Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

2013-07-22 Thread Butch Evans
On 07/20/2013 12:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
 running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
 cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one
 link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

In ospf, the path cost determines where a packet is routed.  Take this 
simple example:


 -- R2 --
 |  |
R1  -  - R4 -Target
 |  |
 -- R3 --

If, on the R1-R2 interface, you add cost and all other settings are 
left at default then the traffic at R1 destined for the networks beyond 
R2/R3 would prefer the path that includes R3, since the cost is higher 
going through R2 interface.  Note that this cost is calculated on the 
OUTGOING interface, so this example assumes you have one interface for 
R2 and one for R3.  Additionally, because the outgoing path is the one 
where cost is calculated, the return traffic would consider both the R2 
and R3 path to be equal.  The essence of path cost is this:
higher cost = less preferred path

To calculate the path cost (from R1), the router would look at the cost 
of the interface: R1-R2, R2-R4 and compare it to R1-R3, R3,R4 path.

Distance is the metric that the kernel uses to determine which learned 
route to use.  You can google the default route distance to see the 
full chart.  Connected routes are distance 0; Static routes default at 
distance 1 and ospf learned routes are distance 110.  What this means is 
that a route learned by ospf will be used ONLY if there is no other 
shorter distance route installed.  In RouterOS, you can change the 
distance for static routes, so that you can use them as backup in case 
OSPF fails.

The OSPF priority parameter is only used to determine which router in a 
segment becomes the DR, BDR or just another router.  You can google 
ospf designated router election to see exactly how this happens.

 I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't
 always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between
 two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it
 as the backup link.

You are probably looking for cost instead of priority.  Just for the 
record, this is one of the things we cover in my classes.  There is one 
lab that we do that covers all of these things in great detail.


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[WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

2013-07-20 Thread Chris Fabien
I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a
heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have
enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static
routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link.

I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link
over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if
it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?

I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always
take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main
towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup
link.

Thanks for any advise!
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

2013-07-20 Thread Josh Luthman
If you set each and every backhaul/link to 10 cost and there are three
backhauls between towers you have 30 cost.  If that last tower has
another option to the first tower with only one link and the cost is
10, it'll use the 10 instead of 30.  If the cheaper 10 is down, it
will use the 30 cost path.

You can set them all to 10 and then if you want a particular path to
be used more, reduce the cost.  Same goes the other way around.

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:
 I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a
 heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have
 enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static
 routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link.

 I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
 running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
 cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link
 over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

 Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if
 it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?

 I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always
 take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main
 towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup
 link.

 Thanks for any advise!


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

2013-07-20 Thread Scott Reed
Cost is what is used for determining routes.  Priority is for who has 
the the more important information. Typically we leave the priority at 
default.

Set the cost on the backup links higher than the cost on the primary links.

On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - 
had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this 
week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy 
but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route 
around the down link.


I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's 
running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign 
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one 
link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.


Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, 
or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?


I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't 
always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between 
two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it 
as the backup link.


Thanks for any advise!



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