Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
Thanks Niel.. Just for my reference could you let me know which Extended BA site that contain these examples? I have seen a few and I think I know the one you are talking about but just wanted to confirm? Also is there an example on the site for specifically testing the Burn UI under system OS language? Thanks, Tim. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7588121.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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This is the site http://wixextba.codeplex.com/ -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: 16 August 2013 19:55 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS Thanks Niel.. Just for my reference could you let me know which Extended BA site that contain these examples? I have seen a few and I think I know the one you are talking about but just wanted to confirm? Also is there an example on the site for specifically testing the Burn UI under system OS language? Thanks, Tim. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7588121.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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There are some samples on the extended BA site that should help - if you have any problems it would be preferable if you posted questions there. Neil -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: 13 August 2013 22:47 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS Thanks Neil, Before I look at moving over to 3.8 could you let me know what I would have to do to use the extended BA to test how that works with 3.7. Basically what changes do I have to make and if there are any files I have to be editing to actually make it work? I have not done alot of Win 8 testing, but with the sound of it it looks like I'll have to start soon as we are releasing many projects that support multiple languages and therefore I better make sure we do not have issues with our current WiX installers. Tim -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587998.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
PS: The code you are interested in is in src\ext\BalExtension\wixstdba\WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.cpp, LoadLocalization(). That uses the helper function LocProbeForFile() that is in src\dutil\locutil.cpp On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:17 AM, TimM timmay...@smarttech.com wrote: So Phill, did you have a chance to try any of these suggestions and/or WiX 3.8 to see if you can get the Burn wrapper .exe to launch correctly in the language of the OS? -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587976.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Tim, I'm still working on it, but with other responsibilities here at work have not made much progress yet. I do not have my project building under 3.8 yet. Last week I went down the route to change from using WixBootstrapperApplication.HyperlinkLicense to WixExtendedBootstrapperApplication.HyperlinkLicense so that I could use the BAFunctions.dll to try and address the auto detect of user language. I did not realize that 3.7 was supposed to detect the language. Now I understand the approach that Neil has suggested but I am trying to upgrade to 3.8 and having issues building with Extended bootstrapper. I have another issue to address here at work and then will get back on this issue. Thanks for the info Rob. I will look at that code. Phill -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587978.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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I have my bundle building under WiX 3.8 and yes on Windows 8 Professional with German selected as the default language, the bundle showed my localized German strings without the need for the -lang switch. I have yet to implement Neil's suggestion to create a localized variable in my wxl files which will be passed to the MsiProperty as the name of the transform, but I am sure that approach will also work. Sorry for the delay in reporting back. Knowing this now I probably did not need to go down the path of integrating with the WixExtendedBootstrapperApplication, but I suspect I will need some of those features (like the two browse paths) eventually. And since I previously created a BalExtension based on Neil's sample code to generate a version number at build time, I had to do a little reorganization of my project when I converted it to Wix 3.8. So in Wix 3.8 I found that I could change to using the WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.HyperlinkLargeLicense and all I needed to do was change the variables WixExtbaLicenseUrl, WixExtbaThemeXml, and WixExtbaThemeWxl to: WixStdbaLicenseUrl, WixStdbaThemeXml, and WixStdbaThemeWxl. I did not find where this was documented in the Wix 3.8.722.0 documentation, but when the linker complaiined using the new name I figured out the issue. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587980.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
Rob, excuse a non-experienced programmer here. I was looking at the code for the LocProbeForFile function was wondering about it. In the first if statement you are checking to see if a language was specified. Is this coming from a language selection dialog box and/or from the -lang LangID cmd line? As stated if I use the -lang LangID on the cmd line then the Burn wrapper .exe will correctly launch in that language, using my translated theme files, but if we just launch the .exe it does not take the System Language. So that brings me to the GetUserDefaultUILanguage and GetSystemDefaultUILanguage. If the seleted language is not found then where is it looking to check for User or System languages? Again since I am not an experienced programmer I need to understand what these entries are looking for? So if you do not mind giving a bit of help here I would appreciate it. Also will WiX 3.8 have burn updated so that it can detect and launch in the system language, if supported? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587982.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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The code does the following: 1. Read the -lang command line 2. Call GetUserDefaultLangID()http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318134(v=vs.85).aspx this should get the current users language. 3. Try the current user langid but without the sub language. 4. Call GetSystemDefaultUILanguage()http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318123(v=vs.85).aspx this should get the system language. 5. Try the current system langid but without the sub language. So (ignoring the command line) if the users language is Mexican and there is a Mexican translation it will find that, if not it will try Spanish. If that fails is will repeat the process of the system language. I tested this on several languages and it did seem to work ok - I was only checking that the Burn UI was translated. Do you have a problem with a specific language? Neil -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: 13 August 2013 18:09 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS Rob, excuse a non-experienced programmer here. I was looking at the code for the LocProbeForFile function was wondering about it. In the first if statement you are checking to see if a language was specified. Is this coming from a language selection dialog box and/or from the -lang LangID cmd line? As stated if I use the -lang LangID on the cmd line then the Burn wrapper .exe will correctly launch in that language, using my translated theme files, but if we just launch the .exe it does not take the System Language. So that brings me to the GetUserDefaultUILanguage and GetSystemDefaultUILanguage. If the seleted language is not found then where is it looking to check for User or System languages? Again since I am not an experienced programmer I need to understand what these entries are looking for? So if you do not mind giving a bit of help here I would appreciate it. Also will WiX 3.8 have burn updated so that it can detect and launch in the system language, if supported? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587982.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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I don't mean to side-track Tim's question but to clarify I was (and I think Tim is) running under Wix 3.7 and for me under Wix 3.7 on Windows 8 I never saw it select one of my wxl languages without me using the -lang switch. Neil said earlier that there was a bug in Wix 3.7 so I updated to Wix 3.8.722. Earlier I posted that Wix 3.8 is detecting the language (without fully testing all languages. Here let me say again I am testing on Windows 8 Professional x64 and I find the Windows 8 GUI for setting languages more confusing than my past experiences (so I am just saying this not to complain but to report that I have been a little unclear on what Windows 8 is doing). So even though with Wix 3.8 the bundle was selecting the language based on my UserDefaultLanguageID, I verified this several times changing the User Default between English and German. I also verified that if -lang 1041 is passed in Japanese is display regardless of the UserDefaultLanguageID. Now here is a strange twist. I was stepping though locutil.cpp and noticed while I cannot see what is in langid after the call to GetUserDefaultLnagID the next call creates a path to 1033\thm.wxl EVEN WHEN both the UserDefaultLangID is German, the current display lang is German, and the SystemDefault is German (1031). The code then checks to see if the path is valid. Originally the check for a valid path would fail, because I did specify a payload for 1033, and the code would get the SystemDefaultLangID, which is 1031 and display German. Success, I thought, but not understanding what is going on I thought I would make my project more efficient by adding a 1033 payload. So I made the change and recompiled. Now the code looks for the 1033\thm.wxl path, finds it and uses it, displaying English even if all OS settings are set to German. So now I am back to the same behavior as Wix 3.7 where it always displays English. I have not had a chance to check this on other OS or with other languages yet. Nor have I tried to remove my 1033\thm.wxl payload and try to reproduce the original behavior where it selected the German wxl, although I am not entirely sure how. BootstrapperApplicationRef Id=WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.HyperlinkLargeLicense Payload Name=bafunctions.dll Compressed=yes SourceFile=$(var.BAFuncBuildDir)\bafunctions.dll / Payload Name=Logo.png SourceFile=Resources\logo.png / Payload Id=theme_de_de Compressed=yes Name=1031\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1031\QDthm_de_de.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_en_us Compressed=yes Name=1033\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1033\QDthm_en_us.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_es_es Compressed=yes Name=1034\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1034\QDthm_es_es.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_fr_fr Compressed=yes Name=1036\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1036\QDthm_fr_fr.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_it_it Compressed=yes Name=1040\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1040\QDthm_it_it.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_ja_jp Compressed=yes Name=1041\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\1041\QDthm_ja_jp.wxl/ Payload Id=theme_zh_cn Compressed=yes Name=2052\thm.wxl SourceFile=Resources\2052\QDthm_zh_cn.wxl/ /BootstrapperApplicationRef ?endif? WixVariable Id=WixStdbaLicenseUrl Value=http://www.rimage.com/legal.html; / WixVariable Id=WixStdbaThemeXml Value=Resources\QDthm.xml / WixVariable Id=WixStdbaThemeWxl Value=Resources\1033\QDthm_en_us.wxl / Originally when the selection of the language appeared to work I had th following, and did not have the above 1033\thm.wxl Payload element. WixVariable Id=WixStdbaThemeWxl Value=Resources\QDthm_en_us.wxl / And while this is not related to the above discussion, in my language files I have strings like this. String Id=CDDTransform1031.mst/String String Id=QDTransfrom:1031.mst/String Which get passed to the MsiPackage like this MsiProperty Name='TRANSFORMS' Value='!(loc.QDTransfrom)'/ Sorry to pile on with so much info but there seems to be some implementation related variations in the behavior. Phill -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587987.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
Too clarify my comment about not being able to see what the result is for: langid = GetUserDefaultLangID() (in locutil.cpp) The issue is that LANGID langid is a type that WinDbg cannot interpret, however when I step into the call with the disassembler I can see that Windows 8 is returning 0x0409 (or English on a system that I have both User and System defaults set to German. Or put another why, I obviously don't understand something about how Windows 8 is configured. So I am researching that issue (and assuming that if I was using Windows 7 or XP there probably would not be as much confusion and the Wix code probably works as advertised). -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587988.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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OK I unravelled the Windows 8 configuration issue. This test system I thought was configured for German and English and I thought that I was setting both the System Default and the User Default to 1031 for these tests. I would change the order of the list under Language Preferences (based on various Internet statements to the effect that the top item in the list is the User Default). Not true, well at least not always true. On the Language Preferences dialog, click on the bottom item on the left panel, 'Change date, time or number formats' (and no clue that this is where you set the User Default Language ID). The top item in that dialog was set to 'Match selected display language (recommended)' So one can change that setting and set a specific language (German) and then the call in burn does return 0x407, rather than always English. But why did ''Match selected display language (recommended)' not work? Back to the Language Preferences dialog and eventually I noticed that both the English and German keyboard layouts were installed, but the German display language was not installed. So I installed it. Now the behavior is that the Wix setup runs in the Language that is at the top of the Display Language list, and not necessarily the language the user currently has selected (as the Windows 8 Match selected display language implies). So to summarise, after moving to WiX 3.8, the UsersDefaultLanguageID does control the displayed language of my bundle (if I do not use -lang ) AND on Windows 8 a user might be confused, but the underlying API is returning the Default so this does not appear to be a Wix behavioral issue. With that said, I wonder if there is still a problem with the Wix 3.8 implementation (or documentation) for a project in which the WixStdbaThemeWxl file is not located in a folder of 1033, and yet matches the UserDefaultLangID, it fails to use that thm.wxl file. Most examples that I have seem show adding other languages in there own lcid\thm.wxl file, but they do not necessarily make the point that the 'default' or English file also MUST be in a 1033 folder, for this code to make use of the file. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587990.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Neil, thanks for pointing out what the code does. I am running WiX 3.7 on Win 7 64 bit the problem is that when I have the System OS set to French, the current language that I have been testing, and run the burn wrapper .exe the burn UI will only appear in English. When I add the -lang 1036 to the command line then the burn UI and license file will correctly show in French. Now looking at Phill's latest comments I also set the English UI strings in the payload as well as on the bal element entries. The main sections of code shown below: BootstrapperApplicationRef Id=WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense bal:WixStandardBootstrapperApplication LicenseFile=$(var.PROJECT_ROOT)\EULAs\Toolkit\en\License.rtf ThemeFile=CustomUI\RtfTheme.xml LocalizationFile=$(var.PROJECT_ROOT)\EULAs\Toolkit\en\RtfTheme.wxl LogoFile=table_toolkit_app_for_WiX.png / PayloadGroupRef Id=RtfTheme_licenses/ PayloadGroupRef Id=RtfTheme_Strings/ /BootstrapperApplicationRef So if there is a bug in WiX 3.7 that corrects for this and therefore works in 3.8 then we'll have to look into upgrading, but if there is a fix for 3.7 or something that I am missing to get the Burn UI to correctly show in the System Language then I would appreciate the help. So if you have this working on serveral languages then were you using WiX 3.7 and if so then can you supply a small sample code that I can compare to mine and test to see if I can get it working? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587991.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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I believe I have fixed this with the extended BA I wrote and then I applied the same code to WiX 3.8 - so the options would be to use WiX 3.8 or the extended BA but reading Phil's comments regarding Windows 8 there may be more to it. From my testing I thought I had the correct solution but I am wondering if there is another wrinkle - this language stuff is not easy. It has always been a problem in the UK as Microsoft think that Americans speak English :-) Neil -Original Message- From: TimM [mailto:timmay...@smarttech.com] Sent: 13 August 2013 22:01 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS Neil, thanks for pointing out what the code does. I am running WiX 3.7 on Win 7 64 bit the problem is that when I have the System OS set to French, the current language that I have been testing, and run the burn wrapper .exe the burn UI will only appear in English. When I add the -lang 1036 to the command line then the burn UI and license file will correctly show in French. Now looking at Phill's latest comments I also set the English UI strings in the payload as well as on the bal element entries. The main sections of code shown below: BootstrapperApplicationRef Id=WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense bal:WixStandardBootstrapperApplication LicenseFile=$(var.PROJECT_ROOT)\EULAs\Toolkit\en\License.rtf ThemeFile=CustomUI\RtfTheme.xml LocalizationFile=$(var.PROJECT_ROOT)\EULAs\Toolkit\en\RtfTheme.wxl LogoFile=table_toolkit_app_for_WiX.png / PayloadGroupRef Id=RtfTheme_licenses/ PayloadGroupRef Id=RtfTheme_Strings/ /BootstrapperApplicationRef So if there is a bug in WiX 3.7 that corrects for this and therefore works in 3.8 then we'll have to look into upgrading, but if there is a fix for 3.7 or something that I am missing to get the Burn UI to correctly show in the System Language then I would appreciate the help. So if you have this working on serveral languages then were you using WiX 3.7 and if so then can you supply a small sample code that I can compare to mine and test to see if I can get it working? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587991.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
I think Windows 8 might be introducing a new variant, I have only tested Windows XP and 7. In the past I have only tested local language variant by installing the local OS version (this is not WiX specific I have done a lot of UI localisation). Now with the multi-language OS option in Windows 7 it has made things harder - it is not 100% clear to me how you change to a new language; is changing the display formatting all? I would have thought that just saying I want German number and currency format doesn't mean I want German language, I might just be an English speaker in Germany. The location option in Windows 7 also adds another variant. Neil -Original Message- From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] Sent: 13 August 2013 21:39 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS OK I unravelled the Windows 8 configuration issue. This test system I thought was configured for German and English and I thought that I was setting both the System Default and the User Default to 1031 for these tests. I would change the order of the list under Language Preferences (based on various Internet statements to the effect that the top item in the list is the User Default). Not true, well at least not always true. On the Language Preferences dialog, click on the bottom item on the left panel, 'Change date, time or number formats' (and no clue that this is where you set the User Default Language ID). The top item in that dialog was set to 'Match selected display language (recommended)' So one can change that setting and set a specific language (German) and then the call in burn does return 0x407, rather than always English. But why did ''Match selected display language (recommended)' not work? Back to the Language Preferences dialog and eventually I noticed that both the English and German keyboard layouts were installed, but the German display language was not installed. So I installed it. Now the behavior is that the Wix setup runs in the Language that is at the top of the Display Language list, and not necessarily the language the user currently has selected (as the Windows 8 Match selected display language implies). So to summarise, after moving to WiX 3.8, the UsersDefaultLanguageID does control the displayed language of my bundle (if I do not use -lang ) AND on Windows 8 a user might be confused, but the underlying API is returning the Default so this does not appear to be a Wix behavioral issue. With that said, I wonder if there is still a problem with the Wix 3.8 implementation (or documentation) for a project in which the WixStdbaThemeWxl file is not located in a folder of 1033, and yet matches the UserDefaultLangID, it fails to use that thm.wxl file. Most examples that I have seem show adding other languages in there own lcid\thm.wxl file, but they do not necessarily make the point that the 'default' or English file also MUST be in a 1033 folder, for this code to make use of the file. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587990.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: multi-language bundle - A BIG THANKS
Thanks Neil, Before I look at moving over to 3.8 could you let me know what I would have to do to use the extended BA to test how that works with 3.7. Basically what changes do I have to make and if there are any files I have to be editing to actually make it work? I have not done alot of Win 8 testing, but with the sound of it it looks like I'll have to start soon as we are releasing many projects that support multiple languages and therefore I better make sure we do not have issues with our current WiX installers. Tim -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/My-experiences-making-a-multi-language-bundle-tp7208949p7587998.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
