Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
BlockBuster also has an online movie delivery service. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 10:01 AM, support wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't recall the last time I saw more than one car in their parking lot. Everyone's using Netflix/Blockbuster streaming/Amazon Unbox/et cetera. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't recall the last time I saw more than one car in their parking lot. Everyone's using Netflix/Blockbuster streaming/Amazon Unbox/et cetera. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Just saw an article that redbox rentals have outpaced the other store rentals anyway. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't recall the last time I saw more than one car in their parking lot. Everyone's using Netflix/Blockbuster streaming/Amazon Unbox/et cetera. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine, make up, shotgun, clothes and then gets a video on the way out? McDonald's needs a drive through Redbox IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw an article that redbox rentals have outpaced the other store rentals anyway. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't recall the last time I saw more than one car in their parking lot. Everyone's using Netflix/Blockbuster streaming/Amazon Unbox/et cetera. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:25, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Many, but certainly not all. There are three McD's near here, only one of which has a Redbox. (Though two of the bigger grocery stores in town have Redbox machines, and one gas station has a Blockbuster Express.) Shame the selection is usually pretty paltry - if you want to watch something that's more than a year old, it's pretty unlikely you'll be able to find it at Redbox. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Mcdonalds here has redbox. Along with most of the pharmacies. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That doesn't surprise me at all. Who drives to the video to get a video instead of going to Walmart to get groceries, medicine, make up, shotgun, clothes and then gets a video on the way out? McDonald's needs a drive through Redbox IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Just saw an article that redbox rentals have outpaced the other store rentals anyway. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Redbox is at Walmart and McDonald's. I'm guessing all of them, but could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:01, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster You still have a Blockbuster nearby? There's not one within thirty miles of me; the last one closed a couple years ago. There's one video rental store in town, and I can't recall the last time I saw more than one car in their parking lot. Everyone's using Netflix/Blockbuster streaming/Amazon Unbox/et cetera. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Title: signature Blockbuster doesn't do streaming for free, if at all. We just switched from Blockbuster to Netflix for this reason. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet! Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on or follow us on On 1/18/2011 11:01 AM, support wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
And I am banking (latterly) that the GPS sync will help double my capacity. It should, but we will see. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
For us, we have more capacity at each tower than the aggregate amount of bandwidth in AP's. I keep telling others, it's not the cost to get it to the tower, but from the tower to the home that hurts. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote: I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
That's because Netflix has the older stuff =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's because Netflix has the older stuff =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.commailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netmailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry I just signed my parents up for Netflix. They have 22,000 titles. Amazon has over 70,000. Netflix is $9 a month unlimited, Amazon is $3.99 and up per title. Amazon does have the newer stuff that Netflix doesn't but that's even more than $3.99 per title. Overall Netflix is the best buy. My parents are loving it. They can always grab an individual title from Amazon when they want to. Amazon doesn't appear to have a package deal other than some bundled crappie titles. No all you can eat from Amazon. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Due to licensing Netflix only carries older movies that it can make more money on. The newer movies (like those just came out on DVD in the last few weeks, months). Redbox is able to get a better market (or maybe that it isn't instant/streaming and costs are less) and offer the newer movies. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Que? Not sure what you mean. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:55 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's because Netflix has the older stuff =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Interesting. I don’t see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com mailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com mailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net http://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
When you have 4 - 8 UBNT APs pushing up to 100 megs, backhaul becomes difficult. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:51 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Interesting. I don't see the backhaul being the problem, fiber or high cap BH's will do the job. The issue really lies in the last hop to the sub. The idea of small cells is a good one and with UBNT's pricing it's doable. - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:49 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Bingo. Im keeping my cells small so I can keep the link rates high. I am working on getting fiber (or at least copper) between most relays. In a few places I am still looking at what it would take to be a cable provider but i really dislike all the regulation that comes with that. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 -
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 1:51 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:33 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeromie Reeves *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.com mailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com mailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net http://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message.
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 1:51 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, support supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On 1/18/2011 2:04 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 1:51 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, supportsupp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
GPS will be available before the beamsteering units, and yes, I'll be using GPS. You'd be a fool not to. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 2:07 PM, support wrote: if your using 40mhz I sure hope you are upgrading to the new GPS units On 1/18/2011 2:04 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: PtP is a whole different ballgame I hope you are right. I would love to hear a success story in the face of this onslaught of bandwidth consumption. - Jerry From:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I haven't had issues with 40 MHz not passing 130 megabit on PtP. Remember that with the beamsteering, noise should be reduced as well. Having 8 dB more gain and reduced noise can only help immensely in a PtMP environment over standard sectors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 1:51 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: If you can get your network running on 40MHz channels you will have done the impossible (IMO) Realistically 10MHz channels will do a little better than 25Mbps. - Jerry From:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix That's what I'm deploying once UBNT beamsteering is out. Currently using MT and Canopy. I'll have fiber injection at more than 5 places in the network (1/3 of the APs). Will do more when I finish a couple more fiber deals. I don't expect to surpass 30 - 40 subs per AP, 40 MHz channels in 5 GHz. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:49 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: As that what you are running? You have a fiber feed to every tower? What is your expected subs/AP? Are you running full wraps? Do you have additional spectrum to lean into when your current AP's max out? - Jerry From:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix Fiber and UBNT. Problem solved. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/18/2011 11:42 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Do you mind sharing with the rest of the class your design for supporting NetFlix? - Jerry From:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix I would rather partner with netflix. In fact, i would LOVE to. I have designed my network to handle it. My competition (wireless) can not handle the number of netflixers as I can. I need to leverage that ability. The best way would be to have some kind of deal where I can say $$/mo and free netflix, since people ARE going to use it any how. At least with that kind of arrangement I can use some less quality bandwidth to feed it, keeping the quality bandwidth that costs so much more out here, for the gamers and surfing. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, supportsupp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote: has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.nethttp://www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
Without strict NetNeutrality laws, WISPs would have the flexibilty and leverage to make those kind of deals, for mutual benefit of both parties. However, not sure its cost effective to encourage increased Video usage for just $5 per month. I remember a tradeshow Session with CWLAbs on VOIP like 6 years ago or so, where one of the messages was sure VOIP could be done over wireless 802.11b reliably, but the trade off was that to keep latency where it needed to be, a WISP would only being able to serve 5x less customers per sector. So... sell broadband with 50cust per sector, or 10 custoemrs per sector with VOIP. Sure sectors were 3mb back then and not 30mb, but the point still applies. A 40k stream compared to 1.5mb video stream. If a WISP had a market with only 30 homes within range of a sector, and the sectors were LOS with 30mbps +, sure maybe encouraging video Might be OK. But I'd argue that most markets are larger than that, and most markets dont have all LOS customers. At the end of the day, ability to scale is reduced. Trading $5 block buster revenue for a loss of several a $40/mon sub, when doing the math on capacity usage. The only way I'd justify a BlockBuster type partner ship would be if it was charging pr mb of transfer, where maybe each video rental was $5, and each party got $2.50 per movie rental. Over the month, the revenue would then be more attractive. But then, why even bother to partner? Why not do the math to deterine how much bandwdith a single movie download takes, and then jsut automatically charge your customer that fee, and sell plans with per mb billing. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: support supp...@nitline.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix
The video will happen no matter what. Some of my areas I can do bit billing, some I can not (yet) and might not ever be able to (dsl at acceptable speeds). Packaging netflix (or any other in demand video product) will let me raise the price of that product. This would give me a foot for some other projects I am working on where I need a video product. If there were a cable co I could partner with that could allow me to stream just the OTA channels + 1 or 2 paid cable channels, I would be all over them. (Assuming it did not need a $50K up front fee, $400 STBs, etc). Netflix is on pretty much everything, 360s, PS3s, and now most new TV's even have it built in. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Without strict NetNeutrality laws, WISPs would have the flexibilty and leverage to make those kind of deals, for mutual benefit of both parties. However, not sure its cost effective to encourage increased Video usage for just $5 per month. I remember a tradeshow Session with CWLAbs on VOIP like 6 years ago or so, where one of the messages was sure VOIP could be done over wireless 802.11b reliably, but the trade off was that to keep latency where it needed to be, a WISP would only being able to serve 5x less customers per sector. So... sell broadband with 50cust per sector, or 10 custoemrs per sector with VOIP. Sure sectors were 3mb back then and not 30mb, but the point still applies. A 40k stream compared to 1.5mb video stream. If a WISP had a market with only 30 homes within range of a sector, and the sectors were LOS with 30mbps +, sure maybe encouraging video Might be OK. But I'd argue that most markets are larger than that, and most markets dont have all LOS customers. At the end of the day, ability to scale is reduced. Trading $5 block buster revenue for a loss of several a $40/mon sub, when doing the math on capacity usage. The only way I'd justify a BlockBuster type partner ship would be if it was charging pr mb of transfer, where maybe each video rental was $5, and each party got $2.50 per movie rental. Over the month, the revenue would then be more attractive. But then, why even bother to partner? Why not do the math to deterine how much bandwdith a single movie download takes, and then jsut automatically charge your customer that fee, and sell plans with per mb billing. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: support supp...@nitline.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:01 AM Subject: [WISPA] idea to slow the pain of netflix has anyone ever tried to partner with blockbuster say something like if you have a 1Mps service for $39.95 but then partner with the local blockbuster then have 1Mps premier service for $49.95 includes deals at block buster $5 would go to blockbuster a extra $5 would go to the WISP blockbuster gets more business people watch less netflix seems like a win win Please give your input Thanks -- Tim Steele supp...@nitline.com NITLine Support (574) 772-7550 ext 103 www.NITLine.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
