Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
On the 3rd unit myself in about as many years. Don't know many Xbox users that not lost one due to the so called ring of death. The ones that haven't bought the fan kit right of the bat. The only good thing for myself is that each unit been a slight upgrade from the last one at the same or close to the same price and since I bought the extended warranty really haven't lost much money. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:02:47 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I spoke with a doctor last week who's son has gone through 4 in the last year. May be just that one case, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 years or so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues On the 3rd unit myself in about as many years. Don't know many Xbox users that not lost one due to the so called ring of death. The ones that haven't bought the fan kit right of the bat. The only good thing for myself is that each unit been a slight upgrade from the last one at the same or close to the same price and since I bought the extended warranty really haven't lost much money. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:02:47 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I spoke with a doctor last week who's son has gone through 4 in the last year. May be just that one case, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 years or so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
The warranty typically replaces the rrod boxes from what I hear. On 12/4/08, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
My Radio shack has these fans on clearance ($12) now for some reason. I bought one for my wife's Christmas present (XBox). Shhh, dont tell her :) -RickG On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:48 AM, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
I understand the warranty was only 90 days but they have extended it to 1 year now. Of course, my luck it would fail after 366 days! -RickG On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The warranty typically replaces the rrod boxes from what I hear. On 12/4/08, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
I'm not sure if it was only for a specific series, but Microsoft was extending warranties to like 3 years in preparation for the Halo 3 launch. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:12 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues I understand the warranty was only 90 days but they have extended it to 1 year now. Of course, my luck it would fail after 366 days! -RickG On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The warranty typically replaces the rrod boxes from what I hear. On 12/4/08, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
Microsoft gets slammed a lot but my communication with them in regards to my xbox and service has been pretty good. I paid for a year of live service in January and lost my xbox in a car fire (iam8up.com/fiya) in February. They refunded the full amount. On 12/4/08, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the warranty was only 90 days but they have extended it to 1 year now. Of course, my luck it would fail after 366 days! -RickG On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The warranty typically replaces the rrod boxes from what I hear. On 12/4/08, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues
So does that constitute a heat problem :-) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Xbox 360 issues Microsoft gets slammed a lot but my communication with them in regards to my xbox and service has been pretty good. I paid for a year of live service in January and lost my xbox in a car fire (iam8up.com/fiya) in February. They refunded the full amount. On 12/4/08, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the warranty was only 90 days but they have extended it to 1 year now. Of course, my luck it would fail after 366 days! -RickG On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The warranty typically replaces the rrod boxes from what I hear. On 12/4/08, jeremyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck. I know problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the original)... and a few bought them on the day of release. Most of the problems are heat related. The xbox's graphic chipset can get so hot that it starts to heat the solder back up and when it cools it cracks. It is called the (RRoD) red ring of death as indicted by the red ring around the power button. Just in case anyone has an xbox 360 or has a son/daughter that does, you can simply add 2 normal case fans to the box of the 360 and it will pretty much take care of the problem. There are videos on utube that can show you how to do it. It is a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 device. Sincerely, Jeremy Davis, CEO Maximum Technologies, LLC Office 318.303.4725 www.maximumtech.us -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? Are all your custommers NAT'd or do you assign them public IP's? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
My NAT customers work behind their own routers on the 360 and PS3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? Are all your custommers NAT'd or do you assign them public IP's? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 years or so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
I spoke with a doctor last week who's son has gone through 4 in the last year. May be just that one case, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 years or so. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on the Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a lot of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UDP 88 UDP and TCP 3074 those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox 360. 360 will need a static IP. we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to 192.168.200.50/24 net = wpci1 client = ether1 forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on the client's NATing routers. I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are... ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp is a huge security whole I'm told. What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway? Is there something I should be trying on the routers? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am
[WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Can you see it from there? ducking :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
I believe the Tuesday before or a week before that they launched a bew firmware for the console (100 megs or more IIRC) which could be related, but my stance has always faulted with lousy servers. It explains how it goes good and bad from game to game all day every day. On 12/2/08, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you see it from there? ducking :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
The update was released on the 19th and requires 128 MB of storage space. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I believe the Tuesday before or a week before that they launched a bew firmware for the console (100 megs or more IIRC) which could be related, but my stance has always faulted with lousy servers. It explains how it goes good and bad from game to game all day every day. On 12/2/08, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you see it from there? ducking :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
I know Halo 2 and 3 does use the peers as gaming hosts. Can't say for other games. To my knowledge Halo is the dominate Xbox game. On 12/2/08, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
*nods* The Halo and Call of Duty series operate that way. I haven't played many other games online. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I know Halo 2 and 3 does use the peers as gaming hosts. Can't say for other games. To my knowledge Halo is the dominate Xbox game. On 12/2/08, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: *nods* The Halo and Call of Duty series operate that way. I haven't played many other games online. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I know Halo 2 and 3 does use the peers as gaming hosts. Can't say for other games. To my knowledge Halo is the dominate Xbox game. On 12/2/08, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
The few games I play I always hear everyone or no one lagging. Of course everyone says they're lagging when they're losing, so... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
...bew firmware for the console (100 megs or more IIRC) What's that if you do not mind me asking? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:25:09 -0500 I believe the Tuesday before or a week before that they launched a bew firmware for the console (100 megs or more IIRC) which could be related, but my stance has always faulted with lousy servers. It explains how it goes good and bad from game to game all day every day. On 12/2/08, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you see it from there? ducking :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
So, if the host of the game is on a bad connection that would screw up everyone? I've got people with 8 and 9 meg connections having trouble. Found out about a play station customer that's having some trouble too. I think that there must be something on our network(s) that is at least adding to the problem. I just can't figure out what to test for. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues *nods* The Halo and Call of Duty series operate that way. I haven't played many other games online. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I know Halo 2 and 3 does use the peers as gaming hosts. Can't say for other games. To my knowledge Halo is the dominate Xbox game. On 12/2/08, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Indeed. If someone's connection is crap and they're the host, everyone else's will be crap as well for the duration of that game. Previously an upstream of mine had a bad router that would decide on its own what traffic it would or would not pass without issue. The issue was most noticeable on World of Warcraft, but downloads from various companies didn't work either. All I could do was to have someone play that game at a hop and see if it worked or not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:45 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues So, if the host of the game is on a bad connection that would screw up everyone? I've got people with 8 and 9 meg connections having trouble. Found out about a play station customer that's having some trouble too. I think that there must be something on our network(s) that is at least adding to the problem. I just can't figure out what to test for. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues *nods* The Halo and Call of Duty series operate that way. I haven't played many other games online. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I know Halo 2 and 3 does use the peers as gaming hosts. Can't say for other games. To my knowledge Halo is the dominate Xbox game. On 12/2/08, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems with PC games? I believe the vast majority, if not all XBox games are hosted by the users in the game instead of a central server (as mentioned earlier). It's entirely dependant on how good or bad everyone's connection is. Could be your connection quality back to MS central. Speed isn't the only indicator of connection quality. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:25 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues We've seen trouble for months out here. Even with customers on connections that run 1 to 2 megs. Heck, I've got customers that pull 8 megs both ways that are having trouble with xbox 360 games. - Original Message - From: Wes James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Xbox live service has been up and down since Black Friday. It is possible that the host machine is also causing problems, but my guess is that the million new subscribers over the weekend gave the service a pounding. See if they are still having the issues today, as it seems things have smoothed out a bit. -Wes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Hey now Nowhere, ID is really close to me Josh Luthman wrote: The games on those consoles are hosted (network wise) by other players. The server for a 16 player game could very well be a person in Nowhere, ID with a 1/384 DSL connection. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I've had calls from a number of xbox 360 customers that are having trouble with game play etc. Very long lags, poor pings etc. These calls are coming from customers off of multiple towers and even in different towns. No calls coming from Wii or playstation. Just xbox 360. Anyone else seeing these issues in the last few months? thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
The inability for the 50 dollar router to do the NAT would be the only thing I could imagine. On 12/2/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
yeppers. MT all the way! :) Works great! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Mike Hammett wrote: If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
I believe what Dennis is saying is MT CPEs are EXCELLENT :) Arc are my favorite enclosures but Roottennas are good too, just short on looks. On 12/2/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeppers. MT all the way! :) Works great! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Mike Hammett wrote: If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
Maybe the RooTennas have personality. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues I believe what Dennis is saying is MT CPEs are EXCELLENT :) Arc are my favorite enclosures but Roottennas are good too, just short on looks. On 12/2/08, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeppers. MT all the way! :) Works great! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* Mike Hammett wrote: If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox requests the port forwarding from the router without manual intervention. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues upnp? We ALWAYS turn that off. What do you do with it? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port forwarded to the box to work. If they have more than one console inside... I dunno what to do about that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues What setting would that be? I've never changed the NAT settings in a router that I set up for a customer. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Indeed. Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have the best pick of people to connect with. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games have dominated the market for a while. Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games. I am confident Halo and Call of Duty have the majority of games. I can't verify that Call of Duty does games p2p versus client-server, though. One player in the match will be selected as the server based on the quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5. Its too bad they did not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games. I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given match have a crappy connection its the server. If its just them then it 'might' be a problem with there connection. I have seen a number of users with NAT issues on there router though. Also, many times they connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and that connection goes crappy. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
