Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
Like some other people pointed out, a VPS with it's own IP is something like.. $45/ mo. All you have to do is set your email server to forward through a VPS mail server, and setup the reverse DNS for the VPS. Check out linode.com, or any of the other bajillion companies that provide that service. And to hijack this a bit: I've got four domains hosted on a box with one IP - is it even possible to set up a reverse DNS so that one IP will return multiple (or the correct at any given request) domains? I'm having the same problem, with spam filters rejecting some emails, because the reverse DNS for the IP doesn't return the right domain. Or does anyone know of a cheap way to buy extra IP addresses? Cheers, J On 9/4/07, Ryan Langseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you are on their network, I would simply relay the email through their server, the lookup will be sent through for server which should have a proper rDNS, you may need to set an SPF record for the mail server, but that should work ( I have done it like that on a dynamic IP before) On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Jason wrote: I was afraid of that. These satellite guys are kind of like an onion. There are layers and layers where no one is sure who to work with or where to go. The ip address space is owned by a company that is three or four layers up in the reseller chain (I'm told that they own the dish on the other end). Is there no work-around (like the dynamic ip guys or something)? I hate to get that cheesy anyway Can you tell I'm desperate?! Jason Mark Nash wrote: You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http:// www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http:// lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/ Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
And to hijack this a bit: I've got four domains hosted on a box with one IP - is it even possible to set up a reverse DNS so that one IP will return multiple (or the correct at any given request) domains? No. However, remember that MX and SMTP don't have to actually have anything relating to the domain involved. So, give the box the name hosting.nolimyn.com or something similar, setup the RDNS for the IP address for hosting.nolimyn.com. Then, on your other domains, set smtp.domainx.com as a cname for hosting.nolimyn.com and set the mx record for domainx.com to hosting.nolimyn.com. I'm having the same problem, with spam filters rejecting some emails, because the reverse DNS for the IP doesn't return the right domain. Or does anyone know of a cheap way to buy extra IP addresses? That is generally up to your hosting/network provider...However, I can provide you some extra IP addresses for fairly cheap; contact me off list if interested. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies Cheers, J On 9/4/07, Ryan Langseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you are on their network, I would simply relay the email through their server, the lookup will be sent through for server which should have a proper rDNS, you may need to set an SPF record for the mail server, but that should work ( I have done it like that on a dynamic IP before) On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Jason wrote: I was afraid of that. These satellite guys are kind of like an onion. There are layers and layers where no one is sure who to work with or where to go. The ip address space is owned by a company that is three or four layers up in the reseller chain (I'm told that they own the dish on the other end). Is there no work-around (like the dynamic ip guys or something)? I hate to get that cheesy anyway Can you tell I'm desperate?! Jason Mark Nash wrote: You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http:// www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http:// lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/ Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- -- -- ** Join us
[WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
A quicker workaround than convincing your IP provider to set the reverse for you would be to use a remotely dedicated or co-located server (or even a cheaper virtual server) to bounce all of your outgoing and incoming mail through. That way you could set up something like mta.yourdomain.com forward and reverse, which all mail will pass through both incoming and out to make the overzealous spam filters pass the mail. Graham On 9/4/07, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
To see who is authoritative for the address space, run a whois on the addresses in question... If they can't/won't help you (which, given the non-standard connection you seem to be using, is a real possibility), then you're best off running email and such services either on a colocated basis or an outsourced basis. -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On 9/4/07, Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
Jason wrote: Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). The best way would be to get your upstream to change their reverse DNS. (They're the only ones who can do it.) Failing that, get someone, somewhere else, to handle email for you; tell your local mail server to use this mythical other mail server as a smarthost, who can make that change. If your users don't send out that much email, this should be fairly cheap (on the order of ten or twenty bucks a month). David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
I was afraid of that. These satellite guys are kind of like an onion. There are layers and layers where no one is sure who to work with or where to go. The ip address space is "owned" by a company that is three or four layers up in the reseller chain (I'm told that they own the dish on the other end). Is there no work-around (like the dynamic ip guys or something)? I hate to get that cheesy anyway Can you tell I'm desperate?! Jason Mark Nash wrote: You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: "Jason" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
Jason wrote: The ip address space is owned by a company that is three or four layers up in the reseller chain (I'm told that they own the dish on the other end). Unless they've properly delegated reverse DNS (and it sounds like they haven't) you'll either have to work your way up the chain, or get someone else to shuffle your outgoing email. Is there no work-around (like the dynamic ip guys or something)? I hate to get that cheesy anyway Sadly, that's just not how it works. Forward DNS and reverse DNS are conceptually the same, and from a technical standpoint just about the same, but from a managerial perspective (zone roots and who gets what parts sub-delegated) they're two different monsters entirely. David Smith MVN.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles
Since you are on their network, I would simply relay the email through their server, the lookup will be sent through for server which should have a proper rDNS, you may need to set an SPF record for the mail server, but that should work ( I have done it like that on a dynamic IP before) On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Jason wrote: I was afraid of that. These satellite guys are kind of like an onion. There are layers and layers where no one is sure who to work with or where to go. The ip address space is owned by a company that is three or four layers up in the reseller chain (I'm told that they own the dish on the other end). Is there no work-around (like the dynamic ip guys or something)? I hate to get that cheesy anyway Can you tell I'm desperate?! Jason Mark Nash wrote: You must deal with whoever is authoritative in that address space, probably your immediate upstream provider. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http:// www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Reverse DNS troubles Gang, I have started having trouble with my customers email getting bounced because other servers are checking the reverse dns, which fails to resolve to my domain because my network is served by a satellite connection (I'm the epitome of rural). Does anyone know of a work-around, or do I have to convince my upstream they need to change it to resolve to my domain (which may be hard to get to happen.). If I have to work with my upstream, how should I go about this / approach it. FYI, they are ses-americom.com. The company I purchased the domain through and who handles the regular dns lookup (domain to ip) says they can not help me because the IP is not in their IP address space. Jason -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http:// lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/ Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- -- -- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// www.ispcon.com/register.php ** -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php
