[WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum?
Hey List, The local Sprint has bought 1 a local Clearwire-like provider, which owned some 2.5 licenses and had Leases for others. Now Sprint is also in negotiations to buy a local WISP who was Leases more 2.5 licenses (Educational). Basically all 2.5 would be owned or leased by Sprint. Isn't there any FCC regulations that prevents a provider from owning all spectrum in band? I know that limitations exists on Cell bands Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum?
Dang! Time for some 3.65 802.16e gear to hit the market! Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? No such limitations exists in EBS/BRS, likely because no one can own it all though they can CONTROL it all. They can own some, but 60% is EBS and they can only control those through lease from the primary EBS holders. I know even some small guys that control all the spectrum in their markets. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? Hey List, The local Sprint has bought 1 a local Clearwire-like provider, which owned some 2.5 licenses and had Leases for others. Now Sprint is also in negotiations to buy a local WISP who was Leases more 2.5 licenses (Educational). Basically all 2.5 would be owned or leased by Sprint. Isn't there any FCC regulations that prevents a provider from owning all spectrum in band? I know that limitations exists on Cell bands Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php
RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum?
I'm not sure if it's 3.65 or 3.5 Ghz compatible, but WiNetworks has an impressive product line including 802.16e gear. We came across them at WiMax World in Chicago last week. Austin W. PowerCode, Inc. 801-701-6200 ext. 205 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? Dang! Time for some 3.65 802.16e gear to hit the market! Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? No such limitations exists in EBS/BRS, likely because no one can own it all though they can CONTROL it all. They can own some, but 60% is EBS and they can only control those through lease from the primary EBS holders. I know even some small guys that control all the spectrum in their markets. Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? Hey List, The local Sprint has bought 1 a local Clearwire-like provider, which owned some 2.5 licenses and had Leases for others. Now Sprint is also in negotiations to buy a local WISP who was Leases more 2.5 licenses (Educational). Basically all 2.5 would be owned or leased by Sprint. Isn't there any FCC regulations that prevents a provider from owning all spectrum in band? I know that limitations exists on Cell bands Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum?
Gino: No, there's no maximum amount of spectrum that one company can own in 2.5 GHz other than the rules for the commercial portions of the band and the educational parts of the band. Even that partitioning is pretty fluid when the licensees in the educational portion can lease their licenses to commercial entities like Sprint. In fact, it got more concentrated with the merger of SBC and BellSouth; the latter had some 2.5 GHz spectrum which it was required to sell off as part of the merger (BellSouth had a lot more 2.3 GHz spectrum)... and the 2.5 GHz spectrum went to Clearwire. Now Clearwire and Sprint are horse trading to rationalize their respective spectrum holdings in the markets that each has chosen to serve. For example, Sprint is trading its 2.5 GHz spectrum in Seattle to Clearwire, and Clearwire is trading its spectrum in other urban markets to Sprint. Also, there is no longer any limitation on how much cellular spectrum any one company can own. There was such a limitation at one time, but that limitation was gradually phased out. Thanks, Steve On 10/4/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey List, The local Sprint has bought 1 a local Clearwire-like provider, which owned some 2.5 licenses and had Leases for others. Now Sprint is also in negotiations to buy a local WISP who was Leases more 2.5 licenses (Educational). Basically all 2.5 would be owned or leased by Sprint. Isn't there any FCC regulations that prevents a provider from owning all spectrum in band? I know that limitations exists on Cell bands Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Steve Stroh Editor / Analyst, Stroh Publications LLC 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum?
Steve, thanks for this great summary. Too bad we didn't hook up @ Wimax world last week Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Provider hogging all 2.5 Spectrum? Gino: No, there's no maximum amount of spectrum that one company can own in 2.5 GHz other than the rules for the commercial portions of the band and the educational parts of the band. Even that partitioning is pretty fluid when the licensees in the educational portion can lease their licenses to commercial entities like Sprint. In fact, it got more concentrated with the merger of SBC and BellSouth; the latter had some 2.5 GHz spectrum which it was required to sell off as part of the merger (BellSouth had a lot more 2.3 GHz spectrum)... and the 2.5 GHz spectrum went to Clearwire. Now Clearwire and Sprint are horse trading to rationalize their respective spectrum holdings in the markets that each has chosen to serve. For example, Sprint is trading its 2.5 GHz spectrum in Seattle to Clearwire, and Clearwire is trading its spectrum in other urban markets to Sprint. Also, there is no longer any limitation on how much cellular spectrum any one company can own. There was such a limitation at one time, but that limitation was gradually phased out. Thanks, Steve On 10/4/07, Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey List, The local Sprint has bought 1 a local Clearwire-like provider, which owned some 2.5 licenses and had Leases for others. Now Sprint is also in negotiations to buy a local WISP who was Leases more 2.5 licenses (Educational). Basically all 2.5 would be owned or leased by Sprint. Isn't there any FCC regulations that prevents a provider from owning all spectrum in band? I know that limitations exists on Cell bands Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- Steve Stroh Editor / Analyst, Stroh Publications LLC 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
