Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
So I shouldnt have an issue connecting a BM5 in client mode to a B5 in AP mode? On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote: AirMAX is controlled at the AP end only. The client defaults to non-AirMAX unless it detects an AirMAX AP. Your posted link is about CSMA, not TDMA. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
Haven't tried it personally, but my understanding is that combination should work fine with the newer firmware. You would need to be up to at least 5.1 beta to get reliable .11a compatibility. I'm out in Victoria on the left coast for the holidays, won't be experimenting with the new RCs when I get back as we have live customers on the Rocket sectors today, but 5.1 RC3 should be better yet. You need to go to the UBNT forums to get the latest firmware. Its on the sticky threads in the M forums. The same version of M firmware is good for all M products regardless of type. http://www.ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16984 George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas So I shouldnt have an issue connecting a BM5 in client mode to a B5 in AP mode? On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:17 AM, George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.cawrote: AirMAX is controlled at the AP end only. The client defaults to non-AirMAX unless it detects an AirMAX AP. Your posted link is about CSMA, not TDMA. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
If you have a webserver (which I assume you do). You can download the mini speedtest from the speedtest.net site. Then you can run a speedtest from your colo to the client. That way they are pulling bandwidth from something at the same point as your transport and that should be the speed they can reach on the net if they find something that can hand them that much bandwidth. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January
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I Have to say, From what I've done with UBNT gear, Its been working really well. And its all very priced very well. MT has some major competition with them in the picture. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From
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I've said this many times, but I think UBNT priced themselves too low. I really think they should be 2x - 3x the price. (No, that doesn't mean someone can just mail me a RocketStation and charge 3x MSRP.) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I Have to say, From what I've done with UBNT gear, Its been working really well. And its all very priced very well. MT has some major competition with them in the picture. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From
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Or better yet while running standard 802.11 upgrade older CPE's one by one to AirMax capable ones and when all CPE's are AirMax capable just throw the switch at the AP. Greg On Dec 25, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8
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Man what are you guys doing talking business on christmas. Shame on you guys. ;) Merry Xmas to ya all. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:34:20 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I Have to say, From what I've done with UBNT gear, Its been working really well. And its all very priced very well. MT has some major competition with them in the picture. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5
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And the alternative is what? Family?! Yikes! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Man what are you guys doing talking business on christmas. Shame on you guys. ;) Merry Xmas to ya all. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:34:20 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I Have to say, From what I've done with UBNT gear, Its been working really well. And its all very priced very well. MT has some major competition with them in the picture. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
I'm kinda with Robert on this one. I just came home from being out with friends - the people I choose to associate with =รพ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: And the alternative is what? Family?! Yikes! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Man what are you guys doing talking business on christmas. Shame on you guys. ;) Merry Xmas to ya all. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:34:20 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I Have to say, From what I've done with UBNT gear, Its been working really well. And its all very priced very well. MT has some major competition with them in the picture. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I actually prefer it that way, though I haven't used AirMax yet. Then you don't have to worry about leaving a CPE stranded if you forget to change the setting. I can't wait for stable firmware and stocking to take advantage of this. I'm seriously considering leaving MT wireless for UBNT wireless (retaining MT for everything else). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Morris ghmor...@candlelight.ca Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas This is quite confusing that you have no control over AirMAX at the client end. I'm more used to Nstreme where both ends have to be set the same. Saying that, its really cool that you don't have to worry about the client, just shift the AP in and out of AirMAX to suit and the client follows automatically. Its going to be very, very cool once this firmware becomes just a little more mature. We already have customers hanging off a Rocket sector / Nano 5M client that are getting 36Mb symmetrical into a speedtest.net server in Montreal. The big challenge now is to find an Internet speedtest server capable of reliably delivering real readings to the customers. A nice problem to have. Merry Christmas to all of you and a happy, healthy and prosperous New Year!! George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas I tried it both ways but probably missed the settign when I had the BM5 in AP mode. Will retry. Thanks! -RickG On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
AirMAX is controlled at the AP end only. The client defaults to non-AirMAX unless it detects an AirMAX AP. Your posted link is about CSMA, not TDMA. George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas
If the Bullet 5M is in station mode then you won't have the AirMax option, only if it's in AP mode. So, if you are not in AP mode on the 5M then AirMax isn't an issue. Have you tried setting the 5M as the AP the NS5 as the client? That's if you are doing this on the bench.. :) Make sure you have the firmware up to date on the NS5 as well. All the ones I've been installing are the M5 as the AP. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Not finding that. See attached. Do you have version5? I note in the ubnt forums says you cant disable it. Aslo attached. -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: In the Advanced tab you'll see Enable AirMax. If it's not checked then it's off. If it's on, you won't even see the SSID of the newer units from the old, at least I haven't been able to. But I've been connecting my older NS5's to the newer stuff with no problem but I've only been using 20mhz channels. Are you doing 20mhz or 10? Try doing a plain vanilla config on both sides and see if you can connect. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Trying to get a bullet5 to connect to a Bullet5M. Not much luck. How do you turn off TDMA? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm confused. Will it connect to a AirGrid 5 or maybe a NanoStation 5M? The older Bullet 5 will connect to them but AirMax has to be turned off because the older equipment doesn't support TDMA. Sucks. I heard that the older could run TDMA but it's too much for them to be stable. At least that's the story. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Bullet5 was BulletM antennas Will a Bullet5 connect to a B5M? -RickG On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Yep. Those are gonna be the winner, as far as I'm concerned. And still less than the 89 buck 1x bullet, no antenna. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas The NanoBridge looks much more useful 2x2 MIMO, 22 dBi gain, 8* beam width, 12 diameter. I told them I'd pay up to $150 for something like this, and they MSRP it for $80. Shipping in January. Now they just need to announce the combo PoE injector, wifi AP, and switch that they said they would. The Bullets are only 1x1 MIMO (so not really MIMO at all) and will work with anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Yeah, they're just 1X MIMI, only one connector. I use them with Pac Wireless grids and stick Omni's. Did you see the new UBNT grids? The same thing, really. A bullet with a feed horn stuffed through the hole of a grid. Looks nifty, if I can really bring myself to acknowledge that I said nifty. The price of the whole thing, grid and radio, is less than just one bullet. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 12:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] BulletM antennas Can you use regular antennas with BulletM radios? -RickG -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http
