wispgear.net/ for details).  Mikrotik's "official" training
(from the reviews I've seen) don't get very good reviews, due to the
difficulty people have in understanding what they are saying...

As for the MUM, they are generally pretty good shows.  I've never heard
anyone say they were disappointed for having attended.

-- 

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* http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering  *
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* http://blog.butchevans.com/   * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!  *





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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Paul Gerstenberger]

I also wanted a plane ticket to Phoenix, hoping I could justify it.

-Paul

On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> MUM is not for training.  MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been there. 
>  It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how some people use 
> Mikrotik.
> 
> If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes.  I found the basic 
> class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the material.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger  wrote:
> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of 
> going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our 
> production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little 
> official training though.
> 
> -Paul
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Josh Luthman]

MUM is not for training.  MUM is similar to Animal Farm if you've been
there.  It's more of a trade show and has a few presentations on how some
people use Mikrotik.

If you want training I'd suggest Butch Evans' classes.  I found the basic
class to be very informative even knowing quite a bit of the material.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Paul Gerstenberger wrote:

> Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of
> going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our
> production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little
> official training though.
>
> -Paul
>
>
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[WISPA] Mikrotik User Meeting

[Paul Gerstenberger]

Has anyone attended the MUM's? What were your impressions? I'm thinking of 
going this year, curious what to expect. I've integrated mikrotik into our 
production network and so far it's working well, be nice to have a little 
official training though.

-Paul



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