Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Deliberant, Demarc, and Ascendance are all the same radios. Between these three you will need to compare antennas, enclosure, firmware, and surge suppression. I chose Demarc. Brian Chad Halsted wrote: Take a look at these… http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/rwo-plus-hpg-15a.htm I have ordered a couple to evaluate, but still haven’t had the time to put them up. They are built pretty solid and are a tad bit smaller than the TR-CPE200’s. They were advised to me by another Wisper that uses StarOS, he had good success with them. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jason Hensley *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:17 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
We're using the B-only version with StarOS. They work wonderfully. I think I mentioned it already on another list, but once again, I recommend these. -Nick Chad Halsted wrote: Take a look at these… http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/rwo-plus-hpg-15a.htm I have ordered a couple to evaluate, but still haven’t had the time to put them up. They are built pretty solid and are a tad bit smaller than the TR-CPE200’s. They were advised to me by another Wisper that uses StarOS, he had good success with them. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jason Hensley *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:17 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- --- | Nick White | | Network Administrator | | Tele-NET Internet | | http://www.tele-net.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I would echo that. Deliberant is great to work with and the radios work very well. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Anthony Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I would take a look at Deliberant. www.deliberant.com They ship and handle rma's promptly, along with great customer support. Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Teletronics and Zcomax both have what you are looking for. personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Agreed on the Linksys router part... We have recommended them since our beginning in 2001, and the only problems we've really had with them is when the Wireless-G v5 routers came out... They had a bug that would not work in our specific situation (routed network, Windows DHCP server). Once that was fixed, I was happy again. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Teletronics and Zcomax both have what you are looking for. personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Depends upon what one would consider easy. For us, we've never had a better performing radio-router combo as a star anything. Of course I can't use a web page to set it up, but who cares, ssh is just as easy. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I am having the problems with 6000 5a Tranzeos lately they seem to lockup or now the signal levels have dropped drastically at two locations. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jason Hensley wrote: I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
For bridges I've been having great luck with both the Tranzeo cpe 200s and the Inscape Data radios. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I would take a look at Deliberant. www.deliberant.com They ship and handle rma'spromptly, along with great customer support. Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though).I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though.Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run.-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Take a look at these http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/rwo-plus-hpg-15a.htm I have ordered a couple to evaluate, but still havent had the time to put them up. They are built pretty solid and are a tad bit smaller than the TR-CPE200s. They were advised to me by another Wisper that uses StarOS, he had good success with them. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
