Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80' up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. Victoria Proffer - President/CEO www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Wat er-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Nasty is right, to say the least. I drive by this tank everyday - it is HUGE and I can't even imagine what shape these guys are in after falling into it. Frank Aquino Snappy Internet Telecom St. Louis Broadband wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80' up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
I remember it when I was down in WPB. Hoping to hear they're both OK. Latest reports say one has a broken leg and the other unconscious. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Frank Aquino fr...@snappydsl.net wrote: Nasty is right, to say the least. I drive by this tank everyday - it is HUGE and I can't even imagine what shape these guys are in after falling into it. Frank Aquino Snappy Internet Telecom St. Louis Broadband wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.comwrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings. ~V~ From: RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80' up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. Victoria Proffer - President/CEO www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Wat er-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com http://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com http://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.commailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings... ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.commailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80' up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers-Injured-After-Falling-in-Water-Tower-Tank-104575149.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3177 - Release Date: 10/07/10 13:34:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Yikes... what spooky, scary stuff. Next, is someone going to tell me that these workers are undocumented illegals smuggled in from Bangaladesh and hired as independent contractors by the blasting/painting company??? On 10/8/2010 12:15 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80 up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp
Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank
Hey .. Hey... Hey Just because we are in South Florida, it doesn't mean that we don't follow OSHA Standard or Safety Codes. And Jack, please don't drag illegal Bangladeshi, Indians or Pakistani's into this You should know better... Bangladeshi's, Pakistani's, and Indians are normally, Gas Station Owners, Taxi Cab Drivers, or Computer Techs, (the legal ones are Doctors.. and Engineers :)). For tough jobs invlolving manual labor we have ... Cubans, Ecuadorians, Chilean, Colombians, Haitians and some Mexicans..(Remember, English is our Second Language after Spanish ...) :) (Toung Cheek humor from a South Floridian, naturalized Pakistani Mechanical Enginner !) On a serious note, our sincere thoughts and prayers with the ones who are hurt and their families, in this accident. Accidents don't have prejudice nor do they discriminate Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 3:34 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Yikes... what spooky, scary stuff. Next, is someone going to tell me that these workers are undocumented illegals smuggled in from Bangaladesh and hired as independent contractors by the blasting/painting company??? On 10/8/2010 12:15 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com http://www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com http://www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank Happening now: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Workers
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¿Hablas español? Gregorio On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hey .. Hey... Hey Just because we are in South Florida, it doesn't mean that we don't follow OSHA Standard or Safety Codes. And Jack, please don't drag illegal Bangladeshi, Indians or Pakistani's into this You should know better... Bangladeshi's, Pakistani's, and Indians are normally, Gas Station Owners, Taxi Cab Drivers, or Computer Techs, (the legal ones are Doctors.. and Engineers :)). For tough jobs invlolving manual labor we have ... Cubans, Ecuadorians, Chilean, Colombians, Haitians and some Mexicans..(Remember, English is our Second Language after Spanish ...) :) (Toung Cheek humor from a South Floridian, naturalized Pakistani Mechanical Enginner !) On a serious note, our sincere thoughts and prayers with the ones who are hurt and their families, in this accident. Accidents don't have prejudice nor do they discriminate Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 3:34 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Yikes... what spooky, scary stuff. Next, is someone going to tell me that these workers are undocumented illegals smuggled in from Bangaladesh and hired as independent contractors by the blasting/painting company??? On 10/8/2010 12:15 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com http://www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com http://www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *RickG *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water
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Si On 8 October 2010 22:34, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: ¿Hablas español? Gregorio On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hey .. Hey... Hey Just because we are in South Florida, it doesn't mean that we don't follow OSHA Standard or Safety Codes. And Jack, please don't drag illegal Bangladeshi, Indians or Pakistani's into this You should know better... Bangladeshi's, Pakistani's, and Indians are normally, Gas Station Owners, Taxi Cab Drivers, or Computer Techs, (the legal ones are Doctors.. and Engineers :)). For tough jobs invlolving manual labor we have ... Cubans, Ecuadorians, Chilean, Colombians, Haitians and some Mexicans..(Remember, English is our Second Language after Spanish ...) :) (Toung Cheek humor from a South Floridian, naturalized Pakistani Mechanical Enginner !) On a serious note, our sincere thoughts and prayers with the ones who are hurt and their families, in this accident. Accidents don't have prejudice nor do they discriminate Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 3:34 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Yikes... what spooky, scary stuff. Next, is someone going to tell me that these workers are undocumented illegals smuggled in from Bangaladesh and hired as independent contractors by the blasting/painting company??? On 10/8/2010 12:15 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: While surely different crews have different practices, I also worked on a big tank and those guys doing the welding/blasting/painting were crazy and were being paid jack sh*t. Nature of the industry methinks. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 2:06 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I know first hand that these crews who blast these towers are very unsafe. We had to erect a temporary tower while one of our water towers was being blasted and repainted. They had to rig a curtain on the outside, so they were welding some pig joints on the top of the bowl to attach some poles to that would eventually hold the curtain. While erecting our temp tower, I watched a guy hang on to one of the joints with one hand while leaning out of the side of the bowl and grab a 100 lb pole from a guy on the catwalk with the other hand and then try to hoist it into place...all with no safety harness or even so much as a rope tied to his belt. I thought for sure I was going to witness a death that day. Cameron On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: Fire Departments should have an Access Point and recording device on the rescue vehicle and a camera with audio with wireless on their rig so they can lower it down to the victims when they first get there to better size up the condition of the payment and have instant communication. No more (Hey are you OK down there?) Hell they could put telemetry on it too. Forbes On 10/8/2010 10:23 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote: There real question is where is the safety equipment? fall arrest laynards etc. This is why we have all this equipment. If they fell and were clipped in, it just would have been more uncomfortable rather than potentially deadly. -Cameron On 10/8/2010 1:34 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote: My pelican clip froze and I had replaced my wd40 with a red bull, unfortunately it did not give me wings… ~V~ *From:* RickG [mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 12:22 PM *To:* li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Workers Trapped in Hollywood Water Tower Tank I've got both water tanks and communication towers. I'll take the water tanks hands down as long as they're in good shape. They're much easier to work on without hangin around :) On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:06 PM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Nasty. Poor guys, I am saying a prayer for them. I know water towers are part of our industry, but frankly, they scare me. Got stuck on one about 80’ up in the tube and have never felt right about them since. *Victoria Proffer - President/CEO* www.ShowMeBroadband.com http://www.ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://www.ShowMeBroadband.com www.StLouisBroadband.com http://www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun
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I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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ops replied to wrong message Richard On 8 October 2010 22:43, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote: I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Agree with you there... That story is not finished yet, all hoping praying for a good resolution / rescue.. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 5:43 PM, richard sterne wrote: I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Some Time Lapse Photos of the Rescue: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=290468id=750600660l=4c5504c4c8 - http://www.rafwireless.com http://livestream.com/rafwireless http://www.youtube.com/user/Rafmanne On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 17:49, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.comwrote: YES On 8 October 2010 22:47, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote: Agree with you there... That story is not finished yet, all hoping praying for a good resolution / rescue.. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 10/8/2010 5:43 PM, richard sterne wrote: I have the greatest admiration for those miners trapped underground they have a courage that most people do not have. I wish to see them rescued ASAP. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
