RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses
We partnered with all our local municipal transportation services to implement NextBus (http://nextbus.com) route information technology. NextBus uses GPS and 3G backhaul to provide location and arrival time information that is accessible by the web, SMS, and voice. On our campus buses (Cambus) we are rolling out Wi-Fi service (it's an option NextBus offers). It just went live this fall, so we don't have a lot of feedback yet. It will be separate SSID from our regular campus wireless service. Our website is http://ebongo.org (Bongo is short for Bus on the go). -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer Information Technology Services The University of Iowa 319 384-0938 neil-john...@uiowa.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:33 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses When we looked into it, the bus company wasn't interested as they can't do every bus and rotate the busses that get used on campus. Also, our commutes are pretty short in general. And... The growing number of smartphones does make it less interesting of an idea. -Lee Badman From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Randall C Grimshaw [rgrim...@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses There was a similar thread some time ago regarding wi-fi on the busses for sports teams. I was hoping that someone would chime in... but the gist was that there are cellular routers with more than one usb/card slot that provide automatic failover - and you have two (or three) carriers. I would think that you sort the carriers in the queue in some reasonable way to reduce costs/risk/load. Randy From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses We were asked to look into it but never did it. I don't know of any other way to provide the service but to do WiFi router with a cellular back-haul, like you said. And just specify it is best effort. I think that's the best you can do. Unless you want to beef up the cell coverage with DAS, but then your costs start increasing. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses Hi, We have two main campuses with a regularly scheduled shuttle bus running between the two. We've been asked to look into providing WiFi service on this bus. It appears the solution is a WiFi router with a cellular back-haul (3G?). If anyone is doing this I'd appreciate any comments as I see a number of issues..spotty cellular along the route (ie. service disclaimer required),, user density vs. available bandwidth (Netflix!!)etc. thanks in advance...J James Savage York University Senior Communications Tech. 108 Steacie Building jsav...@yorku.camailto:jsav...@yorku.ca 4700 Keele Street ph: 416-736-2100 ext. 22605Toronto, Ontario fax: 416-736-5830M3J 1P3, CANADA ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses
We were asked to look into it but never did it. I don't know of any other way to provide the service but to do WiFi router with a cellular back-haul, like you said. And just specify it is best effort. I think that's the best you can do. Unless you want to beef up the cell coverage with DAS, but then your costs start increasing. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses Hi, We have two main campuses with a regularly scheduled shuttle bus running between the two. We've been asked to look into providing WiFi service on this bus. It appears the solution is a WiFi router with a cellular back-haul (3G?). If anyone is doing this I'd appreciate any comments as I see a number of issues..spotty cellular along the route (ie. service disclaimer required),, user density vs. available bandwidth (Netflix!!)etc. thanks in advance...J James Savage York University Senior Communications Tech. 108 Steacie Building jsav...@yorku.ca4700 Keele Street ph: 416-736-2100 ext. 22605Toronto, Ontario fax: 416-736-5830M3J 1P3, CANADA ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses
When we looked into it, the bus company wasn't interested as they can't do every bus and rotate the busses that get used on campus. Also, our commutes are pretty short in general. And... The growing number of smartphones does make it less interesting of an idea. -Lee Badman From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Randall C Grimshaw [rgrim...@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses There was a similar thread some time ago regarding wi-fi on the busses for sports teams. I was hoping that someone would chime in… but the gist was that there are cellular routers with more than one usb/card slot that provide automatic failover – and you have two (or three) carriers. I would think that you sort the carriers in the queue in some reasonable way to reduce costs/risk/load. Randy From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:07 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses We were asked to look into it but never did it. I don't know of any other way to provide the service but to do WiFi router with a cellular back-haul, like you said. And just specify it is best effort. I think that's the best you can do. Unless you want to beef up the cell coverage with DAS, but then your costs start increasing. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jamie Savage Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:44 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WiFi on campus buses Hi, We have two main campuses with a regularly scheduled shuttle bus running between the two. We've been asked to look into providing WiFi service on this bus. It appears the solution is a WiFi router with a cellular back-haul (3G?). If anyone is doing this I'd appreciate any comments as I see a number of issues..spotty cellular along the route (ie. service disclaimer required),, user density vs. available bandwidth (Netflix!!)etc. thanks in advance...J James Savage York University Senior Communications Tech. 108 Steacie Building jsav...@yorku.camailto:jsav...@yorku.ca4700 Keele Street ph: 416-736-2100 ext. 22605Toronto, Ontario fax: 416-736-5830M3J 1P3, CANADA ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
