Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Hi Mike!!! I'm glad to see you made it onto the list. For those that don't know him, Mike is the owner of Electro-comm. Sharp guy and has a LOT of industry contacts. Help me beat up on him and get him to officially sign EC up! grin laters, Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mike Brownson To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? We've got a few customers that are mainly fiber carriers and use wireless to extend off that. The fiber business is a whole differnet animal. It can be good, but requires that you really understand what business you're getting into. Especially if you are leasing capacity to other carriers, the audit requirements can get fairly hefty. Most of the fiber folks I know of use the fiber as the primary backhaul for their wireless system and for direct drops into the biggest customers. In one example a school disctict actaully paid for the installation of the fiber to hit all their schools (over 100 miles) but the WISP still owned it and was able to add additional strands for a little extra $. But the school ended picking up 90%+ of the total cost. Now that makes the ROI look much better.Mike BJohn J. Thomas wrote: Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an affordable use of them. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com Interested in Metro WiFi? We have solutions Coming soon from Tranzeo, 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Oops, forgot the link http://www.patton.com/products/pe_products.asp?category=162&tab=fb&MiDAS_SessionID=c71906728f2547be800411b59ae3244a John >-Original Message- >From: John J. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 07:39 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? > > >2 Netgear FSM726 ~ $200 = $ 400 >2 Netgear AGM721F ~ $285 = $ 570 >2 500 Meter SC SC patch cables ~ 779 = $1558 >+ conduit, trench etc. > >is one way to go. > >Antoher is ethernet extenders. These will let you go 4000 feet at 16.67 >Megabits per sec over voice grade twisted pair for about $600 per set. > >John > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 09:19 AM >>To: 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >> >>I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked >>about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over >>standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something >>simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. >> >>Sam Tetherow >>Sandhills Wireless >> >>John J. Thomas wrote: >> >>>Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more >>>between repeaters. >>> >>>John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>-Original Message- >>>>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM >>>>To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>>> >>>>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were >>>>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a >>>>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? >>>>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an >>>>affordable use of them. >>>> >>>> Sam Tetherow >>>> Sandhills Wireless >>>> >>>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not >>>>>built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. >>>>> >>>>>I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all >>>>>out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in >>>>>at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of >>>>>the down town businesses today! sigh >>>>> >>>>>Marlon >>>>>(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >>>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >>>>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >>>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" >>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM >>>>>Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement >>>>>>their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at >>>>>>making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities >>>>>>get >>>>>>involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the >>>>>>venture. >>>>>> >>>>>>On or off list replys welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> >>>>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> >>>>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>-- >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
:-) I smile when I read the fiber specs sometimes. I understand that single mode was supposed to go 10 km, but some manufacturers got together and figured out that they can easily go 70 km. + John >-Original Message- >From: Patrick Leary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 09:10 AM >To: ''WISPA General List'' >Subject: RE: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? > >Graded index 850nm/1300nm multimode, at least back in 1990 or so when I was >a fiber tech, had basic specs that permitted 2km before repeating. I >installed many projects with those distances before repeating. Actual >equipment tolerances would have enabled the real distance to be much >further. And that was with LED-based equipment, not even LASER. > >Patrick Leary >AVP Marketing >Alvarion, Inc. >o: 650.314.2628 >c: 760.580.0080 >Vonage: 650.641.1243 > >-Original Message- >From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:19 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? > >I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked >about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over >standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something >simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. > >Sam Tetherow >Sandhills Wireless > >John J. Thomas wrote: > >>Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or >more between repeaters. >> >>John >> >> >> >> >>>-Original Message----- >>>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM >>>To: 'WISPA General List' >>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>> >>>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were >>>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a >>>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? >>>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an >>>affordable use of them. >>> >>> Sam Tetherow >>> Sandhills Wireless >>> >>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not >>>>built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. >>>> >>>>I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all >>>>out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in >>>>at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of >>>>the down town businesses today! sigh >>>> >>>>Marlon >>>>(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >>>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM >>>>Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement >>>>>their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at >>>>>making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities >>>>>get >>>>>involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the >>>>>venture. >>>>> >>>>>On or off list replys welcome. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>>>Mike >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
2 Netgear FSM726 ~ $200 = $ 400 2 Netgear AGM721F ~ $285 = $ 570 2 500 Meter SC SC patch cables ~ 779 = $1558 + conduit, trench etc. is one way to go. Antoher is ethernet extenders. These will let you go 4000 feet at 16.67 Megabits per sec over voice grade twisted pair for about $600 per set. John >-Original Message- >From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 09:19 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? > >I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked >about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over >standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something >simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. > >Sam Tetherow >Sandhills Wireless > >John J. Thomas wrote: > >>Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more >>between repeaters. >> >>John >> >> >> >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM >>>To: 'WISPA General List' >>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>> >>>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were >>>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a >>>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? >>>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an >>>affordable use of them. >>> >>> Sam Tetherow >>> Sandhills Wireless >>> >>>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not >>>>built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. >>>> >>>>I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all >>>>out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in >>>>at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of >>>>the down town businesses today! sigh >>>> >>>>Marlon >>>>(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >>>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services >>>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >>>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >>>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: "'WISPA General List'" >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM >>>>Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement >>>>>their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at >>>>>making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities >>>>>get >>>>>involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the >>>>>venture. >>>>> >>>>>On or off list replys welcome. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>>>Mike >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
We've got a few customers that are mainly fiber carriers and use wireless to extend off that. The fiber business is a whole differnet animal. It can be good, but requires that you really understand what business you're getting into. Especially if you are leasing capacity to other carriers, the audit requirements can get fairly hefty. Most of the fiber folks I know of use the fiber as the primary backhaul for their wireless system and for direct drops into the biggest customers. In one example a school disctict actaully paid for the installation of the fiber to hit all their schools (over 100 miles) but the WISP still owned it and was able to add additional strands for a little extra $. But the school ended picking up 90%+ of the total cost. Now that makes the ROI look much better. Mike B John J. Thomas wrote: Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an affordable use of them. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Mike Brownson Electro-comm Distributing 5015 Paris St Denver, CO 80239 www.electro-comm.com (303) 371-8182 x112, (800) 525-0173 Your 24x7 support staff is at www.ShopECBIZ.com Interested in Metro WiFi? We have solutions Coming soon from Tranzeo, 900MHz PtMP -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Graded index 850nm/1300nm multimode, at least back in 1990 or so when I was a fiber tech, had basic specs that permitted 2km before repeating. I installed many projects with those distances before repeating. Actual equipment tolerances would have enabled the real distance to be much further. And that was with LED-based equipment, not even LASER. Patrick Leary AVP Marketing Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: >Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. > >John > > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM >>To: 'WISPA General List' >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >> >>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were >>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a >>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? >>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an >>affordable use of them. >> >> Sam Tetherow >> Sandhills Wireless >> >>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: >> >> >> >>>We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not >>>built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. >>> >>>I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all >>>out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in >>>at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of >>>the down town businesses today! sigh >>> >>>Marlon >>>(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >>>(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >>>42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >>>64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >>>www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >>>www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >>> >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "'WISPA General List'" >>>Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM >>>Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement >>>>their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at >>>>making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities >>>>get >>>>involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the >>>>venture. >>>> >>>>On or off list replys welcome. >>>> >>>>Thanks >>>> >>>>Mike >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>-- >>WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >>Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(192). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses(42). -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
I know distance isn't as much of an issue with fiber, but Marlon talked about ethernet *OR* fiber so I guess I was thinking ethernet over standard copper and was wondering if I was missing something simple/cheap to get/around over the 100m limit. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless John J. Thomas wrote: Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an affordable use of them. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more between repeaters. John >-Original Message- >From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? > >Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were >restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a >switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? >I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an >affordable use of them. > >Sam Tetherow >Sandhills Wireless > >Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not >> built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. >> >> I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all >> out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in >> at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of >> the down town businesses today! sigh >> >> Marlon >> (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales >> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services >> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! >> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) >> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless >> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM >> Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? >> >> >>> I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement >>> their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at >>> making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities >>> get >>> involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the >>> venture. >>> >>> On or off list replys welcome. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Mike >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet? I thought you were restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something? I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an affordable use of them. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul. I've not built my own fiber yet. I'm sure the day is coming though. I really screwed up a few years ago. The town had the sidewalks all out down town. I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that time. I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town businesses today! sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments? I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement their wireless operations. We have a couple of leads we are looking at making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the venture. On or off list replys welcome. Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/