Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Henry F. Camacho Jr.
How about a used 2621.

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Alan Long wrote:
 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.

  





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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Alan Long
So what level license will I need just to do routing?


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but 
that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So 
far.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, 
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu
 rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830


 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net


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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
No idea.  I have to get Butch to program them for me.  Routing is one of 
those things that I've decided not to learn :-).  It's not hard to hire 
someone to take care of that remotely.  I've spent my time and energy on the 
things that aren't so easy to hire.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that,
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu
 rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830


 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net


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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Static routing is unbelievably easy.

Dynamic can get confusing but just jump in and try it once, you'll get it.

On 6/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 No idea.  I have to get Butch to program them for me.  Routing is one of
 those things that I've decided not to learn :-).  It's not hard to hire
 someone to take care of that remotely.  I've spent my time and energy on the
 things that aren't so easy to hire.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that,
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu
 rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830


 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net


 tel:
 mobile:



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[WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All,

What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
reliability, ease of use etc.

Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off 
the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even 
mine (faked info).  sigh

We use Courier MTA.

My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those 
sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
the server admins.

Suggestions?

laters,
marlon




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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains 
than any small independent isp's ...



Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
 reliability, ease of use etc.
 
 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off 
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even 
 mine (faked info).  sigh
 
 We use Courier MTA.
 
 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those 
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
 the server admins.
 
 Suggestions?
 
 laters,
 marlon
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, I wonder about that too.  Probably for two reasons, mainly because 
they ARE the biggest spammers :-).  There's money in it after all 
hehehehe

Mostly I'll bet that they have people watching for such activity in real 
time.  And they can tweak servers constantly.  I have to catch things after 
the damage is done.

There has to be a better way.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
 I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains
 than any small independent isp's ...



 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up 
 to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response 
 from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jon Auer
We are moving to Postfix with PolicyD (http://www.policyd.org) to
solve this exact problem.
PolicyD lets you limit the total number of emails sent per user per
day. No reason a normal home user should be sending 1000 messages per
day and this will let us limit it. There may be a plugin for Courier
that does the same thing.

There is still the issue of people flagging the jokes between friends
and church newsletters as spam instead of deleting...

Some larger mail shops run all their outbound email through a spam
filter to stop outbound stuff. If the spam is coming from a botnet
there is a chance the spam signature is already in the spam filter
database. I know some people use SpamAssassian for this.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Marlon K. Schafero...@odessaoffice.com 
wrote:
 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread richard sterne
Static routing is unbelievably easy.
Ive tried with no luck I stand with Marlon on this.

Richard

2009/6/26 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 Static routing is unbelievably easy.

 Dynamic can get confusing but just jump in and try it once, you'll get it.

 On 6/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
  No idea.  I have to get Butch to program them for me.  Routing is one of
  those things that I've decided not to learn :-).  It's not hard to hire
  someone to take care of that remotely.  I've spent my time and energy on
 the
  things that aren't so easy to hire.
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
 
 
  So what level license will I need just to do routing?
 
  
  Aerowire
  Alan Long
  Director of Network Operations
  alan.l...@aerowire.net
  687 North Dean Road
  Auburn, AL 36830
  tel: 3342759998
  mobile: 336092
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
 
  I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but
  that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
  far.
 
  marlon
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
 
 
  Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can
 handle
  30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that,
  just
  need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are
 other
  options..Thanks for any help.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  http://www.aerowire.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Alan Long
  Director of Network Operations
 
  Aerowire
 
 
  
 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu
  rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road
  Auburn, AL 36830
 
 
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  mobile:
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Scott Reed
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/License_levels
OSPF, BGP, RIP start at level 3.

Alan Long wrote:
 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but 
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So 
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


   
 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, 
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.







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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Terry Hickey
MailwatchMailScannerSpamAssassian Virus Program of your choice MTA 
of your choice
Monitor blacklist stuff with DNSStuff

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 Yeah, I wonder about that too.  Probably for two reasons, mainly because
 they ARE the biggest spammers :-).  There's money in it after all
 hehehehe

 Mostly I'll bet that they have people watching for such activity in real
 time.  And they can tweak servers constantly.  I have to catch things 
 after
 the damage is done.

 There has to be a better way.
 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
 I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains
 than any small independent isp's ...



 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Chuck Profito
Marlon
We use FRANK MUTO.  Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
And our customers really like the change.  Mostly for the full featured back
end and their own spam control.
Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway or
our pocketbook, or latency.
Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail.
Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here.

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cprof...@cv-access.com 
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to Rural Central California

 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Hi All,

What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
reliability, ease of use etc.

Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

mine (faked info).  sigh

We use Courier MTA.

My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
the server admins.

Suggestions?

laters,
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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Nope, can do dynamic in 4 :) 

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Josh Luthman wrote:
 Like 2?  RBs comes with 3 or 4.  The 450 includes the license you need
 for STATIC routing.  Dynamic routing needs 4 I believe.

 On 6/26/09, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote:
   
 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 
 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that,
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


   
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2009-06-26 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Anybody on this list service Lorida, FL? Know of anybody?

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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wyble
There are whitelist companies. Goog/yahoo/live and other popular web 
sites (ie mc donalds/BofA etc) pay 50k+ a year to be on that list.

People then subscribe to that list and pass the traffic uninhibited for 
a share of the profit.

I previously worked at an event management company that got well over 10 
million visitors a day, and sent out massive amounts of e-mail. We paid 
to be on such lists.

George Rogato wrote:
 How come Google, Yahoo, and Live.com don't get black listed.
 I'm pretty sure 1 million times more spam comes out of those domains 
 than any small independent isp's ...
 
 
 
 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off 
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even 
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those 
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread reader
One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP, 
which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.

It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not 
on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules 
put on the server.

You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered outbound 
through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate ports and 
using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly out.

I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.

ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an 
authentication and filtering of outbound emails.





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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Pat O'Connor
We're switching to this over this weekend.

http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP, 
 which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.

 It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not 
 on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules 
 put on the server.

 You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered outbound 
 through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate ports and 
 using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly out.

 I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.

 ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an 
 authentication and filtering of outbound emails.




 
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


   
 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

2009-06-26 Thread Thomas P. Galla
Freebsd based

http://www.pfsense.com/

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions on Firewall

Wait pictures of this GUI???

On 6/23/09, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote:
 You might also consider a Cisco 800 or 1800 series router. They do
 firewalls well and have a nice GUI.

 John

 Patrick D.. Nix, Jr wrote:
 Any suggestions on a good linux firewall distro.  I'm looking at either
 implementing this or going with an older Cisco PIX 525.  Which would be
 the best way to go?  Something with a nice GUI would be good



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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Have you looked into Postini?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
  One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called
 ASSP,
  which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
 
  It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone
 not
  on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules
  put on the server.
 
  You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered
 outbound
  through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate ports
 and
  using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly
 out.
 
  I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
 
  ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
  authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
 
 
 
 
  
  insert witty tagline here
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
  off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
  even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
  those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Andy Trimmell
We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Have you looked into Postini?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
  One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something
called
 ASSP,
  which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
 
  It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents
anyone
 not
  on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall
rules
  put on the server.
 
  You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered
 outbound
  through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate
ports
 and
  using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail
directly
 out.
 
  I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
 
  ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
  authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
 
 
 
 
  
  insert witty tagline here
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for
it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We
don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.
This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other
than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone
rang
  off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get
(up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the
reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's
not
  even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per
day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of
all
  those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no
response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Christopher Hair
Check out Mailfoundry also...

http://www.mailfoundry.com/



.

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NTInet Inc


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:38 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Have you looked into Postini?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
  One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something
called
 ASSP,
  which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
 
  It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents
anyone
 not
  on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall
rules
  put on the server.
 
  You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered
 outbound
  through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate
ports
 and
  using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail
directly
 out.
 
  I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
 
  ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
  authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
 
 
 
 
  
  insert witty tagline here
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for
it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We
don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.
This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other
than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone
rang
  off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get
(up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the
reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's
not
  even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per
day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of
all
  those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no
response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Routing is not hard. Its just documented and explained poorly with only half 
the relevent details disclosed, and therefore often misunderstood.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Static routing is unbelievably easy.

 Dynamic can get confusing but just jump in and try it once, you'll get it.

 On 6/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 No idea.  I have to get Butch to program them for me.  Routing is one of
 those things that I've decided not to learn :-).  It's not hard to hire
 someone to take care of that remotely.  I've spent my time and energy on 
 the
 things that aren't so easy to hire.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can 
 handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that,
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are 
 other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







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 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


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 Suite 1337
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 When you have eliminated the impossible, that 

Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jeremy Parr
I was running a Barracuda for a few years until it died, and had to
implement a Postfix box with some addins in a hurry. The
Postfix+spamassasin+rbls+greylisting now works as well as the
Barracuda, and doesn't require the annual support fees.

On 6/26/09, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote:
 We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Have you looked into Postini?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com wrote:

 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
  One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something
 called
 ASSP,
  which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
 
  It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents
 anyone
 not
  on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall
 rules
  put on the server.
 
  You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered
 outbound
  through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate
 ports
 and
  using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail
 directly
 out.
 
  I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
 
  ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
  authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
 
 
 
 
  
  insert witty tagline here
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for
 it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We
 don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.
 This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other
 than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone
 rang
  off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get
 (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the
 reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's
 not
  even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per
 day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of
 all
  those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no
 response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 

 
 
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[WISPA] It's a friday....

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wyble
I can't resist and I'm bored thoughts on the new FCC chairman?




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Re: [WISPA] It's a friday....

2009-06-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well,

He gets an A+ for the Quote of the Day.

I learned the power of pragmatism and the danger of dogma. If confirmed, I 
would strive to bring that spirit of common sense to my role in government.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:46 PM
Subject: [WISPA] It's a friday


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[WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Please contact offlist.

Brian



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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Robert West
Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as Gmail
and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted them
but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?  No
more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of our
trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
of her incredimail.  YES!!!



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Hi All,

What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
reliability, ease of use etc.

Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

mine (faked info).  sigh

We use Courier MTA.

My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
the server admins.

Suggestions?

laters,
marlon





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[WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly the
end caps)

Jeromie



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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I would like to know if anyone has some NS2s too, please.

On 6/26/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
I use Gmail for ISPs.  Minimal support.

On 6/26/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

 We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
 the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
 address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
 accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
 grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
 out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as Gmail
 and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
 blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted them
 but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?  No
 more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of our
 trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
 reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
 of her incredimail.  YES!!!



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?

On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly
 the
 end caps)

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
www.wlanparts.com

Josh Luthman wrote:
 I would like to know if anyone has some NS2s too, please.
 
 On 6/26/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Gino Villarini
We provide service mostly to business, many of them run their own  
email servers.

So we are looking for a transparent outgoing email filter

Any sugestions?



Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Josh Luthman  
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I use Gmail for ISPs.  Minimal support.

 On 6/26/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

 We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and  
 lots of
 the customers were never getting them because they never used the  
 email
 address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
 accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they  
 never
 grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped  
 giving
 out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such  
 as Gmail
 and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we  
 can.
 blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and  
 hosted them
 but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now  
 what?  No
 more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than  
 half of our
 trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma  
 how to
 reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped  
 it out
 of her incredimail.  YES!!!



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for  
 it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We  
 don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.   
 This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other  
 than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone  
 rang off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get  
 (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's  
 not even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per  
 day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of  
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of  
 all those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no  
 response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




website says out of stock.

Matt Jenkins wrote:

  www.wlanparts.com

Josh Luthman wrote:
  
  
I would like to know if anyone has some NS2s too, please.

On 6/26/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote:


  Please contact offlist.

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Matt Jenkins
I just ordered a few from them earlier this week

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 website says out of stock.
 
 Matt Jenkins wrote:
 www.wlanparts.com

 Josh Luthman wrote:
   
 I would like to know if anyone has some NS2s too, please.

 On 6/26/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote:
 
 Please contact offlist.

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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
40 units can be ordered in any 5 minutes of 5 days, though...

wlanparts and rocnoc are up-to-the-minute stock on their website.  Very
convenient.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

 I just ordered a few from them earlier this week

 Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
  website says out of stock.
 
  Matt Jenkins wrote:
  www.wlanparts.com
 
  Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  I would like to know if anyone has some NS2s too, please.
 
  On 6/26/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote:
 
  Please contact offlist.
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We already use postini for email.  Been doing that long before I even knew 
Franks name!

He's a good guy and postini is amazingly good.

He does your outbound too?

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 Marlon
 We use FRANK MUTO.  Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
 letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
 And our customers really like the change.  Mostly for the full featured 
 back
 end and their own spam control.
 Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway 
 or
 our pocketbook, or latency.
 Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail.
 Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here.

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 cprof...@cv-access.com
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
 off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
 even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
 those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes.  Gmail goes in/out of Postini before it reaches the Internets.

Archiving all that email makes things great!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 We already use postini for email.  Been doing that long before I even knew
 Franks name!

 He's a good guy and postini is amazingly good.

 He does your outbound too?

 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


  Marlon
  We use FRANK MUTO.  Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice
 5
  letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
  And our customers really like the change.  Mostly for the full featured
  back
  end and their own spam control.
  Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway
  or
  our pocketbook, or latency.
  Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail.
  Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here.
 
  Chuck Profito
  209-988-7388
  CV-ACCESS, INC
  cprof...@cv-access.com
  Providing High Speed Broadband
  to Rural Central California
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
  off
 
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
  even
 
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
  those
 
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Frank Muto
They switched over to a hosted service after first having Postini.  



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www.SecureEmailPlus.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff


 We already use postini for email.  Been doing that long before I even knew 
 Franks name!
 
 He's a good guy and postini is amazingly good.
 
 He does your outbound too?
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 Marlon
 We use FRANK MUTO.  Ever since we made the change, email has been a nice 5
 letter word, instead of a repetitive prefixed 4 letter one :-).
 And our customers really like the change.  Mostly for the full featured 
 back
 end and their own spam control.
 Not to mention, 90% of that bandwidth usage never makes it to the gateway 
 or
 our pocketbook, or latency.
 Since it is a paid service, I usually refer the 'extras' kids to Gmail.
 Have a good weekend fellow wisps, I'm outta here.

 Chuck Profito
 209-988-7388
 CV-ACCESS, INC
 cprof...@cv-access.com
 Providing High Speed Broadband
 to Rural Central California



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't 
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This 
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang 
 off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not 
 even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day 
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of 
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all 
 those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Although you'll be using a Cisco, I'd recommend getting CCNA training...  it 
is really good (assuming a teacher worth a crap) at getting you up to speed.


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--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:53 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 Routing is not hard. Its just documented and explained poorly with only 
 half
 the relevent details disclosed, and therefore often misunderstood.


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Static routing is unbelievably easy.

 Dynamic can get confusing but just jump in and try it once, you'll get 
 it.

 On 6/26/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:
 No idea.  I have to get Butch to program them for me.  Routing is one of
 those things that I've decided not to learn :-).  It's not hard to hire
 someone to take care of that remotely.  I've spent my time and energy on
 the
 things that aren't so easy to hire.

 laters,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 So what level license will I need just to do routing?

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router

 I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want 
 but
 that gives you more power and memory) MT units.  They are AMAZING.  So
 far.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router


 Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can
 handle
 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like 
 that,
 just
 need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are
 other
 options..Thanks for any help.







 http://www.aerowire.net







 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations

 Aerowire


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 rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830


 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net


 tel:
 mobile:



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 mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998


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 mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092







 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini
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[WISPA] Vendor congrats

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, I've said this before, but it happened again, so I thought I'd say it 
again.

Recently during a tower rebuild, I was having problems with two sectors.  I 
ordered 2x R5Hs, 2x pigtails, and 2x jumpers from Roc-Noc.

I left my house at about 10:00 AM.  Tom normally has someone come in at noon 
that makes the jumpers, but as I needed them ASAP, he made them himself (hope I 
didn't make him late for his equipment pickup from the airport).  By noon I was 
up and running.

Thanks again, Tom.


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Re: [WISPA] Vendor congrats

2009-06-26 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I have to agree, Roc-Noc rocks!

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Yes, I've said this before, but it happened again, so I thought I'd say it 
 again.

 Recently during a tower rebuild, I was having problems with two sectors.  I 
 ordered 2x R5Hs, 2x pigtails, and 2x jumpers from Roc-Noc.

 I left my house at about 10:00 AM.  Tom normally has someone come in at noon 
 that makes the jumpers, but as I needed them ASAP, he made them himself (hope 
 I didn't make him late for his equipment pickup from the airport).  By noon I 
 was up and running.

 Thanks again, Tom.


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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wyble
I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

What do folks say?

I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point 
configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I 
can break it.



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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wyble
ROFL.

Josh Luthman wrote:
 We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?
 
 On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly
 the
 end caps)

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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wyble
If your in Iran, you could probably use both.

Josh Luthman wrote:
 We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?
 
 On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
My bad, I thought I had Ubnt in the topic. Ubiquiti Bullets, need 2 end caps and
 extra seal, or 3 end caps.

Jeromie

Josh Luthman wrote:
 We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Wu
There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for 
example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you get 
all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)

-Charles

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Hi All,

What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's 
reliability, ease of use etc.

Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch 
things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has 
now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to 
limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off 
the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to 
40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply 
address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even 
mine (faked info).  sigh

We use Courier MTA.

My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per 
user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages 
received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those 
sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from 
the server admins.

Suggestions?

laters,
marlon




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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jayson Baker
Gmail Partner Edition.  $0.35/mo/box and never a worry.  We paid nothing for
setup fees, going through Joseph M at IKANO.

We used Everyone.net in the past, but I'd stay as *far away* from them as
possible.  We had some large clients hosted with them and when the large
clients were a few months behind on their payments to us and we threatened
to turn them off, they went direct to Everyone.net and got their own
account.  Everyone.net transferred their accounts over without so much as an
email to us.  Everyone.net was worthless in trying to resolve the issue and
basically just ignored us for months.  Besides, compared to Gmail, their
webmail interface and storage space is severely lacking.

Jayson Baker


On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon




 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?

On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
 There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
 example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you get
 all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)

 -Charles

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread Jon Auer
We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been flawless
for over a year.


On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote:
 I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

 What do folks say?

 I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to point
 configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

 I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see if I
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jayson Baker
The partner edition gives you migration capability, an API for integration
with a CRM, better support from Google, and some other things.
There were a couple other reasons we had to go partner, I don't recall them
all.  But at only 35c/mo/box, it's not bad.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?

 On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
  There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
  example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you
 get
  all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)
 
  -Charles
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Partner is ISP edition, right?

If so coming from the free edition you actually get support.  Free
does not offer support.

Thanks for sharing the 35c/user figure, heard a lot of it isn't free
talk but numbers.

On 6/26/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
 The partner edition gives you migration capability, an API for integration
 with a CRM, better support from Google, and some other things.
 There were a couple other reasons we had to go partner, I don't recall them
 all.  But at only 35c/mo/box, it's not bad.

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?

 On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
  There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
  example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you
 get
  all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)
 
  -Charles
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jayson Baker
Yes, ISP edition.

Another of the big points was with the paid version, you don't get any ads.
Obviously with the free version, you have a side full of ads (unless, of
course, you use IMAP/POP3).

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Partner is ISP edition, right?

 If so coming from the free edition you actually get support.  Free
 does not offer support.

 Thanks for sharing the 35c/user figure, heard a lot of it isn't free
 talk but numbers.

 On 6/26/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
  The partner edition gives you migration capability, an API for
 integration
  with a CRM, better support from Google, and some other things.
  There were a couple other reasons we had to go partner, I don't recall
 them
  all.  But at only 35c/mo/box, it's not bad.
 
  On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Josh Luthman
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
 
  Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?
 
  On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
   There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
   example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g.,
 you
  get
   all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)
  
   -Charles
  
   -Original Message-
   From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
   Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
   Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
  
   Hi All,
  
   What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for
 it's
   reliability, ease of use etc.
  
   Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
  catch
   things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.
  This
  has
   now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
  
   My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than
 to
   limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone
 rang
  off
   the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
  
   The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get
 (up
  to
   40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
   address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's
 not
  even
   mine (faked info).  sigh
  
   We use Courier MTA.
  
   My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per
 day
  per
   user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
   received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
  those
   sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
  from
   the server admins.
  
   Suggestions?
  
   laters,
   marlon
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread Jon Auer
You might want to check out the Tucows hosted email solution.
IIRC their price per box was a bit lower than Gmail.
They had a API, migration assistance, etc.
We looked at both and decided to keep rolling our own as it was
cheaper to pay someone to maintain than to outsource.

On 6/26/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote:
 The partner edition gives you migration capability, an API for integration
 with a CRM, better support from Google, and some other things.
 There were a couple other reasons we had to go partner, I don't recall them
 all.  But at only 35c/mo/box, it's not bad.

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Couldn't you just go to google.com/a and sign up yourself?

 On 6/26/09, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote:
  There are a bunch of companies that will outsource it for cheap -- for
  example...I know IKANO is reselling a branded gmail interface (e.g., you
 get
  all the functionality of Gmail and GApps but with your domain)
 
  -Charles
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:33 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone have NS2 in stock?

2009-06-26 Thread os10rules
Is that 12 NS's or PS's?


On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Jon Auer wrote:

 We have 12 deployed as outdoor Hotspot APs and they have been flawless
 for over a year.


 On 6/26/09, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote:
 I'm hearing to avoid the ns2 and go with the ps2/5. Less issues.

 What do folks say?

 I've been putting some decent load in both a hotspot and point to  
 point
 configuration configuration. It's worked flawlessly so far.

 I'm planning to do some pretty serious stress testing on it and see  
 if I
 can break it.



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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread RickG
Dead ones wont help in Iran :)
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Charles Wyblechar...@thewybles.com wrote:
 If your in Iran, you could probably use both.

 Josh Luthman wrote:
 We talking copper or Ubiquiti..?

 On 6/26/09, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 Anyone have some dead bullets they will sell? I am in need or 2 or 3 (mainly
 the
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Re: [WISPA] Bullets

2009-06-26 Thread RickG
Since they've only been out since December, I'd assume all Bullets are
still under manufacturers warranty?

But, while on the subject - Is it possible to get the end caps and plugs?

-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread RickG
Cost?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
 which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.

 It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not
 on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules
 put on the server.

 You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered outbound
 through something like this.    It can also be placed on alternate ports and
 using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly out.

 I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.

 ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
 authentication and filtering of outbound emails.




 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff



 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread RickG
I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
storms!!!
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

 We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
 the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
 address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
 accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
 grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
 out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as Gmail
 and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
 blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted them
 but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?  No
 more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of our
 trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
 reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
 of her incredimail.  YES!!!



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 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread RickG
How long have you been using them?
Has it worked out well?
-RickG

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Josh
Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I use Gmail for ISPs.  Minimal support.

 On 6/26/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

 We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
 the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
 address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
 accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
 grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
 out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as Gmail
 and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
 blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted them
 but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?  No
 more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of our
 trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
 reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
 of her incredimail.  YES!!!



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
I almost feel the same way too.
But a funny thing is, some of our customers like our email. It never has 
virus, and we have a spam filter provider that sends a daily quarantine 
report and those emails never make it to my server.
So for the most part, everything is great till we get blacklisted.
And a nice thing is, it's free advertising that you just can't buy.

When I see some of the emails people send to their groups cc'd and not 
bcc'd, and I see my domain in the bulk of those emails, I know other 
people do too that don't use my service.
When they get tired of poor support from their isp, like charter or 
qwest, they already know we are serving their friends and find their way 
to us.

We get a lot of word of mouth advertising that way.

RickG wrote:
 I have thought about this many times as well. I couldnt make a clean
 break so I practically keep it a secret that we offer it. They only
 get our email if they ask. Now, if we can drop the electrical
 storms!!!
 -RickG
 
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com 
 wrote:
 Email?  We don't need no stinkin' email!

 We gave up email hosting.  We were sending invoices via email and lots of
 the customers were never getting them because they never used the email
 address we gave them, they were mostly using Yahoo online!  The user
 accounts were jammed packed of just junk mail and such because they never
 grabbed mail from their box.  Well!  After some thought, we stopped giving
 out email addresses and giving them a list of free email sites such as Gmail
 and yahoo.  (In an effort to keep our prices as friendly as we can.
 blah, blah, blah.)  We grandfathered the existing users and hosted them
 but eventually they all moved to the free providers also.  So now what?  No
 more support calls on the email, I can tell ya that!  More than half of our
 trouble tickets went away.  I no longer have to recite to grandma how to
 reenter her user name and password just because the grandkids wiped it out
 of her incredimail.  YES!!!



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 11:33 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang off

 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not even

 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all those

 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-06-26 Thread George Rogato
Wonder how much it is.
Says it's based on qty of email addresses.



RickG wrote:
 Cost?
 
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Pat O'Connorp...@inlandnet.com wrote:
 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something called ASSP,
 which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.

 It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents anyone not
 on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall rules
 put on the server.

 You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered outbound
 through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate ports and
 using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail directly out.

 I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.

 ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
 authentication and filtering of outbound emails.




 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff



 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't
 catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This
 has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day
 per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
 messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon



 
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