Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murphy 
>From the conversation I've been assuming people were talking about the Airport 
>Express base station, as early on the comment was made that people were using 
>them to stream audio, and the Express is the item in the Airport family that 
>has that capability.  While it can be used in an access point/router mode, it 
>can also be setup as a wireless client when being used to stream audio or act 
>as a printserver.

-Chris


On 8/25/08 12:04 PM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

When I say "Airport" I'm talking about the cable/modem router. For some reason 
Apple seems to refer to the wireless Nics on the laptops as well as the AP's as 
an "Airport." (They are just in their own little world.) But in any case, I'm 
only talking about devices that do not behave as clients.
Pete M.




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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:14 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's


They don't interfere if they're a client on the network.

-Chris Murphy




On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:58 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they are on the same 
channel as the local AP they are going to interfere.
Pete M.




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To:   
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?  Given 
it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to stream audio, 
is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired routers to 
make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect does a pretty good 
job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP 
Phones etc?

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices that 
don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort using them 
strictly for their wireless speakers.

Pete Morrissey




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To:   WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what they call 
"NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does not match the 
gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the rogue router/AP) gets 
blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into the 
network through the port in your room, or be connected to the official campus 
wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not allowed (and 
don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the rogue wireless signal.

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which we also 
prohibit).

-Mike


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Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To:   WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also constantly tell 
people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging to control the rogues 
in our dorms.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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drywall mounting for Cisco Antennae

2008-08-25 Thread Jamie Savage 
Hi all,
We've just taken delivery of some Cisco APs (1252) and antennae 
(ant5140V and ant2430V).  The antennae came with mounting clips for a 
t-bar ceiling but one area we're working with is a drywalled ceiling and I 
don't see an easy way to mount these antennae to drywall (unless I'm 
missing something obvious).  Has anyone else dealt with this 
issueie...is there a 3rd party kit available?

any suggestions are greatly appreciated..thx in 
advanceJ


James Savage   York University 
Senior Communications Tech.   108 Steacie Building
[EMAIL PROTECTED]4700 Keele Street
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fax: 416-736-5701M3J 1P3, CANADA 

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Julian Y. Koh 
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>When I say "Airport" I'm talking about the cable/modem router. For
>some reason Apple seems to refer to the wireless Nics on the laptops as
>well as the AP's as an "Airport." (They are just in their own little
>world.)

"Airport" in Apple parlance is a brand name refers to the 802.11 wireless
technology in general.  The base stations all have specific names, like
Airport Express and Airport Extreme.  Hosts are usually referred to as
Airport clients or Airport cards (legacy from when they actually were
little PC cards that were installed in machines).

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Peter P Morrissey 
When I say "Airport" I'm talking about the cable/modem router. For some
reason Apple seems to refer to the wireless Nics on the laptops as well
as the AP's as an "Airport." (They are just in their own little world.)
But in any case, I'm only talking about devices that do not behave as
clients.

Pete M.

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:14 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

They don't interfere if they're a client on the network. 

-Chris Murphy

 


On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:58 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they
are on the same channel as the local AP they are going to interfere.

Pete M.

 





From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the
Airport?  Given it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode
when used to stream audio, is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow
wired routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know
SafeConnect does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do
you deal with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?
 
The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless
devices that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an
AirPort using them strictly for their wireless speakers.
 
Pete Morrissey
 





From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using
what they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer
does not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device
 
To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly
into the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are
not allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.
 
This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers
(which we also prohibit).
 
-Mike
 

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.
 
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread DAVID R. MORTON 
Lee,

What do you mean by noisemakers only? Is the issue that they show up on 
"non-standard" channels and thus may interfere with two "standard" channels?

David


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On 8/24/08 2:11 PM, "Lee H Badman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It gets more complicated- many of the latest rogues this year are noisemakers 
only- interfering devices not on the wire that flag themselves as wireless APs. 
We have tried and continue to try all sorts of tactics...


Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003



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Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:51 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

We have seen the problem as well and don't have a definitive answer. However, 
we are a Meru/Foundry wireless shop and there is built in rouge 
detection/mitigation and are in discussion on implementing. I think most 
controller based solutions have features/options like this. and there are 3rd 
party platforms designed specifically for it.

I don't think any of the solutions are fully mature yet so you probably have to 
come up with a creative combination solution NAC/network port security/wireless 
rouge detection/etc




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Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also constantly tell 
people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging to control the rogues 
in our dorms.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murphy 
They don't interfere if they're a client on the network.

-Chris Murphy


On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:58 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they are on the same 
channel as the local AP they are going to interfere.
Pete M.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To:  
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?  Given 
it’s 802.11 based and doesn’t need to run in AP mode when used to stream audio, 
is there some other problem you’re seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired routers to 
make games, Tivo’s, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect does a pretty good 
job ID’ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal with Tivo’s, Slingboxes, IP 
Phones etc?

The other challenge we’re having is that we are seeing wireless devices that 
don’t use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort using them 
strictly for their wireless speakers.

Pete Morrissey



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To:  
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP’s by using what they call 
“NAT Detection”. If the gateway of the students computer does not match the 
gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the rogue router/AP) gets 
blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into the 
network through the port in your room, or be connected to the official campus 
wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:
….
=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not allowed (and 
don’t work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the rogue wireless signal.

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which we also 
prohibit).

-Mike


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To:  
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP’s?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also constantly tell 
people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging to control the rogues 
in our dorms.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] UT Austin Wireless Usage Report

2008-08-25 Thread Barber, Matt 
Hi William,

Thank you very much for this.  The report is very fascinating to look
through.  

I would also love to see this kind of information from any other places
that have it.  I wish I had the time to do that kind of analysis of our
network.  

Thanks,

Matt Barber
Network Analyst / PC Support
Morrisville State College
315-684-6053


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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:47 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] UT Austin Wireless Usage Report

For those interested in wireless usage at other campuses-- we just 
completed our Spring 2008 study:

https://webspace.utexas.edu/xythoswfs/webview/_xy-15536153_docstore1 
(temporary)
http://www.utexas.edu/its/network/reports.php (permanent and 
previous reports)

Summary:  There were 8 million connect hours in Spring 2008 (64% 
increase from '07).  The trend is toward more frequent sessions and 
longer sessions (30% increase in an average user's connections, 26% 
increase in mean connection time).16K unique users during a day, 
with 8K peak simultaneous users (not in report). Number of unique 
users decreased 2.2% (possibly due to a reporting issue -- 4% of data 
didn't make it to the analysis).

As always, I'd like to hear about other institution's wireless usage. 
Especially if anyone has reports on how/why people are using 
wireless.   It will be interesting to see what devices like the 
iPhone will do to operations...

Sorry, the heat map is a custom app and not available.


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Scholz, Greg 
Any idea if these types of devices may allow computers to "connect" to
them as ad-hocs? In effect black-holing them?

 

_

Thank you,

Gregory R. Scholz

Director of Telecommunications

Information Technology Group

Keene State College

(603)358-2070

 

--Lead, follow, or get out of the way. 

(author unknown)

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:55 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Just that they show up overpowered, all over the place for channels...

 

Lee H. Badman

Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Syracuse University

315 443-3003



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?
Given it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to
stream audio, is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?
 
The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.
 
Pete Morrissey
 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device
 
To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.
 
This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).
 
-Mike
 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.
 
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Peter P Morrissey 
The problem is they still interfere at the radio level. If they are on
the same channel as the local AP they are going to interfere.

Pete M.

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?
Given it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to
stream audio, is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?
 
The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.
 
Pete Morrissey
 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device
 
To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.
 
This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).
 
-Mike
 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.
 
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Lee H Badman 
Just that they show up overpowered, all over the place for channels...
 
Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:42 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's
 
Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?
Given it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to
stream audio, is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?
 
The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.
 
Pete Morrissey
 


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device
 
To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.
 
This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).
 
-Mike
 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.
 
Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Chris Murphy 
Is there some particular issue you have with devices like the Airport?  Given 
it's 802.11 based and doesn't need to run in AP mode when used to stream audio, 
is there some other problem you're seeing?

-Chris Murphy


On 8/25/08 8:40 AM, "Peter P Morrissey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired routers to 
make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect does a pretty good 
job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP 
Phones etc?

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices that 
don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort using them 
strictly for their wireless speakers.

Pete Morrissey




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what they call 
"NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does not match the 
gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the rogue router/AP) gets 
blocked with a message stating the following:
=
You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into the 
network through the port in your room, or be connected to the official campus 
wireless network.
The official Gordon wireless networks include:

=
The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not allowed (and 
don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the rogue wireless signal.

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which we also 
prohibit).

-Mike


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?
Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?
We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also constantly tell 
people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging to control the rogues 
in our dorms.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Mike Binns 
The first paragraph on my other response speaks to tivos/slingboxes, and
ip phones (you mean wired right?)

 

It is your choice to make, if you want to allow wireless speakers over
802.1x you will have to deal with the interference, if you want to stop
it, you will probably have to physically track down the offender and
force them to stop it as any technical solution will have them
broadcasting still and you disconnecting users, which will still cause
interference.

 

-Mike

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:17 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

What about the Tivos, Slingboxes, IPPhones?

 

I don't see the hidden SSID as a solution. We are concerned with the
radio interference.

 

Pete M.

 

 

 

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:45 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

On the issue of games, Tivos, etc... where they need additional network
ports, we require that they use a regular dumb switch/hub (which we have
"approved"), nothing with routing involved. This way they each have a
legitimate IP on our network.

 

As far as non-network connected wireless, we have not seen these yet. I
am not sure what our policy would/will be yet. Maybe help them set up a
hidden SSID?

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:40 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?

 

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.

 

Pete Morrissey

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:

=

You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

 

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.

The official Gordon wireless networks include:



=

The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.

 

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?

Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?

We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.

 

Pete Morrissey

Syracuse University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Peter P Morrissey 
What about the Tivos, Slingboxes, IPPhones?

 

I don't see the hidden SSID as a solution. We are concerned with the
radio interference.

 

Pete M.

 

 

 

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:45 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

On the issue of games, Tivos, etc... where they need additional network
ports, we require that they use a regular dumb switch/hub (which we have
"approved"), nothing with routing involved. This way they each have a
legitimate IP on our network.

 

As far as non-network connected wireless, we have not seen these yet. I
am not sure what our policy would/will be yet. Maybe help them set up a
hidden SSID?

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:40 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?

 

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.

 

Pete Morrissey

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:

=

You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

 

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.

The official Gordon wireless networks include:



=

The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.

 

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?

Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?

We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.

 

Pete Morrissey

Syracuse University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Mike Binns 
On the issue of games, Tivos, etc... where they need additional network
ports, we require that they use a regular dumb switch/hub (which we have
"approved"), nothing with routing involved. This way they each have a
legitimate IP on our network.

 

As far as non-network connected wireless, we have not seen these yet. I
am not sure what our policy would/will be yet. Maybe help them set up a
hidden SSID?

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:40 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?

 

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.

 

Pete Morrissey

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:

=

You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

 

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.

The official Gordon wireless networks include:



=

The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.

 

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?

Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?

We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.

 

Pete Morrissey

Syracuse University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Peter P Morrissey 
Thanks Mike. We have SafeConnect. The difference is we allow wired
routers to make games, Tivo's, Clingboxes easier. I know SafeConnect
does a pretty good job ID'ng a lot of the games, but how do you deal
with Tivo's, Slingboxes, IP Phones etc?

 

The other challenge we're having is that we are seeing wireless devices
that don't use the wired Ethernet. Today we had someone with an AirPort
using them strictly for their wireless speakers.

 

Pete Morrissey

 



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Binns
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:24 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:

=

You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

 

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.

The official Gordon wireless networks include:



=

The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.

 

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?

Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?

We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.

 

Pete Morrissey

Syracuse University

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

2008-08-25 Thread Mike Binns 
Our NAC system, Impulse SafeConnect, detects rogue AP's by using what
they call "NAT Detection". If the gateway of the students computer does
not match the gateway of the network, their IP (external one of the
rogue router/AP) gets blocked with a message stating the following:

=

You are connected to the network through an unapproved device

 

To connect to the Gordon college network, you must plug directly into
the network through the port in your room, or be connected to the
official campus wireless network.

The official Gordon wireless networks include:



=

The students see this message, and learn that the devices are not
allowed (and don't work), they then unplug them, getting rid of the
rogue wireless signal.

 

This has eliminated not only wireless rogues, but wired routers (which
we also prohibit).

 

-Mike

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter P
Morrissey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Roque AP's

 

Has anyone had any success dealing with Rogue AP's?

Is anyone else seeing a lot of them this year?

We have 100% coverage in the dorms, and advertise this. We also
constantly tell people not to put up rogues, but it is very challenging
to control the rogues in our dorms.

 

Pete Morrissey

Syracuse University

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