[wpkg-users] Negative Dependency

2012-10-26 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
Hi there

Is there a way to specify a negative dependency in the package
definition

i want to say:
if package XY is found (installed), then do not even try to install
this package, just wait to wpkg to remove the other package, try again
on next reboot

can we do something like that?


Best Regards


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Re: [wpkg-users] Negative Dependency

2012-10-26 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El vie, 26-10-2012 a las 20:56 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 26.10.2012 20:43, schrieb Geoff Brown:
  Reposted from Stefan (as an example):
 
  '---code start (watch for line wraps)
 
  package id=Java name=Java revision=2011.10.22 reboot=false 
  priority=10 execute=once
  include package-id=JRE6 os=5\.0\.\d{4}/
  include package-id=JRE7
  condition
  check type=logical condition=not
  check type=host condition=os value=5\.0\.\d{4}/
  /check
  /condition
  /include
  /package
 
  '---code end
 
 
 You may want to use a uninstall check for applications.
 
 '---code start (watch for line wraps)
 
 depends package-id=LibreOffice
  condition
  check type=logical condition=not
  check type=uninstall condition=exists
  path=Microsoft Office .* /
  /check
  /condition
 /depends
 
 '---code end
 
 --

Thank you guys but it's not exactly what i mean...

As i can see you are saying:

'this package depends on libreoffice unless msoffice is installed'

to be fair, i'm a Debian user since 1998, even before to start
administering windows networks, so i'm taking this dependencies schema
with the schema of Debian's package dependencies on my mind, and to have
all of those dependencies resolved, i think we need more types of
package dependencies; i cannot find the functionality i'm looking for.

See http://wpkg.org/Package_dependencies
We can define only three relationships between packages:

* depend - depends the current package to another specified package. 
* chain - chains another specified package to this package.
* include - includes another specified package in the overall WPKG
process.

And now see:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html

There we have:

* Depends (include in wpkg)
* Pre-Depends (depends in wpkg)

I can live without
* Recommends, Suggests, Enhances can be obviated in wpkg logic
* Breaks: Packages which break other packages

But i miss, or it would be great to have:
* Conflicts: Conflicting binary packages (libreoffice conflicts Apache
openoffice)
* Provides: Virtual packages (example: libreoffice and msoffice provides
'office_suite', any package depending on 'office_suite' have it's
dependencies ok if they have any of those suites installed)
* Replaces: Overwriting files and replacing packages (libreoffice
replaces msoffice (and provides it too))

What i was asking for in my first email was something like 'conflicts',
but Provides and Replaces can be very usefull too...

I cannot find this functionality in wpkg.js

is it there and i'm just missing how to get it?


Best Regards


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Re: [wpkg-users] Negative Dependency

2012-10-26 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El vie, 26-10-2012 a las 21:37 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 26.10.2012 21:26, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
  Thank you guys but it's not exactly what i mean...
 
  As i can see you are saying:
 
  'this package depends on libreoffice unless msoffice is installed'
 
 
 If MS Office is removed, then Libre Office is installed, that was what 
 you asked.

yes, but you put it on another package's dependencies...
i want a way to say 'libreoffice conflicts with msoffice' in the
libreoffice package definition, and 'msoffice conflicts with
libreoffice' on the msoffice definition.

 I don't think we need to make things more complicated, I have always 
 succeeded using the current available dependencies.

I agree with you on simple and clean dependencies schema, but at least
to me, not every time i can express the dependencies as i think them.


 Remove the package from the profile of the host and it gets removed, any 
 other package being blocked by that package will be installed afterwards.

 I don't think one should create complex dependency constructs for 
 software deployment.

what if i make a mistake when i'm selecting packages in the profile and
selecting two conflicting packages? (very possible when we have profiles
dependencies specified on different files).
Having a conflict statement on the package definition level will reduce
having troubles on user's machines.

 Assign what is needed to the host and allow installation of additional 
 required software through dependencies, that is simple and supported.

I think i'll need re-think all this issue again... may be it's just a
debianism in my head limiting my think capacity


Best Regards

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Re: [wpkg-users] Notifications of Flash and Java updates

2012-10-25 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mié, 24-10-2012 a las 17:27 +0100, Pete Boyd escribió:
  NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep 'Flash Player' |grep -m 1 '/h3'|awk
  '{gsub(/h3,,$0);print $3}'`
 
 Y'all don't read FilleHippo then?
 
 

I didn't know about that site, it seems good

How do you use filehippo.com to get updates on your mail about the
packages you are interested in??


Thanks

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Re: [wpkg-users] Notifications of Flash and Java updates

2012-10-24 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 23-10-2012 a las 13:19 -0800, Lonney escribió:
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone know of a service or system that will send an email to
 notify of when new versions of Flash and Java available ?
 
 

I'm using linux on my network whenever i can, so I’ve made a script that
i run with a cronjob:

flash.sh:
-
#!/bin/bash

LASTF='/path/to/check_wpkg/flash.last'
LAST=`cat $LASTF`
URL='http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html'

NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep 'Flash Player' |grep -m 1 '/h3'|awk
'{gsub(/h3,,$0);print $3}'`

if [[ $NEW != $LAST ]]; then
   echo -e difd\nNew: $NEW Vs. $LAST\n URL: $URL|\
mail -s [WPKG] New Flash Player $NEW \ 
user@email
   echo -n $NEW  $LASTF
fi
-

the filter line is what i change for every package (there are some
spanish, because i live in Argentina, you should adapt them to your
Language):

7zip.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - |grep Download 7-Zip|grep for
Windows|awk '{gsub(PBDownload 7-Zip ,,$0);gsub( for
Windows/B:/P,$0); print $1}'`

avg.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep
'http://download.avgfree.com/filedir/inst/avg_free_x64_all_'|awk -F
'http://download.avgfree.com/filedir/inst/avg_free_x64_all_' '{print
$2}'|awk -F '.exe' '{print $1}' `

firefox.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep -m 1 curVersion |awk
'{gsub(td class=\curVersion\ ,,$0);gsub(/td,,$0); print
$1}'`

flash.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep 'Flash Player' |grep -m 1
'/h3'|awk '{gsub(/h3,,$0);print $3}'`

java6.sh:NEW=`wget -q http://www.java.com/es/download/manual.jsp -O - | 
grep Recomendado |awk '{gsub(strongRecomendado Version ,,
$0);gsub(/strong,,$0);gsub( Update ,u,$0);print $1}'`

libo.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - | grep -m 1 'lia href=/download/' |
awk -F '' '{gsub(/a,,$0);print $3}'`

vlc.sh:NEW=`wget -q $URL -O - |grep 'Download latest VLC -'| awk
'{gsub(h1Download latest VLC - ,,$0);gsub(/h2,,$0);print
$1}'`



Maybe it's not the very best solution, but it works great for my needs


Best Regards

Charly

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Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-03 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 02-10-2012 a las 18:29 +0200, heiko.hel...@horiba.com escribió:
  i would like to know why you install another program on windows if
 you
  have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?
  
  I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default
 the
  remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
  works great here...
  
 
 * For you to login to XP via RDP it requires the user in front of the
 PC to log out. 
 * During your session the user will only see the login screen. 
 
 This means 
 - you can't troubleshoot a user problem with the user showing you what
 went wrong 
 - you dismiss possible error screens that you were supposed to look at
 (not every user is able to mail you a screenshot - especially if mail
 isn't working ) 
 
 I know there's remote assistance available via the windows help menu
 - we tried that (because it's free!) but though it works pretty well
 once established, most times establishing the connection fails. And
 for non-expert users, it's still a bit complicated. 
 
 We used UltraVNCs QuickSupport tool for quite a while, but that
 needs a ton of bandwidth and crashes a lot. Now we're a happy
 TeamViewer customer. It just works, that's really really cool. 
 

I'm on an University, so Teamviewer is not an option (i can't rely on
such a service by security policy).

The way to support the user when they are actually using their desktops
it's a very good argument i would like to test.

As i can see, if we choose to not use RDP nor Teamviewer/Logmein/etc. we
have left only VNC.

¿which one do you recommends to do this job?

¿is there a way to authenticate with DSA/RSA or the like?


Thanks!


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Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-02 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El lun, 01-10-2012 a las 10:52 +0200, Marco Cunico escribió:


Hi guys

i would like to know why you install another program on windows if you
have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?

I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default the
remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
works great here...

may be you have a different use case and can share with us your
experience.


Thanks!

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Re: [wpkg-users] Office 2010 Windows XP...

2012-09-18 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 18-09-2012 a las 15:11 +1000, Jon Rhoades escribió:
 Hi,
 
 We've been happily installing Office 2010 on Windows 7 for some time
 now.  Unfortunately against my better judgment we need to install it
 on 30 or so Windows XP machines.  I'm using the same package file, but
 with a new customised msp adminfile however the %comspec% /C start
  /WAIT fails to halt the progression of WPKG so the Office installer
 runs in parallel with other installs and obviously fails to install.
 
 When I run WPKG manually from the command line I can see that the
 Office splash screen is spawned and the silent (ha!) installation
 occurs.  My solution has been to set it as priority=0 so that it
 installs last without the possibility of interference.
 
 IS this a Windows XP issues that it doesn't honor the start /wait
 option?
 
 Cheers Jon 
 
 xpOffice2010.xml:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 packages 
 package id=xpOffice2010 
  name=OBI Microsoft Office 2010 
  revision=1 
  reboot=false 
  priority=0
  check type=uninstall condition=exists path=Microsoft
 Office Standard 2010 /
 install cmd='%comspec% /C start  /WAIT %SOFTWARE%\office
 \Office2010-MAK-SP1\setup.exe /adminfile %SOFTWARE%\office\obi.MSP'
 
 exit code=1641 /
 exit code=3010 /
 /install
 install cmd='%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\cscript C:\Program
 Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS /act'/
 
 upgrade include=install / 
 /package 
 /packages


Hi,

i'm not installing (yet) msoffice 2010, but i'm installing Office2007
and visio2010 on XP systems and not using start /wait:

Visio:
install cmd='%PKG_DIR%\SETUP.EXE /adminfile %PKG_DIR%
\visio2010.msp /config %PKG_DIR%\conf-fcal.xml' /

Office2007:
install cmd='%PKG_SETUP% /config %SOFTWARE%\Microsoft\Office\2007
\config_fcal.xml' 
exit code=1641 reboot=delayed/
/install

It works great on win XP trough 7 (even on 7-64bits)



on the other side: are you sure you are using the right command?

i don't understand why:

install cmd='%comspec% /C start  /WAIT %SOFTWARE%\office
Office2010-MAK-SP1\setup.exe /adminfile %SOFTWARE%\office\obi.MSP' 

and not:

install cmd='%comspec% /C start /WAIT %SOFTWARE%\office
Office2010-MAK-SP1\setup.exe /adminfile %SOFTWARE%\office\obi.MSP' 

(why  after /start ?)

may be i'm wrong on this last suggestion



Best Regards


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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-13 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 07:42 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 12.09.2012 22:07, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
  What does the number after the hyphen mean in your version number?
 
  x.y.z-a ... what means a?
 
  i reserve the last value for reviews of the .xml file with the same
  version of the installer.
 
  suppose i have a 1.2.3 version of the package, i'll create a 1.2.3-0
  revision of the xml, and if i found something wrong in the XML file, i
  can create 1.2.3-1 ... 1.2.3-9 without having trouble with the possibly
  upcoming version 1.2.4 of the package.
 
  It's just used by me.
 
  ¿do you think it's bad to do that?
 
 
 I have done so in the past too, but am now adding the additional version 
 part with a dot, since the hyphen gave me some unexpected results.

OK! i will take your advice right now!

 
  In general this should be solvable by using:
downgrade include=remove/
downgrade include=install/
 
 
  i this particular case, i do not need to execute remove before install,
  because i'am not really downgrading, i'm upgrading but WPKG thinks i'm
  downgrading, apparently there was an error in a previous version of the
  xml file (i'm trying to understand what have happened).
 
 
 Can you post the package as it is contained in the file 
 %SystemRoot%\System32\wpkg.xml on the failing system and how it is now 
 defined on the server?
 
 If we compare those two we can better see what is going on, since that 
 is the thing WPKG.js compares too.

This is the portion on Libreoffice in the file %SYSTEM32%\wpkg.xml of
one of the affected machines (before the downgrade definition):

 package id=libreoffice name=LibreOffice revision=%PKG_VERSION%
reboot=false priority=10
  variable name=PKG_VERSION value=%shortversion%-0/
  variable name=shortversion value=3.5.4/
  variable name=PKG_SOURCE value=%SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.5/
  depends package-id=java7/
  check type=uninstall condition=versiongreaterorequal
path=LibreOffice .+ value=%shortversion%/
  install cmd=msiexec /qn /i quot;%PKG_SOURCE%\LibO_%shortversion%
_Win_x86_install_multi.msiquot; ALLUSERS=1 CREATEDESKTOPLINK=1
REGISTER_ALL_MSO_TYPES=0 ISCHECKFORPRODUCTUPDATE=0
REGISTER_NO_MSO_TYPES=1/
  upgrade include=install/
  remove cmd=msiexec /qn /x quot;%PKG_SOURCE%\LibO_%shortversion%
_Win_x86_install_multi.msiquot; /
 /package

After obtaining this copy, i have updated the package definition with:
downgrade include=install /
and now i have 3.6.1 on the affected machines that i have tested (around
half of the total i know had this issue). I'll assume (by now) that this
issue is fixed.

 
  By the way, i have no way to know all the remove commands for every
  package's version; as i understand, i cannot use the remove command of
  other version of the XML package because it will call the remove section
  of the current version of the XML package, not the remove section of the
  installed version of the package; to call the remove section of the
  installed package, i need to remove the package from the profile.
 
 
 Generally I use the MSI file for remove too, since I really don't like 
 and need to bother with the application IDs.
 I don't know why users spend so much time on finding out the application 
 IDs, when there is a simpler solution.
 
 Nowadays MSI files are able to remove older versions of the software too.
 

ohh... i didn't know about that, i will test it!


Thanks Stefan!


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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-13 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 23:07 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 13.09.2012 21:19, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
package id=libreoffice name=LibreOffice revision=%
 PKG_VERSION%
  reboot=false priority=10
 variable name=PKG_VERSION value=%shortversion%-0/
 variable name=shortversion value=3.5.4/
 
 May be the problem was caused by the double variable expansion, which
 is 
 only supported with wpkg.js 1.3.0 and higher. 

Not in this case, because i'm using 1.3.0 from the first day (i'm almost
new on wpkg as you can see):

var WPKG_VERSION = 1.3.0;




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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-12 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 11-09-2012 a las 11:09 +0200, Rainer Meier escribió:
 Hi Carlos,
 
 I might shed some light on this topic. Although I currently don't have time 
 for 
 in-dept explanation/analysis.
 
 On 06.09.2012 20:08, Carlos R. Pasqualini wrote:
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, INFO: Installing 'LibreOffice' (libreoffice)...
 
 So WPKG is going to verify (check, upgrade/downgrade) LibreOffice. Fine.
 
 
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package
  'LibreOffice'.
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'shortversion' of value
  '3.6.1'
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_VERSION' of value '%
  shortversion%-0'
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_SOURCE' of value '%
  SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.6'
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
  \repositorio\software'.
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
  \repositorio\software'.
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'shortversion=3.6.1'.
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_VERSION=%
  shortversion%-0'.
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_SOURCE=%SOFTWARE%
  \libreoffice\3.6'.
 
 Variables set.
 
 
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Install type: downgrade
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Fetched 0 downgrade command(s).
 
 Here's your issue (very likely).
 WPKG performs a DOWNgrade, not an upgrade as you might have expected. Please 
 note that the decision to do upgrade or downgrade is not depending on the 
 checks. I think you got that point as I have seen you replying exactly this 
 to 
 another mail in the topic. The checks are entirely there to verify whether 
 the 
 software is installed properly.
 The decision whether upgrade or downgrade is performed depends on the values 
 of 
 the 'revision' attribute of a package.
 
 So if WPKG now claims it's going to perform a downgrade, then this is because 
 the machine your package is applied to seems to have already a LibreOffice 
 package installed which seems to have a newer version (in terms of 
 revision='...' attribute).
 
 So please verify that your hosts local wpkg.xml in system32 folder does not 
 contain an entry with LibreOffice where the revision is higher than your 
 package 
 to be synchronized.
 
 Such things often happen if package manipulations in productive repository 
 happen while clients do run WPKG or the numbering scheme changes. For example 
 early versions of WPKG only supported digits in the revision attribute. So I 
 was 
 used to enter something like 361 in the revision field. Then when changing 
 to 
 a different format like 3.6.1 it means a downgrade for WPKG since 3.6.1 
 is 
 supposed to be lower version than 361.0.0 (or 350.0.0 previously installed).
 
 So please compare the revision locally on the host with the one on the server 
 and you will likely find the cause why WPKG performs a downgrade instead of 
 an 
 upgrade.
 
 
 Moreover you will see here that WPKG fetched 0 (in words: zero) downgrade 
 commands. Likely you did not specify any downgrade commands.
 
 You might also just replicate the upgrade commands as downgrade commands so 
 WPKG 
 would actually perform the same commands during suspected downgrade. So WPKG 
 would think it's doing a downgrade while performing upgrade commands. The 
 result 
 will also be that the checks succeed and finally you are running LibreOffice 
 3.6.1 on your machine.
 
 
 Please also note that there were some issues regarding complex variable 
 definitions recently. I recommend to use latest WPKG version from SVN:
 
 http://wpkg.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wpkg/wpkg/stable/src/main/resources/wpkg/
 
 
  2012-09-06 14:43:53, ERROR   : Could not process (downgrade)
 
 Finally the checks fail since no changes were performed to the system 
 (performed 
 downgrade, no commands, no system change, checks fail).
 
 
 HTH,
 Rainer

Hi Rainer


Your explanation makes a lot of sense to me, Thanks!

Actually, in the first e-mail, i was asking for how to get even more
info than 0xFF, because i was not understanding why i was having a
'downgrade'.

Here is my libreoffice.xml file:

--
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
packages
xmlns:xsi=http://www.wpkg.org/packages;
xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation=../xsd/packages.xsd 

package id=libreoffice
name=LibreOffice
revision=%PKG_VERSION%
reboot=false
priority=10
variable name=shortversion value=3.6.1 /
variable name=PKG_VERSION  value=%shortversion
%-0 /
variable name=PKG_SOURCE   value=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6 /

depends package-id=java7 /

check type=uninstall condition=versiongreaterorequal
path=LibreOffice .+ value=%shortversion% /

install

Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-12 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 11-09-2012 a las 12:28 +1000, Patrick CAHILL escribió:
 Carlos,
 yes but you have to remember that the Check has what is currently
 installed on the Client on the Left of the GreaterThanorEqual and
 whats packaged on the Server on the Right.
 
 
 If  [Currently_Installed_on_Client]  Is  [GreaterThanOrEqual]
 To  [Package_on_Server]  Then  [Upgrade]
 If  [3.5.1]  is  GreaterThanOrEqual  To  [3.6.1]  Then  [Upgrade]
 So 3.5.1 has to be Larger or Equal to 3.6.1 for the Upgrade to occur,
 this will never happen, 3.5 is never bigger than 3.6 (which you will
 note is why the check system never checks the final .1 in your log, it
 stops after .5 = .6)
 
 
 As far as I can tell, GreaterThanOrEqual should be used to Upgrade
 to a lower version, a Downgrade if you will.
 
 
 Imagine if you have 3.6.1 installed but it has some bad problem on
 your systems, you could create a package with the check...
 If  [3.6.1]  is  GreaterThanOrEqual  To  [3.5.1]  Then  [Upgrade]
 This will Upgrade to the lower version.
 
 
 Typically you want to upgrade to a higher version, so you should use
 LessThan or LessThanOrEqual
 If  [Currently_Installed_on_Client]  Is  [LessThan]  [Package_on_Server]  
 Then  [Upgrade]
 If  [3.5.1]  is  LessThan  [3.6.1]  Then  [Upgrade]
 
 
 I hope this helps (and that it is correct) ;)
 
 
 -Pat Cahill
 
 
 On 11/09/12, Carlos R. Pasqualini pasquali...@fcal.uner.edu.ar
 wrote:
  El mar, 11-09-2012 a las 09:32 +1000, Patrick CAHILL escribió:
   Carlos,
   can you try something for me?
   In your LibreOffice Upgrade definition, replace
   'versiongreaterorequal' with 'versionsmallerthan'
   
   
   The way I read the documentation is...
   
   
   IF [the_version_installed] IS [condition] [the_version_packaged]
   THEN install/upgrade
   
   
   So your error is actually logically correct.
   If [3.5] is [Greater Than or Equal To] [3.6] then Upgrade
   
   
   Your return code is -1 which in a tri-state (less, equal, greater)
   like this is usually lessthan, which is correct.
   (A less than B = -1, A equal B = 0, A greater than B = 1)
   
   
   The reason I say use ''versionsmallerthan' rather than
   'versionlessorequal' is that I think you only want to upgrade if
  the
   version installed is smaller, if its the same as is in the package
   then you dont want to install again.
   
   
   Even if I am wrong, its only a quick one word change.
   
  
  I will give it a try tomorrow, but that doesn't have any sense; we
  are
  talking about the 'check' condition, it is supposed to check if the
  package is already installed/upgraded and not if WPKG needs to do
  some
  work...
  
  See http://wpkg.org/Packages.xml#Check_conditions_.2F_check_type
  says:
  
  ---
  Of course it would be unwise to launch the installer if the software
  is
  already installed. That's why there are check conditions.
  The check conditions are also used after the installer has finished
  to
  verify that the software has actually been successfully installed.
  ---
  
  so i'm making the check condition against the new version of the
  package, not the older one; i want to have installed in this system
  this
  version or any greater version (if it was installed manually)
  
  
  
  Best Regards


Dear Pat


i really thank you for taking time to answer other user's questions, but
i think you are really wrong.

I will insist, the check is to see if the installed version complies
with the package's requirements.

As I understand the check / does not have any inference in the
decision of upgrading or downgrading a package.


I would like to have some other users to give her thoughts on this.




Best Regards


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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-12 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 20:39 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 12.09.2012 19:43, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
  As I understand the check / does not have any inference in the
  decision of upgrading or downgrading a package.
 
 
 The checks are defined to make sure the version to be installed with the 
 current package is installed correctly.
 
 In general this means different things in different situations.
 
 1) initial install (no entry in local wpkg.xml file):
 check if software is already installed to prevent double installation
 
 2) upgrade and downgrade (previous entry in local wpkg.xml file):
 check if up-/downgrade really succeeded
 this can be changed with some package attributes to check before
 up-/downgrading
 
 3) remove (package is no longer applied through a profile):
 make sure the package is installed before it will be removed
 

That is what i have been understanding, so it seems Pat has the wrong
view of what check / does.
isn't it?

 
 
 What does the number after the hyphen mean in your version number?
 
 x.y.z-a ... what means a?

i reserve the last value for reviews of the .xml file with the same
version of the installer.

suppose i have a 1.2.3 version of the package, i'll create a 1.2.3-0
revision of the xml, and if i found something wrong in the XML file, i
can create 1.2.3-1 ... 1.2.3-9 without having trouble with the possibly
upcoming version 1.2.4 of the package.

It's just used by me.

¿do you think it's bad to do that?

 
 In general this should be solvable by using:
  downgrade include=remove/
  downgrade include=install/
 

i this particular case, i do not need to execute remove before install,
because i'am not really downgrading, i'm upgrading but WPKG thinks i'm
downgrading, apparently there was an error in a previous version of the
xml file (i'm trying to understand what have happened).

By the way, i have no way to know all the remove commands for every
package's version; as i understand, i cannot use the remove command of
other version of the XML package because it will call the remove section
of the current version of the XML package, not the remove section of the
installed version of the package; to call the remove section of the
installed package, i need to remove the package from the profile.



Best Regards


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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG on Windows 7

2012-09-12 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 11-09-2012 a las 16:04 +0200, Marco Gaiarin escribió:
 + WPKG-GP have notification messages, but only on startup (and my
   experience say me that doing installation on startup is a pain). 

i have not found any other way to reliably install software on Win7
without WPKG-GP (yes, on startup...)



can we talk of WPKG-GP specific problems in this list?

I'm having some trouble with WPKG-GP + Win7 because it tries to start
before the computer have access to the network.


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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-10 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El vie, 31-08-2012 a las 23:53 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 31.08.2012 23:45, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
  Today i found an error on a package description, i suspect that type of
  errors are the source of troubles, but i need to debug and find others,
  and the output of /debug apparently is not showing all the info i need
  to understand the trouble.
 
 
 It is all about reading the log file, you just need to make sure the log 
 level is set to 0xFF.
 
 You could post the offending portion of the log too.
 


Here is another log, again with Libre Office

What do you think?
where should i search for an error?
it does not even try to execute the install command, it has no sense to
me.


Thanks for your time!


2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package
'LibreOffice'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'shortversion' of value
'3.6.1'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_VERSION' of value '%
shortversion%-0'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_SOURCE' of value '%
SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.6'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'shortversion=3.6.1'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_VERSION=%
shortversion%-0'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_SOURCE=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Install type: downgrade
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Fetched 0 downgrade command(s).
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Checking existence of package:
LibreOffice
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package
'LibreOffice'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'shortversion' of value
'3.6.1'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_VERSION' of value '%
shortversion%-0'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_SOURCE' of value '%
SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.6'
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'shortversion=3.6.1'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_VERSION=%
shortversion%-0'.
2012-09-10 18:56:00, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_SOURCE=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6'.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Uninstall entry 'LibreOffice 3.5' matches
expression 'LibreOffice .+'.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Found version of 'LibreOffice .+' at HKLM
\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
\{EF790F1C-CB0C-4B95-8C54-60783F3B6661}: 3.5.4.2|Comparing to expected
version: %shortversion%.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Comparing version: '3.5.4.2' = '3.6.1'.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Comparing version fragments: '3' = '3'
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Comparing version fragments: '5' = '6'
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Comparing uninstall version '3.5.4.2' to
expected version '3.6.1' using condition 'versiongreaterorequal'
returned -1.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Uninstall version check for package
'LibreOffice .+' returned false for operation type
versiongreaterorequal.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Searching for previously executed checks
with attributes type='uninstall', condition='versiongreaterorequal',
path='LibreOffice .+', value='%shortversion%'
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Unable to find any previously executed
checks with these attributes.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Saving unsorted settings to 'C:\WINDOWS
\system32\wpkg.xml'.false
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Saving XML : C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
2012-09-10 18:56:01, ERROR   : Could not process (downgrade)
LibreOffice.|Failed checking after installation.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Cleaning up temporary downloaded files
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Restoring previous environment.
2012-09-10 18:56:01, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]




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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-10 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El lun, 10-09-2012 a las 19:50 -0300, Carlos R. Pasqualini escribió:
 El vie, 31-08-2012 a las 23:53 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
  Am 31.08.2012 23:45, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
  
   Today i found an error on a package description, i suspect that type of
   errors are the source of troubles, but i need to debug and find others,
   and the output of /debug apparently is not showing all the info i need
   to understand the trouble.
  
  
  It is all about reading the log file, you just need to make sure the log 
  level is set to 0xFF.
  
  You could post the offending portion of the log too.
  
 
 
 Here is another log, again with Libre Office
 
 What do you think?
 where should i search for an error?
 it does not even try to execute the install command, it has no sense to
 me.
 
 
 Thanks for your time!
 

Here is the libreoffice's package XML

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
packages
xmlns:xsi=http://www.wpkg.org/packages;
xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation=../xsd/packages.xsd 

package id=libreoffice
name=LibreOffice
revision=%PKG_VERSION%
reboot=false
priority=10
variable name=shortversion value=3.6.1 /
variable name=PKG_VERSION  value=%shortversion
%-0 /
variable name=PKG_SOURCE   value=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6 /

depends package-id=java7 /

check type=uninstall condition=versiongreaterorequal
path=LibreOffice .+ value=%shortversion% /

install cmd='msiexec /qn /i %PKG_SOURCE%\LibO_%shortversion%
_Win_x86_install_multi.msi ALLUSERS=1 CREATEDESKTOPLINK=1
REGISTER_ALL_MSO_TYPES=0 ISCHECKFORPRODUCTUPDATE=0
REGISTER_NO_MSO_TYPES=1' /

upgrade include=install /

remove cmd='msiexec /qn /x %PKG_SOURCE%\LibO_%shortversion%
_Win_x86_install_multi.msi ' /
/package
/packages



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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-10 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El mar, 11-09-2012 a las 09:32 +1000, Patrick CAHILL escribió:
 Carlos,
 can you try something for me?
 In your LibreOffice Upgrade definition, replace
 'versiongreaterorequal' with 'versionsmallerthan'
 
 
 The way I read the documentation is...
 
 
 IF [the_version_installed] IS [condition] [the_version_packaged]
 THEN install/upgrade
 
 
 So your error is actually logically correct.
 If [3.5] is [Greater Than or Equal To] [3.6] then Upgrade
 
 
 Your return code is -1 which in a tri-state (less, equal, greater)
 like this is usually lessthan, which is correct.
 (A less than B = -1, A equal B = 0, A greater than B = 1)
 
 
 The reason I say use ''versionsmallerthan' rather than
 'versionlessorequal' is that I think you only want to upgrade if the
 version installed is smaller, if its the same as is in the package
 then you dont want to install again.
 
 
 Even if I am wrong, its only a quick one word change.
 

I will give it a try tomorrow, but that doesn't have any sense; we are
talking about the 'check' condition, it is supposed to check if the
package is already installed/upgraded and not if WPKG needs to do some
work...

See http://wpkg.org/Packages.xml#Check_conditions_.2F_check_type says:

---
Of course it would be unwise to launch the installer if the software is
already installed. That's why there are check conditions.
The check conditions are also used after the installer has finished to
verify that the software has actually been successfully installed.
---

so i'm making the check condition against the new version of the
package, not the older one; i want to have installed in this system this
version or any greater version (if it was installed manually)



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Re: [wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-09-06 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
El vie, 31-08-2012 a las 23:53 +0200, Stefan Pendl escribió:
 Am 31.08.2012 23:45, schrieb Carlos R. Pasqualini:
 
  Today i found an error on a package description, i suspect that type of
  errors are the source of troubles, but i need to debug and find others,
  and the output of /debug apparently is not showing all the info i need
  to understand the trouble.
 
 
 It is all about reading the log file, you just need to make sure the log 
 level is set to 0xFF.
 
 You could post the offending portion of the log too.
 
 

here it is one case that makes me nuts:

2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Installation of references (dependencies)
for 'LibreOffice' (libreoffice) successfully finished.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, INFO: Installing 'LibreOffice' (libreoffice)...
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package
'LibreOffice'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'shortversion' of value
'3.6.1'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_VERSION' of value '%
shortversion%-0'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_SOURCE' of value '%
SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.6'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'shortversion=3.6.1'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_VERSION=%
shortversion%-0'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_SOURCE=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Install type: downgrade
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Fetched 0 downgrade command(s).
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Checking existence of package:
LibreOffice
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from hosts[s]
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package
'LibreOffice'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'shortversion' of value
'3.6.1'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_VERSION' of value '%
shortversion%-0'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Got variable 'PKG_SOURCE' of value '%
SOFTWARE%\libreoffice\3.6'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'SOFTWARE=\\capibara
\repositorio\software'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'shortversion=3.6.1'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_VERSION=%
shortversion%-0'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Setting variable: 'PKG_SOURCE=%SOFTWARE%
\libreoffice\3.6'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Uninstall entry 'LibreOffice 3.5' matches
expression 'LibreOffice .+'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Found version of 'LibreOffice .+' at HKLM
\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
\{EF790F1C-CB0C-4B95-8C54-60783F3B6661}: 3.5.4.2|Comparing to expected
version: %shortversion%.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Comparing version: '3.5.4.2' = '3.6.1'.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Comparing version fragments: '3' = '3'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Comparing version fragments: '5' = '6'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Comparing uninstall version '3.5.4.2' to
expected version '3.6.1' using condition 'versiongreaterorequal'
returned -1.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Uninstall version check for package
'LibreOffice .+' returned false for operation type
versiongreaterorequal.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Searching for previously executed checks
with attributes type='uninstall', condition='versiongreaterorequal',
path='LibreOffice .+', value='%shortversion%'
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Unable to find any previously executed
checks with these attributes.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Saving unsorted settings to 'C:\WINDOWS
\system32\wpkg.xml'.false
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Saving XML : C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
2012-09-06 14:43:53, ERROR   : Could not process (downgrade)
LibreOffice.|Failed checking after installation.
2012-09-06 14:43:53, DEBUG   : Cleaning up temporary downloaded files



Lots of other Machines have upgraded to LibO 3.6.1 without troubles...
No visible error in debug file unless this one:
Could not process (downgrade) LibreOffice.|Failed checking after
installation.
downgrade?
error without even try to execute the upgrade command in the
libreoffice.xml package?

I find this debug output insufficient to understand what's happening


Best Regards

Charly

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[wpkg-users] packages not installing/upgrading

2012-08-31 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini 
Hi people!


i'm having trouble with upgradings trough wpkg and cannot find any way
to debug it ¿is there a debug howto or something? i couldn't find any
info about it.


best regards

Charly




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