Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Philippe Hanset]

We will have this summer:

utk-wpa2 for the encrypted ones
utk-open for all unencrypted ones (registered AND visitors)
eduroam for participants in the eduroam fabric

a few hidden ones with wpa-psk for scanners (ticketing system)

Philippe Hanset
Univ. of TN






Nathan Hay  03/31/09 12:12 PM >>>
We are trying to decide on some network names for our various  
networks and we are looking for input from other schools.


Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description  
of their target audience of devices/users?


We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID  
that is primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.


Here's what we have currently:

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access,  
only in academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/ 
iPod touch and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for  
laptops (students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students  
and others)


Thanks,

Nathan






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Computer Services
Cedarville University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Jeffrey Sessler]

I'd recommend against using "secure" as part of the SSID name ie. 
"cedarwireless-secure"

While WPA2-Ent adds encryption between the client and AP, it doesn't add 
anything else for the data being transported between the client and end-point. 
By including the word "secure" your user-base may have a false sense that 
anything they do while connected to that SSID is being protected by the 
University i.e. "http:// is fine when accessing my bank because I'm using the 
University "secure" wireless network."

I'd also limit the length of the SSIDs as there are some devices that truncate 
names >15 characters.  

Jeff 

>>> Nathan Hay  03/31/09 12:12 PM >>>
We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and we 
are looking for input from other schools.
 
Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their 
target audience of devices/users?
 
We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is 
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.
 
Here's what we have currently:
 
cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in 
academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch 
and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops 
(students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and others)
 
Thanks,
 
Nathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
Nathan P. Hay
Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Frank Bulk]

The KSC_Student SSId as you describe is not a wise setup - the majority of
your user base is operating in the clear.  The only place where unencrypted
access should be accessible is guest access which would have limitations in
terms of speed or captive portal, and no access to internal resources, or
for gaming devices where the open ports/IPs are limited to the services
those devices require, also without access to internal resources.  CCA as
you have is good for host-based security/health posture checking, but
hackers can sniff all the network.

Frank

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Scholz, Greg
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

KSC_Guest - blusocket controlled, internet access only

KSC_Student - no controls or encryption but dumps in behind our CCA so they
have to log in there to get anywhere. Student primarily use this because of
simplicity.

KSC_Secure - WPA, 802.1x, required for fac/staff to access any on campus
resources. Optional for students. If students select it our
controller/radius arrangement puts them into the same vlan as the
KSC_Student SSID so they also have to comply with CCA including the login.
Very few students use it since it would require specific settings on their
PC and two logins

Couple other select ones for special applications. All begin with "KSC_". So
it seems we are nearly the same as you.

_

Thank you,

Gregory R. Scholz

Director of Telecommunications

Information Technology Group

Keene State College

(603)358-2070

 

--If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it
over?

--Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.

- John Wooden

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

 

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and
we are looking for input from other schools.

 

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their
target audience of devices/users?

 

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

 

Here's what we have currently:

 

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in
academic buildings

cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod
touch and game consoles

cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops
(students and others)

cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and
others)

 

Thanks,

 

Nathan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Frank Bulk]

For the grammatically correct ones, I would recommend
"cedarwireless-insecure". =)

Frank

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

 

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and
we are looking for input from other schools.

 

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their
target audience of devices/users?

 

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

 

Here's what we have currently:

 

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in
academic buildings

cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod
touch and game consoles

cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops
(students and others)

cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and
others)

 

Thanks,

 

Nathan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu   

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Armstrong, Geoff]

Hello Nathan,

We *try* to include our school's abbreviated name in the SSID and try to avoid 
common names. 

Here is our list;

Broadcast:
ubc [WebAuth/Open (hope to discontinue within 24 months)]
ubcsecure [WPA/TKIP w PEAP (adding mixed mode WPA2/AES soon)]
eduroam [roaming/guest academic users from participating institutes]
FatPort (Non-UBC User) [non-eduroam and/or non-academic guest users (pay per 
use)]

Non-Broadcast:
ubcdevice [mac authentication / for bridging and dummy devices]
ubcvoice [WPA2/AES EAP-FAST telephony replacement SSID]
telephony [WEP128 PSK/ for our old cisco 7920 deployment(soon to be 
discontinued)]

With our identity based wireless deployment around the corner we hope to retire 
a two or three of these soon.

Geoff Armstrong
Network Support Analyst
Connectivity Infrastructure
University of British Columbia - Information Technology
(604) 822-1305
UBC Wireless - http://www.it.ubc.ca/internet/wireless.html



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 12:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and we 
are looking for input from other schools.
 
Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their 
target audience of devices/users?
 
We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is 
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.
 
Here's what we have currently:
 
cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in 
academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch 
and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops 
(students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and others)
 
Thanks,
 
Nathan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Oliver Gorwits]

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Hi Nathan,

Nathan Hay wrote:
> Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief
> description of their target audience of devices/users?

Like many in the thread we went down the branding route; our system
is called OWL, and we use a big picture of an owl on hotspot advert
posters, etc. The users seem to find asking whether somewhere "has
OWL" gets a better response than "has wireless".


So "OWL" is one of our SSIDs, completely open. Provides VPN server
access for members, and captive portal for visitors.

Our encrypted service is "eduroam" which many of you may know
about[1]. That's where we're pushing all staff and students, so they
use OWL with VPN only if they have no WPA. We don't support devices
which can't do WPA Enterprise[2].

Cisco WiFi IP Phones use a non-broadcast third SSID.


Because of our federated IT structure, we also added rules about
what other wireless networks can be called in University premises:

"The SSID OWL, or any prefix or suffix on that identifier may only
be used according to a naming scheme released by OUCS, and the OWL
family of SSIDs will be used only to provide standardised OWL services

The SSID eduroam, or any prefix or suffix on that identifier, may
not be used except for the purposes of the international Eduroam
service"


I hope that helps,


[1] http://www.eduroam.org/
[2] http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/network/wireless/services/eduroam/

- --
Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group,
Oxford University Computing Services
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Johnson, Neil M]

UI-Wireless-WPA2
UI-Wireless-Guest - Web portal authentication
Our wireless policy explicitly states that SSID's starting with "UI-Wireless-" 
are reserved for the campus wireless service.
-Neil
--
Neil Johnson
Network Engineer
Information Technology Services
The University of Iowa
Work: 319 384-0938
Mobile: 319 540-2081
Fax: 319 355-2618
E-mail/MSN: neil-john...@uiowa.edu

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Scholz, Greg
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

KSC_Guest - blusocket controlled, internet access only
KSC_Student - no controls or encryption but dumps in behind our CCA so they 
have to log in there to get anywhere. Student primarily use this because of 
simplicity.
KSC_Secure - WPA, 802.1x, required for fac/staff to access any on campus 
resources. Optional for students. If students select it our controller/radius 
arrangement puts them into the same vlan as the KSC_Student SSID so they also 
have to comply with CCA including the login. Very few students use it since it 
would require specific settings on their PC and two logins
Couple other select ones for special applications. All begin with "KSC_". So it 
seems we are nearly the same as you.
_
Thank you,
Gregory R. Scholz
Director of Telecommunications
Information Technology Group
Keene State College
(603)358-2070

--If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?
--Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.
- John Wooden

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and we 
are looking for input from other schools.

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their 
target audience of devices/users?

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is 
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

Here's what we have currently:

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in 
academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch 
and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops 
(students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and others)

Thanks,

Nathan






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Computer Services
Cedarville University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Scholz, Greg]

KSC_Guest - blusocket controlled, internet access only

KSC_Student - no controls or encryption but dumps in behind our CCA so
they have to log in there to get anywhere. Student primarily use this
because of simplicity.

KSC_Secure - WPA, 802.1x, required for fac/staff to access any on campus
resources. Optional for students. If students select it our
controller/radius arrangement puts them into the same vlan as the
KSC_Student SSID so they also have to comply with CCA including the
login. Very few students use it since it would require specific settings
on their PC and two logins

Couple other select ones for special applications. All begin with
"KSC_". So it seems we are nearly the same as you.

_

Thank you,

Gregory R. Scholz

Director of Telecommunications

Information Technology Group

Keene State College

(603)358-2070

 

--If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do
it over?

--Do not let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do.

- John Wooden

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

 

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks
and we are looking for input from other schools.

 

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of
their target audience of devices/users?

 

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that
is primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

 

Here's what we have currently:

 

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access,
only in academic buildings

cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for
smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch and game consoles

cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops
(students and others)

cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and
others)

 

Thanks,

 

Nathan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu   

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Greene, Chip]

We are currently only broadcasting two SSIDs to campus
Richmond: Open unencrypted network used for computer registration portal and 
various devices that do not support WPA/TKIP or WPA2/AES
urwin: required for all devices that support WPA/TKIP or WPA2/AES
Our approach is to required WPA/TKIP at a minimum and all users/phones/game 
consoles/etc use this ssid for wireless connectivity.  On a case by case basis 
we will allow devices to remain connected on the Richmond ssid if they can not 
be upgraded for use with WPA/TKIP. All devices are required to be registered 
with MAC address and NetID before connectivity ti urwin is permitted.  Devices 
not registered and connected to either Richmond or urwin will be confined to 
our registration system.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and we 
are looking for input from other schools.

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their 
target audience of devices/users?

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is 
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

Here's what we have currently:

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in 
academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch 
and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops 
(students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and others)

Thanks,

Nathan






Nathan P. Hay
Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Randall C Grimshaw]

One compelling reason for choosing a SSID name is Trademark. There are some who 
say (this is unproven to the best of my knowledge) that f you register your 
name as a trademark you have a better chance of legally defending your right 
not to have others broadcast it - nefarious or otherwise. It looks like you 
already have started 'family branding' around cedarwireless-...why would 
you want to change?
Randy
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks and we 
are looking for input from other schools.

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of their 
target audience of devices/users?

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that is 
primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

Here's what we have currently:

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access, only in 
academic buildings
cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch 
and game consoles
cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops 
(students and others)
cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and others)

Thanks,

Nathan






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Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Barber, Matt]

Hey Nathan,

We have a couple extra that we are phasing out, but in our final design,
we will end up with:

-MSCwireless - WPA2 Enterprise for the majority of our clients

-MSCdevices - Special SSID for gaming consoles and other handheld stuff
that does not support WPA2

-MSCguest - Restricted Internet-only traffic for visitors

We might use a couple others for special events or other things, but
those serve us pretty well.  

Take care,

Matt Barber

Network Analyst

Morrisville State College

315-684-6053

 

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[mailto:wireless-...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Nathan Hay
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

 

We are trying to decide on some network names for our various networks
and we are looking for input from other schools.

 

Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of
their target audience of devices/users?

 

We are specifically interested in choosing a new name for our SSID that
is primarily for smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch devices.

 

Here's what we have currently:

 

cedarwireless-guest:  coffee shop type wireless with limited access,
only in academic buildings

cedarwireless-special:  non-broadcast SSID for
smartphone/PDA/iPhone/iPod touch and game consoles

cedarwireless-unsecure:  clear network with captive portal for laptops
(students and others)

cedarwireless-secure:  WPA2-Enterprise network for laptops (students and
others)

 

Thanks,

 

Nathan

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nathan P. Hay
Network Engineer
Computer Services
Cedarville University
www.cedarville.edu   

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless network names

[Julian Y. Koh]

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At 15:11 -0400 3/31/2009, Nathan Hay wrote:
>Would anyone mind sharing their SSID names and a brief description of
>their target audience of devices/users?

Our first campuswide (non-trial) SSID name was "nuwlan".  When we set up a
new one for 802.1X/WPA2 authentication, we named it "Northwestern".  nuwlan
is actually still active, just not broadcasted.

Aside from those, we have a few little localized ones for specialty
audiences and locations.


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