Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
What other industry would be so introspective and careful?If this were (insert name of politician, CEO, or detested talking head here), he/she/they would be shouting it from the rooftops as fact and declaring themselves some kind of winner. However, I know just what you mean... I have long ago lost track of the number of people I've talked to who do exactly this... "My internet is wireless" and it turns out to be just dsl w/wireless router. However, it can't be ALL of the respondents. Even if 3/4 are confused, the size of the wireless provider industry is still larger than we're imagining it. "many hands, make light work" -- From: "Bret Clark" Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:40 AM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out > On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 13:21 -0600, David E. Smith wrote: > > >> >> For all we know, most of these folks think that since cousin Jed fixed >> 'em >> up a wireless router, that's "fixed wireless." >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net > > > Yup...can't even begin to tell you that when I worked at a CLEC how > many customers thought they had a wireless Internet connection because > we'd provide them a wi-fi Linksys CPE. I'd tell them they have a DSL > connection and they would say something to the effect "yes and the > wireless DSL is not working". It's not much different then when you > tell someone on cable they have a copper Internet connection and > inevitably they will argue with you that they don't get their Internet > on copper, they get it through their cable company...can't tell you home > many times I've gotten that argument :)! > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
Or how many people think they have "fiber" access to the Internet because they have cable. We all know the cable companies upgraded their networks to fiber a few years ago, right? Chuck On Feb 24, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Bret Clark wrote: > On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 13:21 -0600, David E. Smith wrote: > > >> >> For all we know, most of these folks think that since cousin Jed fixed 'em >> up a wireless router, that's "fixed wireless." >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net > > > Yup...can't even begin to tell you that when I worked at a CLEC how > many customers thought they had a wireless Internet connection because > we'd provide them a wi-fi Linksys CPE. I'd tell them they have a DSL > connection and they would say something to the effect "yes and the > wireless DSL is not working". It's not much different then when you > tell someone on cable they have a copper Internet connection and > inevitably they will argue with you that they don't get their Internet > on copper, they get it through their cable company...can't tell you home > many times I've gotten that argument :)! > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 "When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee?" >From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 13:21 -0600, David E. Smith wrote: > > For all we know, most of these folks think that since cousin Jed fixed 'em > up a wireless router, that's "fixed wireless." > > David Smith > MVN.net Yup...can't even begin to tell you that when I worked at a CLEC how many customers thought they had a wireless Internet connection because we'd provide them a wi-fi Linksys CPE. I'd tell them they have a DSL connection and they would say something to the effect "yes and the wireless DSL is not working". It's not much different then when you tell someone on cable they have a copper Internet connection and inevitably they will argue with you that they don't get their Internet on copper, they get it through their cable company...can't tell you home many times I've gotten that argument :)! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:56, Patrick Leary wrote: > 29% from fixed wireless. Well, that sure reveals the disconnect between > the output data re form 477 filings, though I am much more inclined to > weight the end customer surveys than 477 filing numbers (which we all > know are way under reported). I find that number VERY dubious, because of things like this (from that report, page 14): It is likely that a significant number of consumers do not know the details of their home Internet connections. Some, for instance, may confuse a wireless home network working off wireline broadband with a “fixed wireless provider.” Given the opportunity to pick more than one category, in conjunction with uncertainty over how they connect to the internet at home, some respondents inaccurately chose more than one category of connection type. For all we know, most of these folks think that since cousin Jed fixed 'em up a wireless router, that's "fixed wireless." David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
You beat me to it. LOL http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2360263,00.asp Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com On Feb 23, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296442A1.pdf > > * 35% percent of americans unserved > > * "We need to tackle the challenge of connecting 93 million Americans to our > broadband future," said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski in a statement timed > with the release of the survey. "In the 21st century, a digital divide is an > opportunity divide." > > * 29% stated they received service from a fixed wireless provider > > ** Notwithstanding the possible confusion reflected in the survey responses, > it seems likely that the vast majority of home broadband access is wireline. > In fact, estimates place wireless home broadband access at 2 percent of > homes—that would include fixed wireless or satellite service. > > -Matt > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] new FCC report out
29% from fixed wireless. Well, that sure reveals the disconnect between the output data re form 477 filings, though I am much more inclined to weight the end customer surveys than 477 filing numbers (which we all know are way under reported). Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:38 AM To: WISPA List General Subject: [WISPA] new FCC report out http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296442A1.pdf * 35% percent of americans unserved * "We need to tackle the challenge of connecting 93 million Americans to our broadband future," said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski in a statement timed with the release of the survey. "In the 21st century, a digital divide is an opportunity divide." * 29% stated they received service from a fixed wireless provider ** Notwithstanding the possible confusion reflected in the survey responses, it seems likely that the vast majority of home broadband access is wireline. In fact, estimates place wireless home broadband access at 2 percent of homes-that would include fixed wireless or satellite service. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] new FCC report out
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-296442A1.pdf * 35% percent of americans unserved * "We need to tackle the challenge of connecting 93 million Americans to our broadband future," said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski in a statement timed with the release of the survey. "In the 21st century, a digital divide is an opportunity divide." * 29% stated they received service from a fixed wireless provider ** Notwithstanding the possible confusion reflected in the survey responses, it seems likely that the vast majority of home broadband access is wireline. In fact, estimates place wireless home broadband access at 2 percent of homes—that would include fixed wireless or satellite service. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
