Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-13 Thread Giora keinan
Thanks
I think I understand the picture
Giora


Blair wrote:
> The intent is:
>  - A major update is an update that "replaces" all previous versions of a
> product. It never requires (usually) the previous version to be installed.
>  - A minor update is an identical copy of an original with some "minor"
> changes. You can't really remove anything in the "replacement package" from
> the already installed package (without involving major breaking things).
>
> The only way to have the "upgrade" contain only new stuff that combines with
> older stuff is to make an MSP and send it out.
>
> OnlyDetect should be 'no' and your upgrade package must have everything it
> needs by itself (it must not depend on the previous package ever having been
> installed).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:57 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Hello Again
> The Allusers were not the same. I set them both to Allusers = 1.
>
> I received the following results:
>
> In Major Update:
> - in case that the OnlyDetect='yes' :
>There are two entries in the Add Remove Programs
> - in case that the OnlyDetect='no' :
>There are is one entry in the Add Remove Programs
>But all the files of the original installation are deleted. (only 
> the two components that are part of the upgrade are installed).
>
> In Minor Update:
> No change - the upgrade works, there is one entry in the Add remove 
> programs, the problem is that when I remove the program, only the 
> upgrade is removed.
>  
> In the Minor mode I tried to debug using a log file and the 
> MSIENFORCEUPGRADECOMPONENTROULES=1.
> its stops the installation with error 2771. Looking at the log file the 
> msiexec is looking for a component that is part of the original 
> installation but not part of the upgrade.
>
> I am using the same feature name in both setup and upgrade.
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>  
>
>
>
> Wilson, Phil wrote:
>   
>> Assuming you did all that, and corrected the OnlyDetect value, then all I
>> 
> can think of now is that the Allusers value is not the same between the old
> version and the newer one. 
>   
>> If you install and take an MSI log:
>>
>> Msiexec /I  /l*v 
>>
>> What does the log say, looking at all the FindRelatedProducts data? 
>>
>> Phil Wilson 
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:43 AM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Hello All
>> After playing two more days I made no progress.
>> I tried all the advises I got, including rewriting the wxs file 
>> following the example in Neil Sleightholm's blog.
>>
>> I got the same two results:
>> Major upgrade: (Using '*') every thing works but I got two entries in 
>> the Add Remove Programs. One for the original installation and one for 
>> the Upgrade.
>> Minor Upgrade. (using the original component and product key).  I have 
>> only one Entry in the Add Remove Program but when I Uninstall this entry 
>> only the components that are part of the upgrade are removed.
>>
>> I tried every combination of Keys automatic GUID and msiexec command 
>> line argument (including running directly the Upgrade.msi).
>>
>> The application should be upgrade frequently, so we can't have an entry 
>> for each upgrade.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Giora
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil Sleightholm wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
>>> you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
>>>  to stop this happening.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
>>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>>
>>> Hello
>>> Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
>>> I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
>>> I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)
>>>
>>> following in my upgrade code, maybe

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-10 Thread Blair
The intent is:
 - A major update is an update that "replaces" all previous versions of a
product. It never requires (usually) the previous version to be installed.
 - A minor update is an identical copy of an original with some "minor"
changes. You can't really remove anything in the "replacement package" from
the already installed package (without involving major breaking things).

The only way to have the "upgrade" contain only new stuff that combines with
older stuff is to make an MSP and send it out.

OnlyDetect should be 'no' and your upgrade package must have everything it
needs by itself (it must not depend on the previous package ever having been
installed).

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:57 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Hello Again
The Allusers were not the same. I set them both to Allusers = 1.

I received the following results:

In Major Update:
- in case that the OnlyDetect='yes' :
   There are two entries in the Add Remove Programs
- in case that the OnlyDetect='no' :
   There are is one entry in the Add Remove Programs
   But all the files of the original installation are deleted. (only 
the two components that are part of the upgrade are installed).

In Minor Update:
No change - the upgrade works, there is one entry in the Add remove 
programs, the problem is that when I remove the program, only the 
upgrade is removed.
 
In the Minor mode I tried to debug using a log file and the 
MSIENFORCEUPGRADECOMPONENTROULES=1.
its stops the installation with error 2771. Looking at the log file the 
msiexec is looking for a component that is part of the original 
installation but not part of the upgrade.

I am using the same feature name in both setup and upgrade.

Thanks
Giora

 



Wilson, Phil wrote:
> Assuming you did all that, and corrected the OnlyDetect value, then all I
can think of now is that the Allusers value is not the same between the old
version and the newer one. 
>
> If you install and take an MSI log:
>
> Msiexec /I  /l*v 
>
> What does the log say, looking at all the FindRelatedProducts data? 
>
> Phil Wilson 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:43 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Hello All
> After playing two more days I made no progress.
> I tried all the advises I got, including rewriting the wxs file 
> following the example in Neil Sleightholm's blog.
>
> I got the same two results:
> Major upgrade: (Using '*') every thing works but I got two entries in 
> the Add Remove Programs. One for the original installation and one for 
> the Upgrade.
> Minor Upgrade. (using the original component and product key).  I have 
> only one Entry in the Add Remove Program but when I Uninstall this entry 
> only the components that are part of the upgrade are removed.
>
> I tried every combination of Keys automatic GUID and msiexec command 
> line argument (including running directly the Upgrade.msi).
>
> The application should be upgrade frequently, so we can't have an entry 
> for each upgrade.
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>
>
> Neil Sleightholm wrote:
>   
>> Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
>> you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
>>  to stop this happening.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Hello
>> Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
>> I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
>> I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)
>>
>> following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>   > UpgradeCode='2638A59D-5047-4E78-87A6-A665B98FA131'
>>Language='1033' Codepage='1252' Version='$(var.Version)' 
>> Manufacturer='Gakay'>
>>
>>
>>   >   Description="CapCake $(var.Version) Updater"
>>   Comments='CapsCake is a  trademark of Gakay.' Manufacturer='Gakay'
>>   InstallerVersion='100' Languages='1033' Compressed='

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-10 Thread Giora keinan
Hello Again
The Allusers were not the same. I set them both to Allusers = 1.

I received the following results:

In Major Update:
- in case that the OnlyDetect='yes' :
   There are two entries in the Add Remove Programs
- in case that the OnlyDetect='no' :
   There are is one entry in the Add Remove Programs
   But all the files of the original installation are deleted. (only 
the two components that are part of the upgrade are installed).

In Minor Update:
No change - the upgrade works, there is one entry in the Add remove 
programs, the problem is that when I remove the program, only the 
upgrade is removed.
 
In the Minor mode I tried to debug using a log file and the 
MSIENFORCEUPGRADECOMPONENTROULES=1.
its stops the installation with error 2771. Looking at the log file the 
msiexec is looking for a component that is part of the original 
installation but not part of the upgrade.

I am using the same feature name in both setup and upgrade.

Thanks
Giora

 



Wilson, Phil wrote:
> Assuming you did all that, and corrected the OnlyDetect value, then all I can 
> think of now is that the Allusers value is not the same between the old 
> version and the newer one. 
>
> If you install and take an MSI log:
>
> Msiexec /I  /l*v 
>
> What does the log say, looking at all the FindRelatedProducts data? 
>
> Phil Wilson 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:43 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Hello All
> After playing two more days I made no progress.
> I tried all the advises I got, including rewriting the wxs file 
> following the example in Neil Sleightholm's blog.
>
> I got the same two results:
> Major upgrade: (Using '*') every thing works but I got two entries in 
> the Add Remove Programs. One for the original installation and one for 
> the Upgrade.
> Minor Upgrade. (using the original component and product key).  I have 
> only one Entry in the Add Remove Program but when I Uninstall this entry 
> only the components that are part of the upgrade are removed.
>
> I tried every combination of Keys automatic GUID and msiexec command 
> line argument (including running directly the Upgrade.msi).
>
> The application should be upgrade frequently, so we can't have an entry 
> for each upgrade.
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>
>
> Neil Sleightholm wrote:
>   
>> Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
>> you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
>>  to stop this happening.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Hello
>> Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
>> I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
>> I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)
>>
>> following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>   > UpgradeCode='2638A59D-5047-4E78-87A6-A665B98FA131'
>>Language='1033' Codepage='1252' Version='$(var.Version)' 
>> Manufacturer='Gakay'>
>>
>>
>>   >   Description="CapCake $(var.Version) Updater"
>>   Comments='CapsCake is a  trademark of Gakay.' Manufacturer='Gakay'
>>   InstallerVersion='100' Languages='1033' Compressed='yes' 
>> SummaryCodepage='1252' />
>>
>> 
>>   > Root='HKLM' Key='Software\Gakay\CapsCake' Name='InstallDir' />
>> 
>>
>>
>>   > Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
>> Minimum="1.0.0" IncludeMinimum="yes"
>> Maximum="$(var.Version)"
>> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>>   > Minimum="$(var.Version)" IncludeMinimum="no" />
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>   
>>   
>>
>> 
>>   > Source='CapsCake.exe' KeyPath='yes'>
>>   
>> 
>>
>> 
>>   

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-09 Thread Wilson, Phil
Assuming you did all that, and corrected the OnlyDetect value, then all I can 
think of now is that the Allusers value is not the same between the old version 
and the newer one. 

If you install and take an MSI log:

Msiexec /I  /l*v 

What does the log say, looking at all the FindRelatedProducts data? 

Phil Wilson 

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:43 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Hello All
After playing two more days I made no progress.
I tried all the advises I got, including rewriting the wxs file 
following the example in Neil Sleightholm's blog.

I got the same two results:
Major upgrade: (Using '*') every thing works but I got two entries in 
the Add Remove Programs. One for the original installation and one for 
the Upgrade.
Minor Upgrade. (using the original component and product key).  I have 
only one Entry in the Add Remove Program but when I Uninstall this entry 
only the components that are part of the upgrade are removed.

I tried every combination of Keys automatic GUID and msiexec command 
line argument (including running directly the Upgrade.msi).

The application should be upgrade frequently, so we can't have an entry 
for each upgrade.

Thanks
Giora



Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
> you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
>  to stop this happening.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Hello
> Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
> I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
> I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)
>
> following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>UpgradeCode='2638A59D-5047-4E78-87A6-A665B98FA131'
>Language='1033' Codepage='1252' Version='$(var.Version)' 
> Manufacturer='Gakay'>
>
>
>  Description="CapCake $(var.Version) Updater"
>   Comments='CapsCake is a  trademark of Gakay.' Manufacturer='Gakay'
>   InstallerVersion='100' Languages='1033' Compressed='yes' 
> SummaryCodepage='1252' />
>
> 
>Root='HKLM' Key='Software\Gakay\CapsCake' Name='InstallDir' />
> 
>
>
>Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> Minimum="1.0.0" IncludeMinimum="yes"
> Maximum="$(var.Version)"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>Minimum="$(var.Version)" IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
>
> 
> 
>
> 
>   
>   
>
> 
>Source='CapsCake.exe' KeyPath='yes'>
>   
> 
>
> 
>   
>
> 
>  Key='Software\Gakay\CapsCake' Name='AppVersion' Type='string' 
> Value='$(var.Version)' Action='write' />
>  
>
>
>  
>
>
> ConfigurableDirectory='INSTALLDIR'>
>   
>   
> 
>
>
>
> 
>  
>After='FindRelatedProducts'>NEWERVERSIONDETECTED
> 
>
>
>
>   
> 
>
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>
>
>
>
> Sascha Beaumont wrote:
>   
>> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
>> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
>> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
>> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
>> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
>> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
>> scenario.
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> > Minimum="$(var.version)"
>> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
>> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>>
>> > Maximum="$(var.version)"
>> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
>> IncludeMaximum=&

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-09 Thread Giora keinan
Hello All
After playing two more days I made no progress.
I tried all the advises I got, including rewriting the wxs file 
following the example in Neil Sleightholm's blog.

I got the same two results:
Major upgrade: (Using '*') every thing works but I got two entries in 
the Add Remove Programs. One for the original installation and one for 
the Upgrade.
Minor Upgrade. (using the original component and product key).  I have 
only one Entry in the Add Remove Program but when I Uninstall this entry 
only the components that are part of the upgrade are removed.

I tried every combination of Keys automatic GUID and msiexec command 
line argument (including running directly the Upgrade.msi).

The application should be upgrade frequently, so we can't have an entry 
for each upgrade.

Thanks
Giora



Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
> you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
>  to stop this happening.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Hello
> Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
> I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
> I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)
>
> following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>UpgradeCode='2638A59D-5047-4E78-87A6-A665B98FA131'
>Language='1033' Codepage='1252' Version='$(var.Version)' 
> Manufacturer='Gakay'>
>
>
>  Description="CapCake $(var.Version) Updater"
>   Comments='CapsCake is a  trademark of Gakay.' Manufacturer='Gakay'
>   InstallerVersion='100' Languages='1033' Compressed='yes' 
> SummaryCodepage='1252' />
>
> 
>Root='HKLM' Key='Software\Gakay\CapsCake' Name='InstallDir' />
> 
>
>
>Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> Minimum="1.0.0" IncludeMinimum="yes"
> Maximum="$(var.Version)"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>Minimum="$(var.Version)" IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
>
> 
> 
>
> 
>   
>   
>
> 
>Source='CapsCake.exe' KeyPath='yes'>
>   
> 
>
> 
>   
>
> 
>  Key='Software\Gakay\CapsCake' Name='AppVersion' Type='string' 
> Value='$(var.Version)' Action='write' />
>  
>
>
>  
>
>
> ConfigurableDirectory='INSTALLDIR'>
>   
>   
> 
>
>
>
> 
>  
>After='FindRelatedProducts'>NEWERVERSIONDETECTED
> 
>
>
>
>   
> 
>
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>
>
>
>
> Sascha Beaumont wrote:
>   
>> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
>> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
>> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
>> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
>> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
>> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
>> scenario.
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> > Minimum="$(var.version)"
>> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
>> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>>
>> > Maximum="$(var.version)"
>> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
>> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>>
>> 
>> >  Maximum="$(var.version)" Minimum="$(var.version)"
>>  IncludeMinimum="yes" IncludeMaximum="yes"
>> 
> OnlyDetect="yes" />
>   
>>   
>>
>>  > Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_LaterVersion)" />
>>   > Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_AnotherBuild)" />
>>
>>
>> 
>> > 
> After="FindRelatedProducts">
>   
>

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Goira, your Product/@UpgradeCode doesn't match Upgrade/@Id that is why
you get the duplicate. Take a look at my sample again you will see I use
 to stop this happening.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 December 2009 09:35
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Hello
Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)

following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:






  


  


  


   
  
  
   










  
  


  
  



  



 


 


   
  
  





 
  NEWERVERSIONDETECTED




  



Thanks
Giora





Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
> scenario.
>
>
>
>   
>  Minimum="$(var.version)"
> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>  Maximum="$(var.version)"
> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>
> 
>   Maximum="$(var.version)" Minimum="$(var.version)"
>  IncludeMinimum="yes" IncludeMaximum="yes"
OnlyDetect="yes" />
>
>   
>
>   Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_LaterVersion)" />
>Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_AnotherBuild)" />
>
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Asker Brodersen
>  wrote:
>   
>> Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?
>>
>> I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will
both be listed as installed.
>> Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older
version will be replaced.
>> To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this
is how my Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package
are '*', and my current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  >Maximum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED'
>>    IncludeMaximum='yes' />
>>
>>  
>>  >Minimum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='NEWERVERSIONDETECTED'
>>IncludeMinimum='no' />
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Asker
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
>> Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> 1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
>> 2. Order doesn't matter
>> 3. Not sure I understand
>>
>> Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
>> RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
>> section?
>>
>> You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
>> work when you run it.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Neil Hello
>> Thanks for the fast answer.
>> I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my
code
>> is similar.
>>
>> The differences I found where:
>> 1. My code has >which is not in the code you sent me.
>> 2. In my code the order of  > to the one in your code "> 3. I have code for founding the original installation directory.
>>
>> What I failed to find is what make the installer to add one more
entry
>> to the add / remove

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Wilson, Phil
You have OnlyDetect set to Yes when you detect the older version, that won't 
cause the upgrade to occur. 

Phil Wilson 

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:35 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Hello
Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)

following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:






  


  


  


   
  
  
   










  
  


  
  



  



 


 


   
  
  





 
  NEWERVERSIONDETECTED




  



Thanks
Giora





Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
> scenario.
>
>
>
>   
>  Minimum="$(var.version)"
> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>  Maximum="$(var.version)"
> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>
> 
>   Maximum="$(var.version)" Minimum="$(var.version)"
>  IncludeMinimum="yes" IncludeMaximum="yes" OnlyDetect="yes" />
>
>   
>
>   Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_LaterVersion)" />
>Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_AnotherBuild)" />
>
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Asker Brodersen
>  wrote:
>   
>> Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?
>>
>> I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will both be 
>> listed as installed.
>> Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older version will 
>> be replaced.
>> To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this is how 
>> my Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package are '*', and 
>> my current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  >Maximum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED'
>>IncludeMaximum='yes' />
>>
>>  
>>  >Minimum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='NEWERVERSIONDETECTED'
>>IncludeMinimum='no' />
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Asker
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
>> Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> 1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
>> 2. Order doesn't matter
>> 3. Not sure I understand
>>
>> Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
>> RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
>> section?
>>
>> You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
>> work when you run it.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Neil Hello
>> Thanks for the fast answer.
>> I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code
>> is similar.
>>
>> The differences I found where:
>> 1. My code has >which is not in the code you sent me.
>> 2. In my code the order of  > to the one in your code "> 3. I have code for founding the original installation directory.
>>
>> What I failed to find is what make the installer to add one more entry
>> to the add / remove prog

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Blair
kelly.le...@milliman.com asked the right question.

Go back to Product/@Id="*", and make sure that Product/@Upgrade is identical
to Upgrade/@Id. Most of us create a  and use that.

Here is the pattern:


[...]
?>
[...]

  

...

  ...

...
  
  [...]


-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:45 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Hello All

I thought I found a solution that works.

1. I used the original GUIDs of the Product, and of the components I 
wanted to upgrade. (replaced the '*' with the GUIDs of the original setup).
2. use the same feature name as in the original setup.
3. Run the following command "msiexec /i  .msi REINSTALL=FeatureName 
REINSTALLMODE=vomus"

The upgrade works and there is only one entry in the Add Remove Programs.

The problem is that Uninstall removes only the components I upgrade 
instead of removing all the original installation. The size of the 
installation in the add remove programs is the original setup size not 
the upgrade size.

Giora




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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Giora keinan
Hello All

I thought I found a solution that works.

1. I used the original GUIDs of the Product, and of the components I 
wanted to upgrade. (replaced the '*' with the GUIDs of the original setup).
2. use the same feature name as in the original setup.
3. Run the following command "msiexec /i  .msi REINSTALL=FeatureName 
REINSTALLMODE=vomus"

The upgrade works and there is only one entry in the Add Remove Programs.

The problem is that Uninstall removes only the components I upgrade 
instead of removing all the original installation. The size of the 
installation in the add remove programs is the original setup size not 
the upgrade size.

Giora



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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Kelly . Leahy
Why are your two upgrade codes different?  Are you doing that on purpose?

The upgrade code should remain the same for all products that are 
considered to be in the same upgrade family.

by "two" upgrade codes, I mean the UpgradeCode in your Product tag and the 
Id in the Upgrade tag.




Giora keinan  

12/07/2009 01:39 AM
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Hello
Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)

following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:






  


  


  


   
  
  
   










  
  


  
  



  



 


 


   
  
  





 
  NEWERVERSIONDETECTED




  



Thanks
Giora





Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
> scenario.
>
>
>
>   
>  Minimum="$(var.version)"
> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>  Maximum="$(var.version)"
> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>
> 
>   Maximum="$(var.version)" Minimum="$(var.version)"
>  IncludeMinimum="yes" IncludeMaximum="yes" OnlyDetect="yes" 
/>
>
>   
>
>   Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_LaterVersion)" />
>Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_AnotherBuild)" />
>
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Asker Brodersen
>  wrote:
> 
>> Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?
>>
>> I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will 
both be listed as installed.
>> Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older version 
will be replaced.
>> To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this is 
how my Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package are 
'*', and my current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  >Maximum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED'
>>IncludeMaximum='yes' />
>>
>>  
>>  >Minimum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='NEWERVERSIONDETECTED'
>>IncludeMinimum='no' />
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Asker
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
>> Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> 1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
>> 2. Order doesn't matter
>> 3. Not sure I understand
>>
>> Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
>> RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
>> section?
>>
>> You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
>> work when you run it.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Neil Hello
>> Thanks for the fast answer.
>> I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code
>> is similar.
>>
>> The differences I found where:
>> 1. My code has >which is not in the code you sent me.
>> 2. In my code the order of  > to the one in your code "> 3. I have code f

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Giora keinan
Hello
Thanks Sascha, Asker and Neil.
I tried your ideas and still have no idea what is the problem
I am using only 3 digits version (trying to upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.0.8)

following in my upgrade code, maybe you will found what is the problem:






  


  


  


   
  
  
   










  
  


  
  



  



 


 


   
  
  





 
  NEWERVERSIONDETECTED




  



Thanks
Giora





Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
> versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
> This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
> means that we bump the third version following each public release in
> order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
> no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
> scenario.
>
>
>
>   
>  Minimum="$(var.version)"
> Property="NEWERVERSIONDETECTED"
> IncludeMinimum="no" />
>
>  Maximum="$(var.version)"
> Property="OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED"
> IncludeMaximum="no" />
>
> 
>   Maximum="$(var.version)" Minimum="$(var.version)"
>  IncludeMinimum="yes" IncludeMaximum="yes" OnlyDetect="yes" />
>
>   
>
>   Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_LaterVersion)" />
>Error="!(loc.LaunchCondition_AnotherBuild)" />
>
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Asker Brodersen
>  wrote:
>   
>> Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?
>>
>> I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will both be 
>> listed as installed.
>> Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older version will 
>> be replaced.
>> To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this is how 
>> my Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package are '*', and 
>> my current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):
>>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>>  >Maximum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>    Property='OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED'
>>IncludeMaximum='yes' />
>>
>>  
>>  >Minimum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>>Property='NEWERVERSIONDETECTED'
>>IncludeMinimum='no' />
>> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Asker
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
>> Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> 1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
>> 2. Order doesn't matter
>> 3. Not sure I understand
>>
>> Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
>> RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
>> section?
>>
>> You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
>> work when you run it.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> Neil Hello
>> Thanks for the fast answer.
>> I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code
>> is similar.
>>
>> The differences I found where:
>> 1. My code has >which is not in the code you sent me.
>> 2. In my code the order of  > to the one in your code "> 3. I have code for founding the original installation directory.
>>
>> What I failed to find is what make the installer to add one more entry
>> to the add / remove programs.
>>
>> As the upgrade command I am using:
>>
>> msiexec /i "CapsCakeUpgrade.msi" REINSTALLMODE=omu
>>
>> Thanks
>> Giora
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil Sleightholm wrote:
>> 
>>> It sounds like you h

Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-07 Thread Sascha Beaumont
Using Package/@Id="*" I'm using the following code - this prevents two
versions being installed where only the 4th version number differs.
This is primarily to prevent confusion with internal testing, and
means that we bump the third version following each public release in
order to permit upgrades. We only release major upgrades, so I've got
no idea how the code below would perform in a minor upgrade/patch
scenario.



  







  

 
  




  




  




On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Asker Brodersen
 wrote:
> Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?
>
> I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will both be 
> listed as installed.
> Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older version will 
> be replaced.
> To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this is how my 
> Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package are '*', and my 
> current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):
>
> 
>  
>  
>      Maximum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>    Property='OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED'
>    IncludeMaximum='yes' />
>
>  
>      Minimum='$(var.BuildVersion)'
>    Property='NEWERVERSIONDETECTED'
>    IncludeMinimum='no' />
> 
>
> Regards,
> Asker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> 1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
> 2. Order doesn't matter
> 3. Not sure I understand
>
> Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
> RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
> section?
>
> You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
> work when you run it.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> Neil Hello
> Thanks for the fast answer.
> I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code
> is similar.
>
> The differences I found where:
> 1. My code has     which is not in the code you sent me.
> 2. In my code the order of   to the one in your         code " 3. I have code for founding the original installation directory.
>
> What I failed to find is what make the installer to add one more entry
> to the add / remove programs.
>
> As the upgrade command I am using:
>
> msiexec /i "CapsCakeUpgrade.msi" REINSTALLMODE=omu
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>
>
> Neil Sleightholm wrote:
>> It sounds like you haven't got the upgrade code correct, there is a
>> sample here
>>
> http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/wix-script-for-major-upgrade
>> s.html that might help.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Giora Keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 06 December 2009 12:54
>> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>>
>> hello
>> Each time I am running a new upgrade, the installer add one more entry
>
>> in the add remove program.
>> How can I made an upgrade without adding it to the add remove program
>> (leaving only one add remove in place).
>>
>> Thanks
>> Giora
>>
>>
>
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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-06 Thread Asker Brodersen
Giora, do your versions differ by more than the fourth digit?

I have found that if you install 1.0.0.0 and then 1.0.0.1 they will both be 
listed as installed.
Incrementing the third digit (ie 1.0.0.0 to 1.0.1.0) the older version will be 
replaced.
To enable replacement also by fourth digit version increments, this is how my 
Upgrade section looks like (Id for both Product and Package are '*', and my 
current build version is '$(var.BuildVersion)'):


  
  
  

  
  


Regards, 
Asker

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] 
Sent: den 6 december 2009 18:46
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
2. Order doesn't matter
3. Not sure I understand

Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
section?

You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
work when you run it.

I hope that helps.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Neil Hello
Thanks for the fast answer.
I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code 
is similar.

The differences I found where:
1. My code has  It sounds like you haven't got the upgrade code correct, there is a
> sample here
>
http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/wix-script-for-major-upgrade
> s.html that might help.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora Keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 06 December 2009 12:54
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> hello
> Each time I am running a new upgrade, the installer add one more entry

> in the add remove program.
> How can I made an upgrade without adding it to the add remove program 
> (leaving only one add remove in place).
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>   

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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-06 Thread Neil Sleightholm
1. Package/@Id is optional but "*" is ok.
2. Order doesn't matter
3. Not sure I understand

Is your UpgradeCode/@Id fixed for both installations? Do you have
RemoveExistingProducts scheduled somewhere? Do you have an 
section?

You shouldn't need to update using that command line, it should just
work when you run it.

I hope that helps.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Giora keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 December 2009 15:29
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

Neil Hello
Thanks for the fast answer.
I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code 
is similar.

The differences I found where:
1. My code has  It sounds like you haven't got the upgrade code correct, there is a
> sample here
>
http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/wix-script-for-major-upgrade
> s.html that might help.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora Keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 06 December 2009 12:54
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> hello
> Each time I am running a new upgrade, the installer add one more entry

> in the add remove program.
> How can I made an upgrade without adding it to the add remove program 
> (leaving only one add remove in place).
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>   

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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-06 Thread Giora keinan
Neil Hello
Thanks for the fast answer.
I looked at code  in the URL you sent me. It looks for me that my code 
is similar.

The differences I found where:
1. My code has  It sounds like you haven't got the upgrade code correct, there is a
> sample here
> http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/wix-script-for-major-upgrade
> s.html that might help.
>
> Neil
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Giora Keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: 06 December 2009 12:54
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.
>
> hello
> Each time I am running a new upgrade, the installer add one more entry 
> in the add remove program.
> How can I made an upgrade without adding it to the add remove program 
> (leaving only one add remove in place).
>
> Thanks
> Giora
>
>   

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Re: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

2009-12-06 Thread Neil Sleightholm
It sounds like you haven't got the upgrade code correct, there is a
sample here
http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2009/01/wix-script-for-major-upgrade
s.html that might help.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Giora Keinan [mailto:grkei...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 06 December 2009 12:54
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] multiple entries in add remove programs.

hello
Each time I am running a new upgrade, the installer add one more entry 
in the add remove program.
How can I made an upgrade without adding it to the add remove program 
(leaving only one add remove in place).

Thanks
Giora

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