RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-27 Thread Phill Solomon
Here in Melbourne,

We have 5.0.148 getting ready to go into production but there is tension
about bug CSCsm98250 (5.0 Webauth stops working under load). 

We have not run into this yet but we also have no load on (yet).

Has any experienced this? Does the controller stop or just management?

Thanks

Phill Solomon

Network Engineering Team - Infrastructure Information Services
University of Melbourne

Phone 834 48804   Fax 8344 2765[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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T
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 4:33 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

Steve,

 

I haven't seen this symptom yet - you should open a TAC case.

 

I did see something like you describe when I changed the User Idle
Timeout to a larger value (43200, or 12 hours) in an attempt to prevent
premature deauthentication of systems that have not been active.

 

Once I set it 300 back things were fine again.  TAC informed me of the
bug below.

 

CSCsl51486 Bug Details 

Top of Form

EW : Client not able to join when User idle timeout set to max value 

Symptom:
Clients are disassociated immediately if User Idle Timeout is set to
more than 65,535 seconds.
Conditions:
There are no specific conditions.
Workaround:
Avoid setting Idle Timeout to greater than 65,535 seconds. 

 

Bottom of Form

4.2 WLC Idle-Timeout values can cause clients to not associate 

Symptom: Depending on which idle-timeout value is configured on the
controller, it can prevent clients from assoicating to the WLAN. In
customer testing, the values that do not work apprear to random.
Although range stil states that 90 - 10 is valid, Dmitry said 86400
is the actual maximum in 4.2. Need that verifed as well. 86400 does work
as does 32768, but 32769 does not for example. Attached debugs show
client passes L2 authentication and gets IP. WLC does a gratuitous ARP
and then one second later show idle-timeout and disconnects the client.
Client shows it is still connected and retains its IP so it also appears
the AP does not send the de-auth. Conditions: Workaround: Change
idle-timeout value to something that works like 86400 Further Problem
Description: 

 



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:00 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Yes. the problem started with v4.1.171.0 after about one year of
stability on the dos/arp storm workaround. We use stand alone 4402. DHCP
is set as required. We are only using lwaps. I looked at v5.0 as
documentation that seemed to suggest resolution  for most of the known
bugs -then found out that release was not compatible with our 1000
series ap's. prior to install. Cisco engineering also suggested waiting
to deploy that release but that was mute due to the hardware
incompatibly.

Only one full controller crash generating a log. The system hangs
preventing authentication and existing authenticated users are impacted.
Seems like a denial of service between the clients and ap's but that was
supposed to be fixed after 4.1.171.0. I have tried several configuration
changes and have a couple of tac requests in process with cisco.

What are you experiencing ?

Steve

Johnson, Bruce T wrote: 

Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several
WiSM-based controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot the
controllers?

 

Thanks,

 

*

Bruce T. Johnson

Network Engineer

Partners Healthcare

617-726-9662

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability. 
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code
leaving many of us with a large and costly legacy system in place.

I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the
Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability... 





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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Hector J Rios
Last time I asked a Cisco engineer I was told to wait. 

 

Hector

 

 

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:50 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi,

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.

 

Regards,

 

Peter.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Whitson
Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and 
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability.
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access 
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with 
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and 
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code 
leaving many of us with a large and /*costly */legacy system in place.


I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the 
Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points 
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing 
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at 
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability...


Steve

Peter Arbouin wrote:

Hi,
 
I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.
 
Regards,
 
Peter.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Whitson
Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and 
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability.
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access 
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with 
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and 
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code 
leaving many of us with a large and /*costly */legacy system in place.


I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the 
Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points 
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing 
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at 
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability...


--
Steve Whitson
Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Peter Arbouin wrote:

Hi,
 
I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.
 
Regards,
 
Peter.
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several WiSM-based
controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot the controllers?

 

Thanks,

 

*

Bruce T. Johnson

Network Engineer

Partners Healthcare

617-726-9662

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

**



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and wanted to
migrate to V5.0 for more stability. 
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access Points.
The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with controller
software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and above. It looked like
there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code leaving many of us with a large
and costly legacy system in place.

I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the Cisco
4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points however, I just noted
that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware
certified however. I am now looking at v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability... 




-- 
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Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Peter Arbouin wrote: 

Hi,

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 5.0 as we
are considering upgrading.

 

Regards,

 

Peter.

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Lee H Badman
And I also wonder- are these 6500s also routing, or just hosting the
WiSMs at layer 2?
 
Thanks-
 
Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003


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T
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:28 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?
 
Hey Steve,
 
Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several
WiSM-based controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot the
controllers?
 
Thanks,
 
*
Bruce T. Johnson
Network Engineer
Partners Healthcare
617-726-9662
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
**


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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?
 
Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability. 
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code
leaving many of us with a large and costly legacy system in place.

I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the
Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability... 


-- 
 Steve Whitson
Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Peter Arbouin wrote: 
Hi,
 
I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.
 
Regards,
 
Peter.
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Whitson
Yes. the problem started with v4.1.171.0 after about one year of 
stability on the dos/arp storm workaround. We use stand alone 4402. DHCP 
is set as required. We are only using lwaps. I looked at v5.0 as 
documentation that seemed to suggest resolution  for most of the known 
bugs -then found out that release was not compatible with our 1000 
series ap's. prior to install. Cisco engineering also suggested waiting 
to deploy that release but that was mute due to the hardware incompatibly.


Only one full controller crash generating a log. The system hangs 
preventing authentication and existing authenticated users are impacted. 
Seems like a denial of service between the clients and ap's but that was 
supposed to be fixed after 4.1.171.0. I have tried several configuration 
changes and have a couple of tac requests in process with cisco.


What are you experiencing ?

Steve

Johnson, Bruce T wrote:


Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several 
WiSM-based controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot 
the controllers?


 


Thanks,

 


/*/

/Bruce T. Johnson/

/Network Engineer/

/Partners Healthcare/

/617-726-9662/

/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

/**/



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steve Whitson

*Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and 
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability.
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access 
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with 
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and 
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code 
leaving many of us with a large and */costly /*legacy system in place.


I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on 
the Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points 
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing 
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at 
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability...



--
 Steve Whitson
Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Peter Arbouin wrote:

Hi,

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.


 


Regards,

 


Peter.

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Steve Whitson
Lee lwap transport mode is layer 3 No blades -stand alone 4402 and 
system loads are not /*really*/ that high at 440 wireless clients.


Steve

Lee H Badman wrote:


And I also wonder- are these 6500s also routing, or just hosting the 
WiSMs at layer 2?


 


Thanks-

 


Lee H. Badman

Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Syracuse University

315 443-3003



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*Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:28 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 


Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several 
WiSM-based controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot 
the controllers?


 


Thanks,

 


/*/

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/Network Engineer/

/Partners Healthcare/

/617-726-9662/

/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

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*Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and 
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability.
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access 
Points. The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with 
controller software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and 
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code 
leaving many of us with a large and */costly /*legacy system in place.


I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on 
the Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points 
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing 
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at 
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability...


--
 Steve Whitson
Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Peter Arbouin wrote:

Hi,

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 
5.0 as we are considering upgrading.


 


Regards,

 


Peter.

** Participation and subscription information for this 
EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at 
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

2008-03-25 Thread Johnson, Bruce T
Steve,

 

I haven't seen this symptom yet - you should open a TAC case.

 

I did see something like you describe when I changed the User Idle Timeout to a
larger value (43200, or 12 hours) in an attempt to prevent premature
deauthentication of systems that have not been active.

 

Once I set it 300 back things were fine again.  TAC informed me of the bug
below.

 

CSCsl51486 Bug Details 

Top of Form

EW : Client not able to join when User idle timeout set to max value 

Symptom:
Clients are disassociated immediately if User Idle Timeout is set to more than
65,535 seconds.
Conditions:
There are no specific conditions.
Workaround:
Avoid setting Idle Timeout to greater than 65,535 seconds. 

 

Bottom of Form

4.2 WLC Idle-Timeout values can cause clients to not associate 

Symptom: Depending on which idle-timeout value is configured on the controller,
it can prevent clients from assoicating to the WLAN. In customer testing, the
values that do not work apprear to random. Although range stil states that 90 -
10 is valid, Dmitry said 86400 is the actual maximum in 4.2. Need that
verifed as well. 86400 does work as does 32768, but 32769 does not for example.
Attached debugs show client passes L2 authentication and gets IP. WLC does a
gratuitous ARP and then one second later show idle-timeout and disconnects the
client. Client shows it is still connected and retains its IP so it also appears
the AP does not send the de-auth. Conditions: Workaround: Change idle-timeout
value to something that works like 86400 Further Problem Description: 

 



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:00 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Yes. the problem started with v4.1.171.0 after about one year of stability on
the dos/arp storm workaround. We use stand alone 4402. DHCP is set as required.
We are only using lwaps. I looked at v5.0 as documentation that seemed to
suggest resolution  for most of the known bugs -then found out that release was
not compatible with our 1000 series ap's. prior to install. Cisco engineering
also suggested waiting to deploy that release but that was mute due to the
hardware incompatibly.

Only one full controller crash generating a log. The system hangs preventing
authentication and existing authenticated users are impacted. Seems like a
denial of service between the clients and ap's but that was supposed to be fixed
after 4.1.171.0. I have tried several configuration changes and have a couple of
tac requests in process with cisco.

What are you experiencing ?

Steve

Johnson, Bruce T wrote: 

Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several WiSM-based
controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot the controllers?

 

Thanks,

 

*

Bruce T. Johnson

Network Engineer

Partners Healthcare

617-726-9662

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Whitson
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and wanted to
migrate to V5.0 for more stability. 
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access Points.
The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with controller
software release 5.0.148.0.  Must use 1130 series AP and above. It looked like
there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code leaving many of us with a large
and costly legacy system in place.

I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the Cisco
4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points however, I just noted
that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware
certified however. I am now looking at v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability... 





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 Steve Whitson
Network / Telecom Administrator
Educational Technology Services
California College of the Arts
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Peter Arbouin wrote: 

Hi,

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has upgraded to version 5.0 as we
are considering upgrading.

 

Regards,

 

Peter.

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