Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Power is easy, several batteries, 12 volt or 18 volt up converters, POE injectors. Heck, most of the 411R boards now only run 5watts total! --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? This is kind of the direction I've been leaning towards. Do you have any more details on the setup? I am particularly interested in the power! Dennis Burgess wrote: Drop in your own bandwidth, and run off generator of batteries. WE ran an entire festival over a weekend off 4 car batteries, and a 30 foot push up pole :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
If it's a festival, the shop owners benefit from such a thing and there is probably a committee that would do the footwork for you. Talk to the festival committee. Shouldn't take much of anything to do what you're trying to accomplish. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Satellite at 5mbps? Not going to happen. Mobile cards will be quicker but very area dependant. On 4/14/10, Charles Hooper choo...@plumata.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
When you say no coverage, are you meaning there is NO internet access there or that you have no coverage yourself with wireless? If internet is indeed available there via a wire, then the rest is easy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Satellite at 5mbps? Not going to happen. Mobile cards will be quicker but very area dependant. On 4/14/10, Charles Hooper choo...@plumata.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
No coverage myself with wireless, I apologize for the confusion. -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:25am To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? When you say no coverage, are you meaning there is NO internet access there or that you have no coverage yourself with wireless? If internet is indeed available there via a wire, then the rest is easy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Satellite at 5mbps? Not going to happen. Mobile cards will be quicker but very area dependant. On 4/14/10, Charles Hooper choo...@plumata.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Well, for temp access I'm sure some of the businesses have internet, piggy back onto them and set a bandwidth limit so as not to suck them dry. Again, a festival committee could probably line them up for you and they could be added as a sponsor of the free wireless internet. Depending on the size of the festival, you may only need a couple of bullets with an omni on each. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of choo...@plumata.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? No coverage myself with wireless, I apologize for the confusion. -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:25am To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? When you say no coverage, are you meaning there is NO internet access there or that you have no coverage yourself with wireless? If internet is indeed available there via a wire, then the rest is easy. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Satellite at 5mbps? Not going to happen. Mobile cards will be quicker but very area dependant. On 4/14/10, Charles Hooper choo...@plumata.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Drop in your own bandwidth, and run off generator of batteries. WE ran an entire festival over a weekend off 4 car batteries, and a 30 foot push up pole :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
If you are an IKANO reseller you can order a contract-less DSL to a nearby address but I would partner with one or more local businesses to use their Internet. Satellite will work so poorly nobody will use the service and it's rediculously expensive. Set up a SilverLining account and use these: http://www.silverliningnetworks.com/store/. These mesh repeaters are ISP-agnostic allowing you to use any ISP yet run from a single account and they are cheap enough you can springle them around. Alternately you could use any device router capable of supporting OpenWRT flashed with SilverLining's version. With this setup you can provide free ad-supported WiFi and paid ad-free wifi on a temporary basis, show how well it works, and possibly sell some networks to some downtown associations, or Cities. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
This is kind of the direction I've been leaning towards. Do you have any more details on the setup? I am particularly interested in the power! Dennis Burgess wrote: Drop in your own bandwidth, and run off generator of batteries. WE ran an entire festival over a weekend off 4 car batteries, and a 30 foot push up pole :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet?
Is there any reason you recommend SilverLining over similar services such as Open-Mesh? Jerry Richardson wrote: If you are an IKANO reseller you can order a contract-less DSL to a nearby address but I would partner with one or more local businesses to use their Internet. Satellite will work so poorly nobody will use the service and it's rediculously expensive. Set up a SilverLining account and use these: http://www.silverliningnetworks.com/store/. These mesh repeaters are ISP-agnostic allowing you to use any ISP yet run from a single account and they are cheap enough you can springle them around. Alternately you could use any device router capable of supporting OpenWRT flashed with SilverLining's version. With this setup you can provide free ad-supported WiFi and paid ad-free wifi on a temporary basis, show how well it works, and possibly sell some networks to some downtown associations, or Cities. Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mobile or Temporary Internet? Hello, I'm trying to provide wireless Internet to a local festival this summer. My plan is to set up temporary APs as there isn't any coverage in that area already. I don't have any towers in the area (or any at all) so my thoughts are that I would have to talk some local building owners into letting me put some small antennas on their roof. Do you have any tips for negotiating these kinds of deals? Alternatively, I've seen a few people mention using satellite Internet; I'm wondering who you all use? I've been planning on needing 5Mbps connectivity. Are there other alternatives for what I'm trying to do? Thanks in advance, Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
