Re: [WISPA] Has anyone used Mediacomm Fiber for their backbone?
I should say that only applies to transit, not transport. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/21/2010 11:25 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: I hope they do. It seems crazy they painted the USA with a wide brush in the contract. ATT is not within 90 miles of me. I can get ATT data lines, but it goes through many local telco loops on the way here. Scottie One of the cable companies I talked to a couple years ago said they couldn't resell to an ISP because of their contract with ATT forbid it. They were working to get out from under that. Christine Montalvo Senior Data Account Executive Mediacom Enterprise Networks Group 3737 Westown Parkway West Des Moines, Ia 50266 Office: 515-246-2251 Cell: 515-360-0015 Email: cmonta...@mediacomcc.commailto:cmonta...@mediacomcc.com - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/20/2010 11:52 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote: I have a connection to me across the state line that can be easily back hauled across the TN/KY line. In TN, the rural telco's rule the roost, and love to add on to the last mile charges . I have a tower that can easily reach into KY within 20 miles. Mediacomm has a tower within 16 miles that I can reach. I have asked them to price me bandwidth on fiber to their tower in KY, and the price to locate my back haul on their tower(their tower is almost 500' tall, so I can almost pick my area on that tower, if they allow). Have any of you guy's or gal's dealt with Mediacomm before? The problem is that I can't get a bandwidth quote, much less a tower quote out of them! I contacted them with a question of fiber availability and quickly got a response. Once I told them I was an ISP and wanted to back-haul it across the TN/KY border, everything went to a stand still. They had no problem quoting me bandwidth on fiber with a KY address about a year before. I also told them that I was an ISP in TN and my whole intentions of back hauling it. I am at a standstill with dealing with Mediacomm. Their pricing a few years ago, was much less than what I am paying now. I have repeatedly emailed the contact, and she has gotten back to me once in the last 2 months. The reply back was that she had been on vacation the week before and she was still awaiting pricing from the higher ups. She also told me the tower crew wanted to talk to me about what I wanted to mount on the tower...I told her the number to contact me at almost 2 weeks ago, and have not heard from them either. I guess my question is, have any of you dealt with Mediacomm before, and is my situation usual...or unusual? Scottie WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3?
I've found similar assistance going to Economic Development folks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/21/2010 11:32 PM, Robert West wrote: I've tried. Oh boy, have I tried! I look at every little telco farm along the road, cruise the railroad crossings looking for fiber, visit the county engineers office asking for maps of underground lines. Call the local telco/cable office, beat up the Time Warner guy or gal for info.. It's all one big ol' secret. OH! One county that I'm in, they have a guy whose only job is to HELP provide info for the betterment of business and to help the rural folk. His answer when I ask if he can find out fiber locations... His answer Wow, great idea! But... I dunno. End of conversation. Sucks. Me- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] What if you can't get a T3? Agreed. It amazes me how little people know about the telecommunications infrastructure in their area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/20/2010 5:57 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: I have been quietly watching this discussion I don't claim to be an expert, but being a wire line ISP, let me add / clarify some thoughts / facts T1 / T3 or DS3 / OC3 are all TDM / Legacy services T1, can be extended (long distance) via field repeaters... (T1's are based on HDSL technology and go about 12000ft from the CO or Repeater.) T3/DS3 are peeled off OC3 or Sonet (optical) MuxesThese are larger expensive pieces of equipment that require a lot of power and are fiber fed. While all of the legacy TDM services are regulated (i.e the price is disclosed on a tariff) but the ILEC is allowed to recover build out costs... these costs are high, in addition, the ILEC's are also aware that these High Cap transports are used by other Competitors and as such exercise full discretion on discouraging purchase of these circuits, by using extra inflated build out costs, and if you agree to pay that, then the 2nd option they use is extra extra long build out time schedule... 9 to 12 months easy. For Enterprise customers, they will do the build at no cost or little cost, but the Enterprise customer also has to provide them with space and power, typically 2-3 racks of space and 20-40 amps of power. Today, the ILEC's are not interested in doing such buildout, unless someone is buying SONET transport from them or a bundle of multiple DS3's / OC'3 combination, and there are a few more if's... The most cost effective form of transport that an ISP / WISP can purchase from a Carrier (ILEC or Cable Co or another type of provider) would be Ethernet .. 100Meg or Gig E While these are un-regulated services, which means an ILEC's can exercise their discretion on providing this type of service to you and I or another Carrier however in many places (typically office buildings in a metro downtown area) would have equipment / fiber already installed that they can deliver the service at that location. These days the local Cable Company who has been doing fiber build outs for their cable plants is also pretty eager to sell IP Transit or Ethernet Transport over the Fiber system.. Most of them are working on a pretty fair means of pricing the fiber service and will not discriminate against service providers... (most of them...) Another often overlooked fiber carrier is the local Power Company. Most power companies have a Fiber / Network Division they have been the largest providers of dark fiber for a lot of carriers (including cell carriers, when they cell carriers were not owned by the ILEC and the ILEC would not provide them high speed pipes to the cell towers..). But these folks are normally harder to track down unless they are aggressively selling services... I often collect Network Maps from carriers and competitive service providers, just to be able to find out what are On-Net locations for them... make life much easier in determining where to pickup the service from rather than having them do the buildout and bring them to where you are Hope this helps. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy InternetTelecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 7/20/2010 6:19 PM, RickG wrote: In my previous life as an ATT Cellular switch manager, we had hundreds of T1'sT3's ordered that never came in - yes, I mean never. And we practically had a blank check! -RickG On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmannkh...@fire2wire.com wrote: After about a year of getting the same response from ATT after multiple order requests at different locations across our
Re: [WISPA] IPPay
They've been very helpful. Great support department. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/23/2010 12:38 PM, RickG wrote: I need feedback on IPPay. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay
I think their web site has that list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/23/2010 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I would like to see a list of things that are ready to use IPPay out of the box. We use it with Powercode. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net mailto:d...@mvn.net wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:38, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I need feedback on IPPay. -RickG If you have the in-house development expertise to talk to their API, it probably would be wonderful. We couldn't use it here, because our old (and proprietary) billing system doesn't support it, and after several months their promised authorize.net-compatible interfaces never showed up. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Frontier
I'm wondering how they'll change as far as retail service levels and pricing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/23/2010 3:04 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: Being a WISP in an area where Frontier just took over the antiquated Verizon system, I was wondering if Frontier has a better agreement to resell their DSL then Verizon did. Anyone Know. Verizon was ~$32/month to me + modem for a service they were selling for $24.99 to clients. Steve Barnes General Manager RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPPay
Didn't even know they had a website. Here is the public list! http://ippay.com/index.php?q=certified_applications Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I think their web site has that list. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 7/23/2010 12:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I would like to see a list of things that are ready to use IPPay out of the box. We use it with Powercode. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:46 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:38, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I need feedback on IPPay. -RickG If you have the in-house development expertise to talk to their API, it probably would be wonderful. We couldn't use it here, because our old (and proprietary) billing system doesn't support it, and after several months their promised authorize.net-compatible interfaces never showed up. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Regional Meeting
Hi All, Thanks so much to all that came to the meeting! YOU all made this the success that it was! Forbes, I'm glad that the promotions committee was able to get this meeting moving forward. I'd wanted to do something like this for years now, it's always been a matter of time and money Finally the right guys were in the right place at the right time with the right resources! Thanks Rick. Your time and effort clearly made a huge difference in this event. Someone had to step up to the plate and handle the grunt work. I'm glad we were able to hire you to get this done. Great work! It was absolutely fantastic to see old friends and to finally meet some of the people I've known/worked with for years! I love the shows. I saw some pretty cool products there. What kind of cool things did you guys see in the way of vendors? Our keynote speakers were completely amazing! Laters, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
