Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
That¹s the way I feel about it. The cost of bandwidth vs. the support and maintenance is a pain. Squid was nice 10 years ago when we had static content. With all the dynamic database driven content it can be a pain for the ISP. If you were an Enterprise Squid might make sense. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:34:46 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California No thanks - something else to maintain. I'd rather pay for the bandwidth. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote: We now have a client running Squid. There are some sites out there which maintain a list of major sites you should not be caching. You can add these as exceptions. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
If you use some of the cheaper but still decent alternatives for Squid setup and support ie - Vyatta for example - they help maintain that for you. Facebook, MySpace, igoogle - etc - just make no sense to cache ... On the other hand - being able to simply save 30% bandwidth is huge ... in itself. Squid is much like an antenna dish. Just popping it on a roof wont give you a good signal fine tuning it - will make all the difference in the world. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying "I cant get to this website" or "the website doesnt come up right", etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
How did it break Facebook? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
We now have a client running Squid. There are some sites out there which maintain a list of major sites you should not be caching. You can add these as exceptions. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
Mostly, it broke the uploader. No one could upload pictures. Also,things would just time-out or facebook would just not log in. I was doing transparent interception and redirecting with iptables. The network is NAT'ed and squid was on the NAT machine. I worked hard to make it work, even corresponding with the developers, but finally gave up. Jason W Josh Luthman wrote: How did it break Facebook? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying "I cant get to this website" or "the website doesnt come up right", etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
Was Facebook the only thing problematic? We now have a client running Squid. There are some sites out there which maintain a list of major sites you should not be caching. You can add these as exceptions. It would make sense to not cache Youtube, Facebook, Myspace, etc. What sites are out there? I can't find any. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: Mostly, it broke the uploader. No one could upload pictures. Also,things would just time-out or facebook would just not log in. I was doing transparent interception and redirecting with iptables. The network is NAT'ed and squid was on the NAT machine. I worked hard to make it work, even corresponding with the developers, but finally gave up. Jason W Josh Luthman wrote: How did it break Facebook? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
Same here. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
No thanks - something else to maintain. I'd rather pay for the bandwidth. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote: We now have a client running Squid. There are some sites out there which maintain a list of major sites you should not be caching. You can add these as exceptions. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:00:58 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California I ran a squid cache (3.1.X) and saw about a 30% bandwidth savings. But it broke facebook... No more squid. Jason W RickG wrote: Then you get the calls saying I cant get to this website or the website doesnt come up right, etc.etc. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: A caching proxy server would help that a lot. I am in the middle of moving things around but when it was active I was seeing a 30% drop in traffic that was not P2P. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us mailto:rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NPR Story on FCC Broadband Plan and Internet AccessinTrinity County California
I'm a provider for a small rural school, where the computer lab has about 25 machines in it. I provide them 5 meg, and have been thinking about turning it up a little, because during certain times in their computer classes, they seriously swamp that 5 megs, and they don't do p2p or download ISO's or anything else. It's just that 25 people clicking on the same links at the same moment, especially if it's some site with a small video clip or something, easily can use all 5 meg and even 10 meg and still have it feel slow. Not only that, to save money, the school IT guy moved the school's website to a server located at the school. Satellite... Is not adequate for school use, as far as I'm concerned. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ Yes Hughes Satelite performs very poorly. But I'd also argue, how fast does 20 computers for elementary school kids really need to be? 5. What would it cost to deploy a 100 mile microwave link between Corning and Weaverville with a minimum of 50Mbps of bandwidth but preferably 100Mbps I'm sure they could do it for much less than the $50k. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
