RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Major WLAN/mobile projectcs coming online for Fall '13? Just wondering...
As far as .11ac, I don't see us involved for another year at least. Waiting for .11ac laptops/tablets/smartphones to sell the inbedded chipset first. MDM is key, looking for a product that protects mobile as well as laptop/tablets Malware policies for users. Handle this via our NAC. We are using mDNS via our wireless WLAN. Students register their own device(s) and depending on which one, they get pushed to production or secondary VLAN(s) Nutshell version, russ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of j...@nww.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:20 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Major WLAN/mobile projectcs coming online for Fall '13? Just wondering... It would be interesting - to me at least! - to see if there are any commonalities in Education IT priorities for the new academic year. 11ac exploration? Improved mobile device management? New user policies? Bonjour/Apple TV etc? In keeping with the Listserv policies, this query is NOT for a story that I plan to write. For me as a reporter, it's food for thought, which could eventually generate a story idea. Regards, John Cox Senior Editor Network World 492 Old Connecticut Path Framingham, MA 01701 USA Direct: 978-834-0554 HQ reception: 508-766-5301 john_...@nww.commailto:john_...@nww.com www.networkworld.comhttp://www.networkworld.com/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
[Off-Topic] Computer Labs
We have a new Liberal Arts building that is currently in construction. The floor plans aren't quite nailed down yet but there was something on the current plans that made me wonder. There's no less than six computer labs in the building. Seeing that we make all of our Freshmen buy iPads and that laptops are super cheap nowadays, I was wondering just how useful computer labs are now/will be in the next two years or so. Getting rid of most or all of those labs would cut down on costs considerably. I've heard of some colleges dumping computer labs as they seem to be needed less and less as users have more and more tech available cheaply. What's your take? Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Major WLAN/mobile projectcs coming online for Fall '13? Just wondering...
Thanks, Russ. Given that you don't have the MDM product you'd like right nowdo you run separate management systems for smartphones vs laptops/tablets? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Russ Leathe Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:39 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Major WLAN/mobile projectcs coming online for Fall '13? Just wondering... As far as .11ac, I don't see us involved for another year at least. Waiting for .11ac laptops/tablets/smartphones to sell the inbedded chipset first. MDM is key, looking for a product that protects mobile as well as laptop/tablets Malware policies for users. Handle this via our NAC. We are using mDNS via our wireless WLAN. Students register their own device(s) and depending on which one, they get pushed to production or secondary VLAN(s) Nutshell version, russ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of j...@nww.commailto:j...@nww.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:20 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Major WLAN/mobile projectcs coming online for Fall '13? Just wondering... It would be interesting - to me at least! - to see if there are any commonalities in Education IT priorities for the new academic year. 11ac exploration? Improved mobile device management? New user policies? Bonjour/Apple TV etc? In keeping with the Listserv policies, this query is NOT for a story that I plan to write. For me as a reporter, it's food for thought, which could eventually generate a story idea. Regards, John Cox Senior Editor Network World 492 Old Connecticut Path Framingham, MA 01701 USA Direct: 978-834-0554 HQ reception: 508-766-5301 john_...@nww.commailto:john_...@nww.com www.networkworld.comhttp://www.networkworld.com/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Off-Topic] Computer Labs
On Aug 21, 2013, at 15:56 , Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu wrote: I was wondering just how useful computer labs are now/will be in the next two years or so. Getting rid of most or all of those labs would cut down on costs considerably. I've heard of some colleges dumping computer labs as they seem to be needed less and less as users have more and more tech available cheaply. What's your take? We definitely have fewer computer labs on campus than we used to. Even for some applications that traditionally required high horsepower computers run fine on today's laptops. Generally labs now are not run by central IT so much as by individual schools and departments that have specialized needs. Sometimes the need for a lab is driven not by specialized hardware needs but by software licensing restrictions. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [Off-Topic] Computer Labs
Here at Temple University we centralized computer labs. We used to have countless small labs in each School or College scattered across our campuses. We opened a 700 computer lab with all software and access for all majors and shutdown nearly all of those smaller labs. http://www.temple.edu/cs/techcenter/ There are certain specialty rooms (recording booths or the video production room), but the bulk of the lab enables all majors to come and work together. Last I heard a statistic it was pumping through ~8,000 students a day. We do network maintenance at midnight and the lab is still packed at that hour. It's as much a social gathering place as a place of study with several break out rooms for collaboration. I think it's pretty awesome. By all measures here, it has been wildly successful. Adam
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Off-Topic] Computer Labs
We're doing a fair amount of application virtualization so students can access many of those licensed applications from their laptops (or other mobile devices) without needing to come to a physical computer lab. Joe Rogers University of South Florida On 08/21/2013 05:06 PM, Julian Y Koh wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 15:56 , Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu wrote: I was wondering just how useful computer labs are now/will be in the next two years or so. Getting rid of most or all of those labs would cut down on costs considerably. I've heard of some colleges dumping computer labs as they seem to be needed less and less as users have more and more tech available cheaply. What's your take? We definitely have fewer computer labs on campus than we used to. Even for some applications that traditionally required high horsepower computers run fine on today's laptops. Generally labs now are not run by central IT so much as by individual schools and departments that have specialized needs. Sometimes the need for a lab is driven not by specialized hardware needs but by software licensing restrictions. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Off-Topic] Computer Labs
At Old Dominion University (my previous employer) we went to a combination of a few central labs, a virtual computer lab, and a learning commons area. The students really embraced the learning commons which included configurable furniture with power outlets, group meeting rooms with TVs/projectors, printers that were accessible wirelessly, as well as some computer stations. Most students opted to just bring their own laptops or tablets and then used our power, wi-fi, printers, and tvs/monitors and were very happy with the setup. In most of the new academic buildings going up rather than providing dedicated labs the decision was made to offer more learning commons spaces. I really see this as the future of the university computer lab -- offering an comfortable area for students to work on their own laptops/tablets while being able to utilize university resources and meeting spaces. http://www.odu.edu/learningcommons/ Josh Robertson Sr. Wireless Engineer / InfoSecurity Admin Denver Public Schools Department of Technology Services (720)423-3675 To open a new support call, please call the DoTS Hotline at 720-423-3888 On 8/21/13 2:56 PM, Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu wrote: We have a new Liberal Arts building that is currently in construction. The floor plans aren't quite nailed down yet but there was something on the current plans that made me wonder. There's no less than six computer labs in the building. Seeing that we make all of our Freshmen buy iPads and that laptops are super cheap nowadays, I was wondering just how useful computer labs are now/will be in the next two years or so. Getting rid of most or all of those labs would cut down on costs considerably. I've heard of some colleges dumping computer labs as they seem to be needed less and less as users have more and more tech available cheaply. What's your take? Regards, Eric Barnett Senior Network Engineer/Wireless Administrator Information and Technology Services Arkansas State University (870) 680-4243 http://wireless.astate.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Off-Topic] Computer Labs
I had a group of first year students over for a hosted dinner tonight, and actually brought this subject up to them, as well as the upperclassman advisors. Every one of them felt the labs were valuable (or would be, for the first years), in that there are many software packages that are licensed to the university, but cost prohibitive for the students (matlab, etc). They felt the labs in the residential colleges, plus a few others around our Rice campus, were a very valuable resource, used by most of the students at some point, and appreciated. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Julian Y Koh Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:07 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [Off-Topic] Computer Labs On Aug 21, 2013, at 15:56 , Eric T. Barnett ebarn...@astate.edu wrote: I was wondering just how useful computer labs are now/will be in the next two years or so. Getting rid of most or all of those labs would cut down on costs considerably. I've heard of some colleges dumping computer labs as they seem to be needed less and less as users have more and more tech available cheaply. What's your take? We definitely have fewer computer labs on campus than we used to. Even for some applications that traditionally required high horsepower computers run fine on today's laptops. Generally labs now are not run by central IT so much as by individual schools and departments that have specialized needs. Sometimes the need for a lab is driven not by specialized hardware needs but by software licensing restrictions. -- Julian Y. Koh Acting Associate Director, Telecommunications and Network Services Northwestern University Information Technology (NUIT) 2001 Sheridan Road #G-166 Evanston, IL 60208 847-467-5780 NUIT Web Site: http://www.it.northwestern.edu/ PGP Public Key:http://bt.ittns.northwestern.edu/julian/pgppubkey.html ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. !DSPAM:911,52152bf0187601041714445! ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
