Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Yeppers, that's going to be a huge driver for us. 3g is going in all over, but it's too expensive and too slow. Out here people that travel for work are using it, and those who's only other choice is sat. service. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
We installed Alvarion 5.8 gear for those that wanted better service. We run LOW power ap's and small sectors. marlon - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector over the city but that is for Business Clients. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
That will be us just as soon as I can make it happen. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector over the city but that is for Business Clients. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Use other frequencies and install more sectors... 5.3ghz for short range customers 5.4ghz for short range customers 5.8ghz for longer distances Travis Microserv Steve Barnes wrote: Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector over the city but that is for Business Clients. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Travis Johnson wrote: Use other frequencies and install more sectors... 5.3ghz for short range customers 5.4ghz for short range customers 5.8ghz for longer distances Travis Microserv Thats what we do. We also use micro pops and use 10MHz channels. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
And to add to that idea, put another site in the area maybe to the South to shed some of the load from the current AP. This of course takes careful planning with coverage overlaps and frequency re-use to avoid self interference or using up the spectrum needlessly. Deploying systems that have some sort of time synchronization also helps a great deal. Self interference can be more easily controlled. In a metro market with a lot of noise, you would be surprised how well it works, even when competing with another WISP. When I worked for EarthLink, we were able to do this in Philly with a competing WISP (In this case using Canopy). It was hard getting both sides to the table to adjust network timing issues, but after that was done most of the interference problems went away. It is very hard to make any type of carrier sense collision avoidance (CSMA) technology not interfere with itself and get maximum frequency reuse. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps Use other frequencies and install more sectors... 5.3ghz for short range customers 5.4ghz for short range customers 5.8ghz for longer distances Travis Microserv Steve Barnes wrote: Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector over the city but that is for Business Clients. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
Changing polarities might help... or try using gear with a better c/i ratio But Travis is dead on... move to a different frequency Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps Use other frequencies and install more sectors... 5.3ghz for short range customers 5.4ghz for short range customers 5.8ghz for longer distances Travis Microserv Steve Barnes wrote: Need some advice here. We have this issue already but I am having to turn down clients due to noise in the City. I have a 3 Sector 300ft Tower 1 mile north of town of 10,000 residents. The southern sector has the worst problem with signals due to the noise everyone's routers gives off. So my 2.4 In the city is really bad. How are others servicing these people? Using StarOS and Tranzeo 2.4. I also have a 5.8 sector over the city but that is for Business Clients. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps
I have been seeing that trend for 4 years. One of my first customers was dropping his landline for cellular and needed internet. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Target market for wisps That will be us just as soon as I can make it happen. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Target market for wisps The portion of homes with cell phones but no landlines has grown to 18 percent, led by adults living with unrelated roommates, renters and young people, according to federal figures released Wednesday. An additional 13 percent of households have landlines but get all or nearly all calls on their cells, the survey showed. Taken together, that means about three in 10 households are essentially reachable only on their wireless phones. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_hi_te/cell_phones_only WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
