Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Chris Fabien
You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your details
on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold, modulation
of customers etc?
On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through
 our core even right now (peak time, 9pm).

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...
 On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

  My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per
 second).

  Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in
 quantity...

  So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

 How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

   Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will
 have to describe your network a bit

  Bridged ? Routed ?
 What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

  How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

  I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are
 describing..

  :)

  Regards.


  Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 305%20663%205518%20x%20232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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 *From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

  Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few
 of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

  What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

  Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

  Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected
 to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he
 tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would
 not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has
 19 subs.

  Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring
 the through put down to 500K?

  We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

  Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

  --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's not entirely true I don't believe, often radio issues will show 
up as SoftIRQ, not actual CPU usage.


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
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On 04/17/2014 03:26 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:


You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your 
details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds 
sold, modulation of customers etc?


On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:


PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going
through our core even right now (peak time, 9pm).

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com |
www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com

On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:


Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...

On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
fai...@snappytelecom.net mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets
per second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number
in quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.
How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that..
you will have to describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are
describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have
quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and
KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds
at night when they call into after hours support. We come
in the next day and run speed tests to the radios and
they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his
home connected to one of those APs during the day and he
got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix -
biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is
connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an
AP will bring the through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a
given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is
if that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

-- 
Arthur Stephens

Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837 tel:509-927-7837
ptera.com http://ptera.com
facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc |
twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Clay Stewart
Need to know - Freq, and CW?


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
 one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
 to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
 start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
 through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Art Stephens
Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet
doing the shaping.
Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet.
Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links

Hope that helps


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.netwrote:

 My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

 Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

 So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

 How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

  Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have
 to describe your network a bit

 Bridged ? Routed ?
 What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

 How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

 I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

 :)

 Regards.


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
 one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
 to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
 start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
 through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Art Stephens
I have not tried the TOP yet during peak times. Our packages are 5, 7 and
10 Meg. I am not sure what you mean by modulation of customers.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 You cam ssh in and run top to see if its cpu limited. What are your
 details on the APs giving trouble? Max throughput it sees, speeds sold,
 modulation of customers etc?
 On Apr 17, 2014 1:20 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through
 our core even right now (peak time, 9pm).

  *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
   On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...
 On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
 wrote:

  My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per
 second).

  Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in
 quantity...

  So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

 How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

   Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will
 have to describe your network a bit

  Bridged ? Routed ?
 What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

  How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

  I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are
 describing..

  :)

  Regards.


  Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 305%20663%205518%20x%20232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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 *From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

  Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few
 of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

  What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night
 when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run
 speed tests to the radios and they look ok.

  Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

  Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected
 to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he
 tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would
 not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has
 19 subs.

  Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring
 the through put down to 500K?

  We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

  Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

  --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Art Stephens
5gig 20Mhz


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Need to know - Freq, and CW?


 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
 one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
 to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
 start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
 through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Chris Fabien
Can u send a screenshot of the station list on one of the struggling APs?
On Apr 17, 2014 11:11 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 5gig 20Mhz


 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart 
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Need to know - Freq, and CW?


 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.comwrote:

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected
 to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he
 tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would
 not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has
 19 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring
 the through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
 Liberty Lake, WA 99019
 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

  
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Steve Barnes
Call Procera and tell them you are having bottlenecks. Is not this the very 
thing they are supposed to not allow.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Art Stephens
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing 
the shaping.
Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet.
Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links

Hope that helps

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
fai...@snappytelecom.netmailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:
My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.netmailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.commailto:asteph...@ptera.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these 
in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-17 Thread Clay Stewart
My guess would be the total bandwidth you are trying to put through the
AP what are the average plan speeds going through? If you were running
an average CPE at 5-6Mbps then 30 or so CPEs should not be too much of
an issue, but if the average is higher or the average of customers
streaming video or gaming is 'above norm'... then that would certainly
start causing an overload situation and may require adding more APs. I
think you need to get a handle on details... what is the bandwidth usage at
each CPE from 3 to 9PM... looking for a crash point at the AP... looking at
the total load growth in that period.

Or it could be as simple as one CPE has not been controlled, which happens
to be a rogue high user... I had one few months ago... was running Chat
Servers on a public IP which a tech forgot to bandwidth control!


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote:

 5gig 20Mhz


 On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Clay Stewart 
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Need to know - Freq, and CW?


 On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.comwrote:

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected
 to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he
 tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would
 not start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has
 19 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring
 the through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

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[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Art Stephens
Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
tests to the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need
to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

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Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
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Liberty Lake, WA 99019
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second). 

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity... 

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts. 
How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ? 

Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit 

Bridged ? Routed ? 
What is doing Traffic Shaping ? 

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc. 

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing.. 

:) 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

 From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they
 call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests
 to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one
 of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to
 watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start.
 He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
 through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need
 to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
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 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

i am interested in this as well - in canopy, there is an overload counter and 
some other things we can look at
not sure what to look at from a ubnt standpoint - although i know with 5.6 beta 
there are more snmp things
you can monitor (as in - SOME snmp readable items at all)

we have an access point with 19 on it currentlyi don't think we have any 
with more than 19

  - Original Message - 
  From: Faisal Imtiaz 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put


  My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).


  Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...


  So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

  How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?


   Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit


  Bridged ? Routed ?  
  What is doing Traffic Shaping ?


  How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.


  I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..


  :)


  Regards.




  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet  Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232



  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 




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Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put



Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of 
these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. 


What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when 
they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests 
to the radios and they look ok.


Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.


Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to 
one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to 
watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He 
ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. 


Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?


We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need 
to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. 


Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.


-- 

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Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
509-927-7837 

ptera.com
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I wish radios had a metric like duty cycle. It would tell you what percent of 
the time the radio is busy, regardless of underlying causes (throughput, 
interference, etc.) 




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- Original Message -

From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:50:07 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put 


Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these 
in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. 


What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok. 


Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs. 


Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. 


Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K? 


We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to 
figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. 


Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this. 


-- 

Arthur Stephens 
Senior Networking Technician 
Ptera Inc. 
PO Box 135 
24001 E Mission Suite 50 
Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
509-927-7837 

ptera.com 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Mike Lyon
Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...
On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:

 My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

 Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

 So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

 How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

  Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have
 to describe your network a bit

 Bridged ? Routed ?
 What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

 How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

 I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

 :)

 Regards.


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

 Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
 these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

 What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
 they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
 tests to the radios and they look ok.

 Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

 Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
 one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
 to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
 start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
 subs.

 Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
 through put down to 500K?

 We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
 need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

 Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

 --
 Arthur Stephens
 Senior Networking Technician
 Ptera Inc.
 PO Box 135
 24001 E Mission Suite 50
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 509-927-7837
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

would be nice to do a spin cyclea rinseand dry.
maybe i should be doing laundry...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Hammett 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put


  I wish radios had a metric like duty cycle. It would tell you what percent of 
the time the radio is busy, regardless of underlying causes (throughput, 
interference, etc.)




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  From: Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:50:07 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put


  Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of 
these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors. 


  What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok.


  Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.


  Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs. 


  Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?


  We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need 
to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense. 


  Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.


  -- 

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  Senior Networking Technician
  Ptera Inc.
  PO Box 135
  24001 E Mission Suite 50
  Liberty Lake, WA 99019 
  509-927-7837 

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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
about 20k pps. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet  Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 12:03:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

 Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...
 On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  fai...@snappytelecom.net  wrote:

  My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).
 

  Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...
 

  So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.
 
  How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?
 

  Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to
  describe your network a bit
 

  Bridged ? Routed ?
 
  What is doing Traffic Shaping ?
 

  How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.
 

  I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..
 

  :)
 

  Regards.
 

  Faisal Imtiaz
 
  Snappy Internet  Telecom
 
  7266 SW 48 Street
 
  Miami, FL 33155
 
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
 

   From: Art Stephens  asteph...@ptera.com 
  
 
   To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org 
  
 
   Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
  
 
   Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put
  
 

   Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
   these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.
  
 

   What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
   they
   call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
   tests
   to the radios and they look ok.
  
 

   Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.
  
 

   Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
   one
   of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to
   watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
   start.
   He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.
  
 

   Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
   through put down to 500K?
  
 

   We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
   need
   to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.
  
 

   Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.
  
 

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   Senior Networking Technician
  
 
   Ptera Inc.
  
 
   PO Box 135
  
 
   24001 E Mission Suite 50
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
We have TONS of subs on a bridged (but vlan'd) network, over multiple 
multiple multiple hops. We don't have PPS issues. Know why? We block 
torrents.


Want to torrent on our network? setup a vpn outside of it.

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 04/16/2014 07:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.
How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will 
have to describe your network a bit


Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a
few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night
when they call into after hours support. We come in the next day
and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home
connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then
that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from
most subs - and it would not start. He ran a speed test and got
500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will
bring the through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP
but need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any
sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

-- 
Arthur Stephens

Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837
ptera.com http://ptera.com
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Josh Reynolds

25Kpps

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:


Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...

On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:


My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per
second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in
quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.
How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you
will have to describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are
describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have
quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and
KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at
night when they call into after hours support. We come in the
next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home
connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M.
Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest
complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP
will bring the through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a
given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if
that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

-- 
Arthur Stephens

Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837 tel:509-927-7837
ptera.com http://ptera.com
facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc |
twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera
 
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

2014-04-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
PS, We have ~ 1400 subs and don't see but around 36Kpps going through 
our core even right now (peak time, 9pm).


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 04/16/2014 08:03 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:


Whats the magic PPS number for the Rockets? I forget...

On Apr 16, 2014 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote:


My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per
second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in
quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.
How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you
will have to describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are
describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 tel:%28305%29663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com
mailto:asteph...@ptera.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
*Subject: *[WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have
quite a few of these in the field with UBNT Sectors and
KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at
night when they call into after hours support. We come in the
next day and run speed tests to the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home
connected to one of those APs during the day and he got 15M.
Then that evening he tried to watch Netflix - biggest
complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP
will bring the through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a
given AP but need to figure where the breaking point is if
that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

-- 
Arthur Stephens

Senior Networking Technician
Ptera Inc.
PO Box 135
24001 E Mission Suite 50
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
509-927-7837 tel:509-927-7837
ptera.com http://ptera.com
facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc |
twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera
 
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