You mean something that maybe is limited to iOS, and is based off of bluetooth
rather than wifi, making it unaffected by the MAC address scrambling, while
all of the vendor agnostic wifi centric solutions are crippled? Something
kinda like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBeacon
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Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong.
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On 06/12/2014 08:19 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
Is interesting theory. I'll let my snark shine, and say that I can't imagine Apple doing
this for any other reason than to somehow further their profits (maybe by making
something weird happen for location services that is only solved by using one
of their other products or a partner solution) rather than any sort of Wireless Good
Neighborism.
-Lee Badman
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The reverse engineering side of me wonders why they would do this, if this is
even (or becomes) the case.
I know we have always criticized Apple for the issues with roaming. Perhaps
they wanted to implement an algorithm that would continuously collect all the
AP information and roam to the AP with the best signal strength/quality?
Damien Cameron
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Norfolk State University
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The non-random (burned-in) MAC was used for both broadcast and specific SSIDs.
If anyone is interested I can send them the .pcap file.
Eric J. Kenny
Network Security Engineer
Marist College
3399 North Rd.
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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Did you see the non-random MAC address in broadcast SSID probe requests, or
only in SSID specific ones? My impression is that the randomization would only
be performed in broadcast probes.
Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu| For every problem, there is a solution that
Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong.
Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken
On 6/10/2014 9:12 AM, Eric Kenny wrote:
I can confirm that my iPhone 5s with iOS 8 beta does NOT randomize the
MAC address in probe requests. This was determined by capturing and
analyzing the probe request frames.
Thanks,
Eric J. Kenny
Network Security Engineer
Marist College
3399 North Rd.
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
845.575.3820
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From what I can tell, they're only randomizing the MAC address on
probe requests. It appears to still use the burned in MAC address for
association and all subsequent traffic.
That said, I'd love for someone with an iOS 8 device and a suitable
wireless sniffer rig to confirm this guess =)
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that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong.
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On 06/10/2014 08:54 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
#8203;For historical tracking, could be pretty rough especially
when individual
users have multiple devices.
*Lee H. Badman*
Network Architect/Wireless TME
ITS, Syracuse University
315.443.3003
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] iOS8 and randomized mac addresses
I h ave the first beta of iOS 8 installed on my iPhone 5s and it
does not
appear to randomize the MAC address, nor are there any visible
