Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
It is FCC approved insofar as the technical standards. Legality of use belongs with the end user - and the FCC has clearly stated that the cell phone repeaters must be coordinated with the carriers whose signals are being repeated, otherwise their use is illegal. An example of the FCC approval, I believe it was midland that was recently taken to fine because of scrambling on some GMRS/FRS radios. Illegal, and midland never argued that point. Those radios met the fcc approval for two way radios. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: "Bret Clark" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps > If you are using a repeater that is FCC approved then I don't see why the > FCC would get involved...Cell phone repeaters are legal to use > > Scottie Arnett wrote: > I maybe late to chime in, but when I asked about something similar, I > heard a resounding problem with not communicating with the cell provider > beforehand. It seems that if you put a high-end(not a small one like you > and I have) repeater in before talking to the cell provider, you MAY be > talking to the FCC. > > Scottie > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
-- Original Message -- From: Bret Clark Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:43:25 -0400 I understand. Just repeating what was told to me. I was working with a Wilson sales person to repeat cell service to a boat dock, and this was what I heard from the list. Something about spurious emissions on the cell bands from these amps and men in black helicopters. I use a Wilson 3 watt amp on my cell and the only helicopter I see are the ones looking for mary jane grower's in my area. Scott Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
If you are using a repeater that is FCC approved then I don't see why the FCC would get involved...Cell phone repeaters are legal to use Scottie Arnett wrote: I maybe late to chime in, but when I asked about something similar, I heard a resounding problem with not communicating with the cell provider beforehand. It seems that if you put a high-end(not a small one like you and I have) repeater in before talking to the cell provider, you MAY be talking to the FCC. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: jp Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:39:39 -0400 I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of construction. Has anyone does a project like this? -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
I maybe late to chime in, but when I asked about something similar, I heard a resounding problem with not communicating with the cell provider beforehand. It seems that if you put a high-end(not a small one like you and I have) repeater in before talking to the cell provider, you MAY be talking to the FCC. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: jp Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:39:39 -0400 >I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring >cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > >Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our >customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf >unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). >It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the >indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, >and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > >Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between >systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor >antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to >provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of >construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > >-- >/* >Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL >KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ >*/ > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
Sometimes, you can contact the carriers and they will install repeaters for their clients. John jp wrote: > I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring > cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > > Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our > customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf > unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). > It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the > indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, > and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > > Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between > systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor > antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to > provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of > construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
My little home one gives me about a 30' range of boosted signal, but I'm in a spot with a very weak cell signal even on the roof, and mine is hooked up with 50' of 50ohm lmr400 instead of 75 ohm cable like specified, as I already had it running between my roof and basement and it took 2 minutes to reuse it. The proposed system would be for multiple carriers. The roof has clear LOS to the cell tower about 2 miles away. The building has two levels with an RF-proof floor. The inside range would be ideally 100+' radius. I will give tessco a call sometime. It looks like a very important business line to them. On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 03:05:20PM -0500, Matt Musial wrote: > Jason, > BDA (Bi-Directional Amplifier) and DAS (Distributed Antenna System) systems > for "In Building" applications- are more reliable and "carrier class" than > Wilson, etc... Expensive though. > > What range does your Femtocell give you?] > > One thing they all have in common is they require a good clean originating > signal from a near-by cell site. Otherwise, they amplify the noise as well. > > Two questions: What is the maximum range of your Femtocell? Do they need a > boost for one carrier or multiple? > > Matt > Radwin USA > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:23 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps > > I agree. Call the main number and tell sales you need a cell phone > repeater. The next guy you talk to should know exactly what you need after > he understands what you have. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > > > Tessco should be able to engineer a solution for you. > > > > On 10/26/09, jp wrote: > > > I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring > > > cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > > > > > > Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our > > > customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf > > > unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). > > > It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the > > > indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, > > > and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > > > > > > Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between > > > systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor > > > antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to > > > provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of > > > construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > /* > > > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL > > > KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > > > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > -
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
Jason, BDA (Bi-Directional Amplifier) and DAS (Distributed Antenna System) systems for "In Building" applications- are more reliable and "carrier class" than Wilson, etc... Expensive though. What range does your Femtocell give you?] One thing they all have in common is they require a good clean originating signal from a near-by cell site. Otherwise, they amplify the noise as well. Two questions: What is the maximum range of your Femtocell? Do they need a boost for one carrier or multiple? Matt Radwin USA -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps I agree. Call the main number and tell sales you need a cell phone repeater. The next guy you talk to should know exactly what you need after he understands what you have. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > Tessco should be able to engineer a solution for you. > > On 10/26/09, jp wrote: > > I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring > > cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > > > > Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our > > customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf > > unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). > > It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the > > indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, > > and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > > > > Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between > > systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor > > antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to > > provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of > > construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > > > > > -- > > /* > > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL > > KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > > */ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
I agree. Call the main number and tell sales you need a cell phone repeater. The next guy you talk to should know exactly what you need after he understands what you have. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote: > Tessco should be able to engineer a solution for you. > > On 10/26/09, jp wrote: > > I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring > > cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > > > > Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our > > customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf > > unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). > > It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the > > indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, > > and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > > > > Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between > > systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor > > antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to > > provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of > > construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > > > > > -- > > /* > > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL > > KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > > */ > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
Tessco should be able to engineer a solution for you. On 10/26/09, jp wrote: > I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring > cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. > > Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our > customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf > unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). > It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the > indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, > and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. > > Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between > systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor > antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to > provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of > construction. Has anyone does a project like this? > > > -- > /* > Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL > KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting > http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ > */ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] cellular repeater/bidirectional amps
I've got a wi-ex zboost yx500-cel at home and it works great to bring cellular into my home which is otherwise a dead-zone. Now, since we're the local gurus of all thing wireless, one of our customers is wanting something comparable for a larger area in an rf unfriendly building (large metal building with various metal additions). It may be necessary to have multiple cellular boosters to provide the indoor coverage they need. I'm studying the various brands at Tessco, and they include the wi-ex series, Wilson, and Digital Antenna Inc. Seems these are amps, do I need to be concerned about feedback between systems if these are within earshot of each other? I know the outdoor antenna has to be sufficiently isolated from the indoor antenna to provide the gain, which shouldn't be a problem based on the type of construction. Has anyone does a project like this? -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
