[WISPA] New link help
I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
What is the distance of the link? What antennas? What wireless cards? Travis Microserv Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
Are you passing traffic over the link yet? CCQ numbers are very inaccurate until traffic is going through. They usually improve. Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: Are you passing traffic over the link yet? CCQ numbers are very inaccurate until traffic is going through. They usually improve. Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
That helps. No, it is not passing traffic. I'll generate some. Thanks. Mike At 12:49 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Are you passing traffic over the link yet? CCQ numbers are very inaccurate until traffic is going through. They usually improve. Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
10.6 miles. 5.8. I'm looking for a -65 dBm Rx on the link. It's about 6 dB off. Fresnel zone is clear p2p. Each can see a flashing beacon on top of the other. What I want to know which one to wag first, or flip a coin? Mike At 12:46 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: What is the distance of the link? What antennas? What wireless cards? Travis Microserv Mike wrote: I just put up a new repeater site today. I am using MT for the P2P. I aligned the dishes by eyeball and a compass bearing, and think I'm close. The signal at both ends is -71 dBm, but am expecting better. I am going to wag one or the other (or both) dishes, but wondered where to start. This list has many answers, so I thought I'd start here. The master side, 165' feet up shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 88 78 and varies from 86/78 to 91/86 The slave end, about 65' on top of a power pole shows Tx/Rx CCQ (%) at 84/90 and the Tx varies from 76 to 86 but usually stays in the mid 80s. Signal to noise is about 47 on both ends. Which dish would you wag first based on these readings? Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
If it's -71 both ways my guess is they're right on. 6db loss is kind of curious though. Does it fluctuate at all? What kind of antennas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: 5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
If that's the case, I would go ahead and do that one first. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New link help 5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
-71 on a 10 Mile link is kind of high for say R52H/23dB antenna...What type of radios are you using? We have one 13 miles that is sitting at -57 with R52N/23dB antennas. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New link help If it's -71 both ways my guess is they're right on. 6db loss is kind of curious though. Does it fluctuate at all? What kind of antennas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: 5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New link help
10.6 miles. 23dBi antennas at both ends. Low power radio. 17 dB or lower. I know one end is out; has to be. I just thought the numbers might be obvious to someone. Mike At 01:29 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: -71 on a 10 Mile link is kind of high for say R52H/23dB antenna...What type of radios are you using? We have one 13 miles that is sitting at -57 with R52N/23dB antennas. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New link help If it's -71 both ways my guess is they're right on. 6db loss is kind of curious though. Does it fluctuate at all? What kind of antennas? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: 5.8. Yes, -71 each way. Most 5.8 noise here is P2P, but is low. Which one shall I wag Josh? I'm thinking the higher side, which is actually easier to access. If I can tweak without a bucket truck I'll save some expense. Mike At 12:51 PM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Ignore noise floor/CCQ on Atheros cards. In every place I have tested, the Atheros card will say -105 to -95 noise floor but the Canopy unit will say -95 to -83. Never seen a higher noise floor then -95 on an Atheros card. Is this 2.4 or 5.8? Are you seeing -71 both ways? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
