Re: [wpkg-users] Install of DirectX - Web Installer fails with Version WPKG 1.0-rc5
Christian Böse schrieb: Oh it installs when I set the Show GUI. But when this is disabled it produce these mistakes So, DirectX installer bails out when it can't access the real display. Similar will happen when trying to change resolution with some resolution-changing tools. Are you 100% sure that it worked with a previous version of WPKG Client? And that it's exactly the same DirectX installer with exactly the same installation flags? I tested it again and sorry the previous version also produce this mistake. It only solves the problem to enable the gui. Here installation instructions / silent flags are a bit different from the ones used by you - you might try those: http://wpkg.org/DirectX It works for me. -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Easy Software Deployment http://wpkg.org ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Install of DirectX - Web Installer fails with Version WPKG 1.0-rc5
Christian Böse schrieb: Here installation instructions / silent flags are a bit different from the ones used by you - you might try those: http://wpkg.org/DirectX It works for me. I tested this but also recieves an error that is different. The Package only describes the installation of Offline Installation Method of DirectX installation. I use the Web installer that is getting the newest DirectX files. I added this one to http://wpkg.org/DirectX Does it solve an error that is different you described earlier? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Easy Software Deployment http://wpkg.org ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.2rc6 service doesnt install or start (XP SP2)
Phil Burrow schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: This seems to be an issue for some users. Perhaps we should add a domain automatically if none was present. Right now, I'll add it to the FAQ. Sorry for the double post, but having read your FAQ entry you describe a different issue to the one I had! I added the domain to the connection user (wpkg) rather than the one under which WPKG runs (which I left as SYSTEM). I was logged on as a local administrator on the workstation, so Windows was probably submitting WORKSTATION\wpkg as the user rather than DOMAIN\wpkg. Although the test function on the client showed OK. Oops, it looks like I confused the fields - I knew there is this issue, but forgot if it was the network user or the user executing the service. I corrected the FAQ. So, does it work fine for you now? The test should be corrected, I agree. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Easy Software Deployment http://wpkg.org ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.2rc6 service doesnt install or start (XP SP2)
Phil Burrow schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: So, does it work fine for you now? It does other than the service wont install using the client: I have to do it manually. Only have to do it once so it's not too much of a problem, though! Hmm, something is not right here. Does it work if you uninstall WPKG Client and install it again? Can you send your config.xml here? If you have any passwords, replace them with a secret word. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Easy Software Deployment http://wpkg.org ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg Forum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear list, being new to wpkg puts me into the position to be in need of information, most likely questions that have been asked and answered several times already. I've got it running after about a week now (just a test scenario with ~50 PCs) but I, and many others aswell I'd guess, found it hard to search the mailinglist-archives compared to a well categorized forum. One big point against a (seperate) forum is that information would be split, which should be avoided if possible, this is what keeps me from just sitting down and start working on one. I'd like to see your guys opinions on this, maybe other points for or against it, solutions etc.. It is by all means not my intention to create anything the majority wouldn't like or use anyway, so please let me know what you think about it. Personally, I'm not a fan of forums and find them hard to follow when compared to a plain mailing list. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Re gexp in hosts.xml - profile-id = name
delSys schrieb: mangoo wrote: Really, you have 100 *different* profiles? I know, that sounds crazy, but this file is generated automatically, so that is no problem for me. Shure, some profiles are identical, but i think nearly 75 percent of them are different. mangoo wrote: Does this one work for you I have no idea how to use these in this issue, because the problem is the same: I need the current workstation name. Is there a default variable which contains the name of the current client? That would be the easiest way. http://wpkg.org/Windows_environment_variables COMPUTERNAME? -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg Forum
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... Personally, I'm not a fan of forums and find them hard to follow when compared to a plain mailing list. Forums are for (l)user, sysadmins are addicted to lists. ;) Pratically speaking: could be that this list can be subscribed to some service like nabble or gmane that simply archive posts in a more 'forum-like' way? I think it is subscribed to both nabble and gmane already, and some others, like http://marc.info and http://opensubscriber.org, too. And of course there is http://lists.wpkg.org ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] 1.0?
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: I'm a bit lost. WPKG 1.0 are still in rc7. But looking at: http://wpkg.org/Download i see that WPKG Client is on 1.2.0 stable, where i'm still using 0.X and i've totally missed 1.0. Release plans? ;) Well, I still need to send WPKG Client 1.2.0 release announcement ;) As for WPKG 1.0, it's currently rc7 and I guess not much will change before the final release... Which should happen this year ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Product: WPKG -- Error 1722
Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: I found that this bug: http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84 is in the final wpkg client msi package (WPKG Client 1.2.0.msi), when installing as silent install with xml settings Event Log on Win machine --- Product: WPKG -- Error 1722. There is a problem with this Windows installer package. A program run as part of the setup did not finish as expected. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action _A9459942_EE79_497A_9080_F39DDA8A7B80, location: C:\Program Files\wpkg\wpkginst.exe, command: --SETTINGSFILE=\\gimli\install\settings.xml Looks like the problem Jens got just a while earlier. Umm, missing MFC71.DLL, again? Does it help if this DLL is added before installation? Yeah, some DLLs are missing. Expect a 1.2.1 soon, thanks for a report... -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg does not execute at startup
omaigad schrieb: hi, thank you for the pointer. I did tryed to look up for the answer in faq, but with no luck. I think i should mention that on startum wpkg.xml file is not created it is created only if i start wpkg through cmd line. Also do you think i should try testing releses of wpkg ? thank you for your time So, do you see a cmd window if you log in, when you set show GUI in WPKG Client? Did you use Test settings button in WPKG Client to verify you didn't specify wrong paths etc.? Are you use network credentials? I just added it to the FAQ: Also, in WPKG Client setup, add some command as execute before and execute after (commands like notepad.exe or cmd.exe) - it will pause executing until you close their windows. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Are we now at stable for the 1.2 release of WPKG Client?
matt - OpenPlan IT schrieb: Hello all, I was just downloading the WPKG client and noticed that there is a 1.2 release in the stable directory uploaded on the 15 of Feb. I was wondering whether this was the one to use over the rc6 version from december? Is it a final release? Well, yes and no. Before releasing the final 1.2 stable we upgraded our software to Visual Studio 2008 here. Which we shouldn't do. As it appears, something changed in Visual Studio, and a 1.2 final package won't install on a fresh Windows install because of some missing libraries. I think the missing library is msvcrt.dll, but I didn't have a chance to verify it on a clean system yet (any volunteer to install a fresh XP and test it?). That being said - there are *no* software differences between the latest rc and the stable release. 1.2.0 has just a proper release number (1.2.0 vs 1.0.x in the latest rc), and a missing library - which is why 1.2.0 sources are available for download, but the binaries are 1.2.0-rc6. Hope it clarifies a bit. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Are we now at stable for the 1.2 release of WPKG Client?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomasz Chmielewski Could you just try if the MSI from here: http://wpkg.org/files/client/stable/ Installs on a *fresh* Windows (Windows installed, with no additional software)? Because I receive different reports - for some users, it does work, for some, it doesn't. Also, please report Windows version (2000, XP), service packs etc. (i.e., XP Pro with SP2). Hi, I have tried it on a fresh install of Windows XP Pro with SP2, and it works flawlessly. Maybe it's language version related 8although, I doubt it)? What is your Windows language version? Jens, Vladimír - it failed for you - was it XP SP2, too? 100% sure? Nothing else which could break something? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Are we now at stable for the 1.2 release of WPKG Client?
Jens Geile schrieb: Hi, Could you just try if the MSI from here: http://wpkg.org/files/client/stable/ Installs on a *fresh* Windows (Windows installed, with no additional software)? Because I receive different reports - for some users, it does work, for some, it doesn't. Also, please report Windows version (2000, XP), service packs etc. (i.e., XP Pro with SP2). I have tried it on a fresh install of Windows XP Pro with SP2, and it works flawlessly. Maybe it's language version related 8although, I doubt it)? What is your Windows language version? Windows XP SP2 German with almost all Windows Updates including Feb 2008 installed. Jens, Vladimír - it failed for you - was it XP SP2, too? 100% sure? Nothing else which could break something? You are lucky. I just started a Windows XP installation a few minutes before you posted your first message. ;) And I'm 120% sure that it is Windows XP SP2. And since there is nothing installed but ActivePerl and the Windows Updates there shouldn't be anything that breaks the installation. So 1.2.0 final fails to install and RC6 (I think it was RC6) works flawlessly. So *maybe* it's XP SP2 *plus* all updates? And without the updates, it installs fine? /me scratches his head -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Are we now at stable for the 1.2 release of WPKG Client?
matt - OpenPlan IT schrieb: Just a quick note that the package in stable 1.2.0 is 5.25MB, more than 3 times the size of 1.2-rc6 at 1.67MB. Not sure what Visual Studio 2008 is doing there if there are no software differences? Good luck and let me know if there is any testing I can usefully do. Yes, it is caused by Visual Studio 2008. It adds some dependencies automatically the previous version wasn't adding. Go figure. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Old version reinstall - WPKG is nice but it still needs improve
Falko Trojahn schrieb: Hallo Rainer, thanx for your quick and detailed answer. Falko Trojahn wrote: Firefox updated itself, e.g. to Revision 2.0.0.13. Next time Wpkg starts, the uninstall check looks for 2.0.0.12 (which of course is missing then) and reinstalls the old version, until the xml on the server is updated, too. This is true - but non-admin users cannot do the auto-update (most users should be non-administrators). This is exactly the intended behavior. Yes, but sometimes we have applications, you know, only working with administrator rights ... Filemon and Regmon are your friends, then. Check where the program wants to write files/registry, and make those writeable by all. Involves 5-30 minutes of work, works for 99% of admin-only software, and is far better than granting admin rights to all users. (...) But this seems even unpossible to me, since in the properties of firefox.exe we have a file version changing from 1.8.1.12: 2008020121 to 1.8.20080.31114 and a product version changing from 2.0.0.12 to 2.0.0.13. Or can we distinguish between file version and product version within the checks? So, I'll next try checking only the existence of firefox.exe. But I fear that in the case there Firefox is already on the workstation and wpkg is newly installed: this check succeeds with any (older) version of Firefox, and nothing is done. I use one simple trick for some ugly software where versions etc. are unpredictable: set %UGLYSOFT%=10.2 install_this install_that echo %date% %time% C:\uglysoft\INSTALLED_%UGLYSOFT%.TXT -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client v1.0rc6 WPKG 1.0-rc8 - enviromental variable
Rainer Meier schrieb: (...) If I move the .9.10 version of wpkg back into place and reboot, the skipped installations continue. I am going to troubleshoot this issue some more. Could you post an export of the WPKG-client settings (XML export)? And probably, use verbose logging (settable in config.xml) to see where it fails? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Thanks for everything - WPKG is nice but it still needs improvement
Steve Handy schrieb: Here is the log file you requested. By the way, the documentation on the flags DOES NOT specify that /synchronize is a command. Only a flag. This explains the mistake I made earlier when you specified that I wasn't following the documentation closely in your earlier email. You're top-posting which makes the thread hard to follow. Your log file attachment is encoded, which means one has to save it to the disk first in order to view it. And commenting lines where errors happen will not be possible, because it's an attachment. And, oh, the log file you just sent is not a log file, just to save someone else's time. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Command Line Client Installer
Pierre Rivard schrieb: I'm a new user of wpkg, just trying to figure it out at the moment, basically just evaluating it right now. So far it looks like it will do what I need, and that it will be great once I get the profiles and packages set up. I was wondering if there was a way to install the client from the command prompt I was thinking of creating a self executing archive that would allow it to be easily installed by any administrator, just a zipped package with a batch file in. I noticed that the client installer is also listed as being a command line installer, but I cant find any documentation on how to use it from the command line... Anyone made an instant installer for their machines? It's a MSI file, so it will install from the command line without problems. Some installation examples were originally in the ZIP file together with the installer, but as we have only MSI left now as the installer, obviously the examples are gone, too... You can find the examples in a ZIP file here: http://wpkg.org/files/client/ I'll add some command line instructions here later today: http://wpkg.org/WPKG_Client - thanks for noticing. -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Command Line Client Installer
Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Pierre Rivard schrieb: (...) installer, but I cant find any documentation on how to use it from the command line... Anyone made an instant installer for their machines? It's a MSI file, so it will install from the command line without problems. Some installation examples were originally in the ZIP file together with the installer, but as we have only MSI left now as the installer, obviously the examples are gone, too... You can find the examples in a ZIP file here: http://wpkg.org/files/client/ I'll add some command line instructions here later today: http://wpkg.org/WPKG_Client - thanks for noticing. Command line instructions are there now - see http://wpkg.org/WPKG_Client Let me know if it needs some extra explanation (or simply add it yourself). -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install the wpkg client manually
Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Kent Tong schrieb: Hi, Is it possible to install the wpkg client manually (as opposed to running the msi file)? I am asking because trying to install the wpkg client v1.2.0 on our Windows 2003 Terminal Server failed with the error This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. It *should* work if you have the files usually found in %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg. But I'll verify if it really works - will keep you updated later today, with some instructions if it works. That being said, perhaps a better idea would be to try to find out why it fails to install in the first place. Did you try WPKG Client 1.2.0 or 1.2.0-rc6? I know the 1.2.0 version failed to install for at least two people, but 1.2.0-rc6 worked in the same environment - but I can't reproduce it, unfortunately. To install it manually, do (tested on XP SP2): 1. You need the files - the easiest way is to install WPKG Client on one machine, and copy contents of %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg\ to another machine 2. Start cmd.exe and run: prompt cd %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg prompt wpkgsrv /install WPKG Service installed. If it throws an error, there is something fishy. 3. Configure settings: prompt wpkginst Put notepad as execute before, and check Show GUI. 4. Start the service - it should start notepad.exe: prompt net start WPKG service It should start without errors, and notepad.exe should start shortly. If it works, configure the setting properly (users, paths etc.). -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Cannot install wpkg on W2k3 Terminal Server
Alan Au schrieb: Hi, I tried to install wpkg 1.2.0 on W2k3 Terminal Server but failed with the error as the attached image. http://www.nabble.com/file/p16087939/install%2Bwpkg.jpeg Would any expert help? Probably, the installer needs some love on Windows 2003. I can't give you any help right now, and what's worse, I don't have access to a Windows 2003 installation I could experiment on. But of course this issue should be fixed. Do you have any errors in Event Log as it happens? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Cannot install wpkg on W2k3 Terminal Server
Alan Au schrieb: HI, Rainer, I have tried 1.2-rc6 , but got the same error. Any Event Log entries? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Cannot install wpkg on W2k3 Terminal Server
Alan Au schrieb: HI, Rainer, I have tried 1.2-rc6 , but got the same error. And one more thing. Could you: 1. Install WPKG Client on another machine (i.e. XP) 2. On Windows 2003, download Dependency Walker from http://www.dependencywalker.com/ 3. Start Dependency Walker, load each WPKG file to see if there are any missing libraries? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install the wpkg client manually
Falko Trojahn schrieb: Hi Tomasz, To install it manually, do (tested on XP SP2): 1. You need the files - the easiest way is to install WPKG Client on one machine, and copy contents of %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg\ to another machine 2. Start cmd.exe and run: prompt cd %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg prompt wpkgsrv /install WPKG Service installed. If it throws an error, there is something fishy. 3. Configure settings: prompt wpkginst Put notepad as execute before, and check Show GUI. 4. Start the service - it should start notepad.exe: prompt net start WPKG service It should start without errors, and notepad.exe should start shortly. If it works, configure the setting properly (users, paths etc.). Could you please add this to the Wiki, too? Perhaps the possibility to download a zip with the wpkg client files without the installer/msi would be nice to have, a small script - something like - net stop wpkgservice xcopy /v /s /i /e /h /c /y /q %install_loc%\wpkgclient %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg cd %PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg wpkgsrv /install net start wpkgservice - (untested) could be enough to install ... Most likely it won't be enough, as some libraries will be missing. Questions remaining: What about wgalogon.dll? Is it registered when wpkgsrv /install is started? Hmm, wgalogon.dll? Windows Genuine Advantage? It doesn't come with WPKG. And is there something like wpkgsrv /uninstall? There is /remove flag - I added all info here: http://wpkg.org/WPKG_Client -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Profile inconsistency when using separate files instead of a single file
Sébastien BEAUDLOT schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski a écrit : You need packages (...) /packages around. So: packages package id=wpkg-client ... /package /packages Whups I'd really thought that separate files packages were included in the main packages/packages. So it's working great now ! Should be clearly added to Wiki for dumb guys like me ! I added an example here: http://wpkg.org/Packages.xml#Individual_XML_package_files BTW, your clock seems skewed? Your posts appear as sent in the past. -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG is a great program: Want to apologize for earlier remarks
Stevester schrieb: Good Afternoon Everyone, I wanted to apologize to whomever was offended by the comments i made earlier about WPKG. I stated WPKG needs improvement, and it really doesn't need any improvement. The creators of WPKG made a great piece of work. This is *exactly* what we are thinking, too. We were actually thinking of removing some selected features and introducing new bugs. It's not decided yet, so stay tuned. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Powershell and WPKG
Stevester schrieb: Good Afternoon, Has anyone had success with using WPKG and powershell together? What are you trying to achieve? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Powershell and WPKG
Steve Handy schrieb: I am trying to see if WPKG can force a desktop to execute a powershell to perform certain functions such as establishing local group policy. WPKG just executes commands you specify. As long as these command work without user interaction when you start them as a privileged user, such as Administrator or SYSTEM, these commands should also work when started by WPKG. It shouldn't matter if it's PowerShell, Perl, Python etc. (as long as the appropriate interpreter is installed). -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] MS Office 2007 silent installer query
Dave Ewart schrieb: Hello, I'm looking at http://wpkg.org/MS_Office_2007 and am a little confused. There are two package install variants shown. Is the second one supposed to replace the first, given the problem noted with the first? If so, presumably the first one should be removed. If that's not the case and both are required, is one supposed to run the first package once, then use the second? Clarification would be appreciated from anyone that uses this. The second entry looks invalid to me? But someone might confirm and correct, it's no rocket science ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] New WPKG user
Joel Levin schrieb: Can anybody suggest the best place for a new WPKG user to find the best introductory support? There seems to be so many variables and options that is looks quite confusing. I have been able to make a basic batch script successfully run the loading of one application, then subsequently, the upgrading to another version. There is a real lack of instructional materials available--so I am confused on the next step--to attempt to create a script and other profiles and packages which will work. I have been reading many of the list serv threads--however the material being discussed in the majority of these discussions is much too advanced for me at present. The answer to your question (and a complete manual) is here: http://wpkg.org/TODO_list#Documentation Oh, wait, it's still on a TO DO list? Right. It doesn't exist. Yes, it's weak point. If you (or someone else) want to help here, we'd be glad to see a complete manual. But no one is really counting on it. What could be a good start are just 10-15 points/topics suggestions for such a manual. Then, they could be expanded and described with more detail. Does it sound fair? Another question is that in the initial download of WPKG there are three folders PROFILE, PACKAGES AND HOSTS along with the three individual files profiles, packages and hosts. Are the items in the folders simply example files? Yes, they are example files. When I am actually running my scripts--shold I delete those files? You should replace them with your own. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask, but try to avoid putting several unrelated questions in one post (another question is...). Also, a more meaningful subject is always helpful. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer types
Joel Levin schrieb: Is is safe to say that any application installer with a .exe would use the .exe silent installer package? I am wondering if some applications may say they are .exe, but are actually msi. How would you know? Windows distinguishes file types by file extensions. So if you have some_installer.exe, it is 100% exe installer, not MSI (unless someone did something stupid and change the file extension). However, sometimes these .exe files contain a compressed image, containing a MSI, which is later started via msiexec upon decompression. One such example is Adobe Reader, AFAIR. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer types
Joel Levin schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: Joel Levin schrieb: Is is safe to say that any application installer with a .exe would use the .exe silent installer package? I am wondering if some applications may say they are .exe, but are actually msi. How would you know? Windows distinguishes file types by file extensions. So if you have some_installer.exe, it is 100% exe installer, not MSI (unless someone did something stupid and change the file extension). However, sometimes these .exe files contain a compressed image, containing a MSI, which is later started via msiexec upon decompression. One such example is Adobe Reader, AFAIR. Thank you for that--it helps Tomasz. Is there some way (perhaps in get info--or in properties) to test an installer to know what type of installer it actually is? Please reply to the list. I don't there is any other than starting the installer, looking at its temporary files etc. Or googling, checking installation manual, documentation, deployment instructions etc. Why do you need to know if there is a hidden MSI inside? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer types
Joel Levin schrieb: (...) Why do you need to know if there is a hidden MSI inside? When I go to the WPKG site, and look under the silent installer link, there are different scripts for the various types of installers. I experienced some problems when I used the wrong type of script with the wrong installer. There is no golden rule here. This might be an interesting read for you: http://unattended.sourceforge.net/installers.php -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Rainer Meier schrieb:
(...)
I have no idea. A bug? Which doesn't show up on real machines, though,
which is either good or bad.
Sure? I thought that Bug 106 is reporting a problem where WPKG service
seems to wait for the maximum logon delay. Probably there is really an
issue. If I have some spare time I will try to verify it on my VMWare.
Bug 106 is a problem, but it's really hard for me to communicate with
the bug reporter.
So it may or may not be an invalid report.
@echo off
ping -n 1 IP of server NUL
exit /b %errorlevel%
This script returns 0 if the server is reachable and 1 if not. I've
tested this on the command line.
The script is rather simple and primitive, but already contains an
error ;) - it won't work with /b switch.
Although this script will exit with non-zero code, /b prevents closing
of cmd.exe. A while later cmd.exe exits with code 0, and...
No. The 'exit /b %errorlevel%' is entirely correct. See 'exit /?'. On my
Vista it reads:
It is a correct switch, but using it prevents passing a proper exit code
to WPKG Client.
[...]
/B specifies to exit the current batch script instead of
CMD.EXE. If executed from outside a batch script, it
will quit CMD.EXE
[...]
So when using exit /b within a script you can exit a script with a
certain exit code (%errorlevel% inserts the exit code of the immediate
previous command).
Whether /b is used or not, it will exit a script with certain exit code.
When /b is not used, then exit will not only exit the
current script but terminate the whole CMD.EXE process.
In other words, without /b, cmd.exe will terminate with exit code
specified in exit command.
With /b, cmd.exe will exit with exit code 0.
When we want to fetch the exit code in WPKG Client, /b switch must not
be used.
Which means that
if you run exit within a script invoked by another one ('call
script.cmd') it will never return and continue in the calling script but
terminate completely. If 'exit /b code' is used, it will terminate the
called script returning the specified code.
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Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Rainer Meier schrieb: (...) So scripts should never exit using 'exit code' from my point of view. Using 'exit /b code' perfectly serves the purpose and works in every case (no matter if your script is the topmost or one of the called ones. We're talking about two different things and it makes a difference if /b is used or not: prompt echo exit /b 1 1.bat prompt cmd /c 1.bat prompt echo %errorlevel% 0 prompt echo exit 2 2.bat prompt cmd /c 2.bat prompt echo %errorlevel% 2 -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
[wpkg-users] WPKG 1.0 released
It's been almost two years since the latest stable WPKG release: I'm happy to announce WPKG 1.0, which includes lots of useful features and bugfixes. See the full changelog on http://wpkg.org/files/stable/Changelog-1.0 -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG 1.0 released
Jens Geile schrieb: Hi, It's been almost two years since the latest stable WPKG release: I'm happy to announce WPKG 1.0, which includes lots of useful features and bugfixes. Awesome. :) Any idea when we can expect a new version of WPKG Client? (Maybe one I can actually install :p) I hope it will happen this month... 1.2-rc6 should install just fine, though. I'm especially interested in using the sendstatus feature introduced in WPKG 1.1.0-M3. This will have to wait a bit longer. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Dieter Scholz schrieb: (...) Today I've had time to test a setup with without VMware. This time I used W2K for testing. The result was that the VMware setup waited for the timeout to end a on my 'real' box offline mode with logon delay worked as it should. Very strange ... this is the first time I found such strange behaviour inside a virtual machine. And I do a lot of testing with it ... But - once again and please don't flame me for that :-) - don't you think that if wpkg reported in the log 'Server connection failed' and still starts trying to call the script on the network share, it has nothing to do with VMware networking because the evaluation has already took place if a network share is available or not? And don't you think a more robust implementation of the 'is server available' check that would even work under VMware would be better (I'm sorry I cannot help you with that, 'cause I 've no clue in Windows programming - but I offer my help as a tester)? Yep, something must be wrong, somewhere. I wonder how it behaves in Qemu. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Do you use WPKG? Tell us how! http://wpkg.org/Testimonials ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] LogonUser problem when testing WPKG Client settings
Dieter Scholz schrieb: (...) If I change back to SYSTEM everything works fine again. Perhaps I should mention I'm using Windows 2000 SP4 without any additional patches. Additionally, I rechecked my XP setup and I found that the wpkg service uses the SYSTEM account, too. But I specified a real account with admin privileges. But on that maschine the tests do not fail and the error described above does not occur. The service itself is started from a SYSTEM account and generally you shouldn't change it. Only later it switches the user to whatever you configured in wpkginst.exe. So as far as I understand, it works properly for you (i.e., the service starts properly), but the Test settings... button does not give you proper results if you configure WPKG Client to start as a local administrator in wpkginst.exe? In practice, it may work like that in certain circumstances, because: 1. Service starts originally as SYSTEM, later switches to a configured account 2. You start wpkginst.exe as a local Administrator, and when you press Test settings..., it fails to do some things. This may be because of some security settings in Local Policies, as Rainer mentioned. With the default Windows XP SP2 installation, testing settings works for me if I use a local Administrator account (although I have to admit I didn't test it on a 100% fresh installation). Moreover, changing Log on as Service settings doesn't change anything for me, so perhaps it is defined somewhere else, too. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installed client version 1.2-RC6, About shows version 1.0.6
Tor Soerensen schrieb: Hello again, I just noticed something. If i run wpkginst.exe and click about it says version 1.0.6 in the top of the window. Has the about message been updated? Or have I done something wrong when installing? Yes, version 1.2-RC6 shows 1.0.6 in About window. It is normal and you didn't do anything wrong. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] determining MSIEXEC product code?
Adam Williams schrieb:
I have a piece of software installed with WPKG and I want to uninstall
it, and the uninstall instructions from app deploy say to uninstall it with:
MSIEXEC.EXE /X {PRODUCTCODE} REMOVE=ALL /Q
but, how do I figure out what the product code of the application is?
If you have it already installed, you can check it with regedit.exe:
Start regedit.exe.
Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
Press ctrl+f and type the name of that app - which can be found in
(Add/remove programs).
When it's found, look for UninstallString.
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[wpkg-users] WPKG documentation
Currently, a weak point of WPKG is lack of proper documentation, especially for new users. The TO DO list for WPKG mentions this already: Right now, documentation is in tiny little bits (different functionalities described on different pages). It isn't necessarily bad - but it isn't very friendly to new users. New documentation should be an A to Z WPKG manual, with chapters, subchapters etc. As the item is a bit long on that list, it should be addressed and I'm willing to spend some time on it. Before I start, I would like to ask you: what should be covered is such a Complete WPKG manual? In other words: what were the problems you had with WPKG when you started using it? If you spent 4 hours to deploy your first WPKG installation - what would be the info which would help you (which you needed) achieve the same in just 1 hour? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Package definition that remove some stuffs
Daniel Dehennin schrieb: Hello, As I will deploy WPKG on already installed box, I want it to remove some useless programs, I think I must do it like this: check type=logicical condition=not check type=registry condition=exists path=WHATEVER /check install cmd=command to remove the package/ Does this seems correct ? See the end of Danish characters in package definitions thread on this list for a similar discussion. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg.js crashing?
Brian May schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: Does it really crash here (i.e., cscript process is not running)? I will have to double check. If it is not still running, it is very slow (as in taking hours). I have seen it run slow other times, but not this slow. The next message should be: INFO : User notification suppressed. Message: Could you paste your config.xml? Nothing really spectacular: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ? config param name='log_file_path' value='hq\\wpkg-status' / param name='logfilePattern' value='[HOSTNAME].log' / /config Everything else is defaults. I meant, config.xml you use for wpkg.js. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg.js crashing?
Brian May schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: I meant, config.xml you use for wpkg.js. What I pasted is the only config.xml file I have. Is there support for more then one? You're correct. I must be still sleeping ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG-Client / Windows Shutdown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi Is there a way to execute the WPKG-Client-Script or the service on windows shutdown? This may be better for us because of the delay when software is installed or updated when windows starts. AFAIR, it is possible to use Windows Task Scheduler to start tasks on Windows shutdown. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Deploy Baculaclient with wpkg.
Magnus Mølbach schrieb: Has anyone managed to deploy bacula windows client with wpkg? If you have managed to do so, please send me the code. I'll publish it in the slient installer section on wpkg.org. There is an entry here: http://wpkg.org/Bacula Is it the same? You may want to verify it with your own setup / make corrections etc. -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Wrapper hints...
Jens Geile schrieb: Hi, Feel free to help ;) My JavaScript knowledge is close to zero and I've got a shitload of documentation to write myself. ;) But I'll gladly continue to provide you with test/bug reports of every new version, excessive feature requests and Windows machines you can test the scripts on. ;) Could you try if this one installs fine: http://wpkg.org/files/client/test/ ? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG-Client / Windows Shutdown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi Tomasz Thanks for your answer. There seems to be no option to execute a command with the Task Scheduler when the computer shuts down. Its possible to define a command in the group policy. Indeed, it's only possible via a policy (local or group). It might be a good idea to have this option in WPKG Client, I added it to the TO DO list. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Using SYSTEM in WPKG execution context user name
Tor Soerensen schrieb: Hi all, Thanks for the help with my previous problems! Now I am playing around with changing the user name in the WPKG execution context in the GUI client. Before I used a admin user which I know exist on the client machines. However, I had some errors in the log mentioning that there was some problem with the registry due to a service running as a regular user and not system. So how does it start now when you look into Services in Windows' Control Panel? By default, it is SYSTEM, and this value should not be changed. So, I tried setting the user name to just SYSTEM, but this doesn't work. When using SYSTEM, I get the following error WNetAddConnection2-Der opstod en uventet netværksfejl (An unexpected network error has occurred) and the service shuts down. I was inspired by the screenshots of the GUI client on the wiki, so I am wondering what I am doing wrong. Please enlighten me :-D Does the Test settings button report success? Could you paste your settings.xml file (please replace any passwords with xxx)? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: Is possible to upgrade WPKG client from 1.2-rc6 to 1.2.1 by itself automaticaly after reboot (not directly running wpkg.js) on remote machines? I tested upgrade (http://wpkg.org/WPKG) and it doesn't work: I added some (hopefully) more detailed instructions and verified that they work on my workstation: http://wpkg.org/WPKG Could you verify if it works for you? -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Brian May schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: I added some (hopefully) more detailed instructions and verified that they work on my workstation: http://wpkg.org/WPKG Could you verify if it works for you? There seem to be some typos, I changed it to: package id=wpkg name=WPKG Client 1.2.1 revision=1 reboot=false priority=10 check type=uninstall condition=exists path=WPKG / check type=file condition=versionequalto path=%PROGRAMFILES%\wpkg\wpkginst.exe value=1.0.0.8 / Oh yes. First, it was a file size check, and then I made an invalid file version check out of it. Thanks for correction. It seems to work. Can I please confirm why you use start? Is this for extra debugging? It is so that the script is started in the background. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Brian May schrieb: Brian May wrote: It seems to work. Can I please confirm why you use start? Is this for extra debugging? Looks like a race condition exists, due to using start. The process is started for upgrading wpkg, and at the same time wpkg continues and checks the latest version is already installed - but it isn't installed yet because the background task is still executing. And that check will fail, as file version will not match yet. The check will succeed on the next WPKG startup though. This is intended. Probably better just to call the batch file directly. I think killing WPKGSrv.exe will also kill its child processes: - cscript ...\wpkg.js \- any other child of cscript So I'm afraid that if we don't use start to start the script in background, taskkill would also kill our batch script, and prevent WPKG Client from upgrading? Also, when using that approach, I think it is good to add: ping -n 120 127.0.0.1 nul to make sure WPKG doesn't continue while it's killed... -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: When I upgrade WPKG client this way (without start): upgrade cmd='%COMSPEC% /C %SOFTWARE%\wpkg\wpkg_upgrade.bat' / it doesn't work, on client I see errors: Product: WPKG -- Error 1722. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A program run as part of the setup did not finish as expected. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action _25773255_2E4C_4B11_9B7E_FF3EB8BD0D64, location: C:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe, command: /install and: Could not process (upgrade) package 'WPKG Client 1.2.1' (wpkg): Exit code returned non-successful value (1603) on command '%COMSPEC% /C %SOFTWARE%\wpkg\wpkg_upgrade.bat'. and before this 2 errors some message that says: Produkt WPKG: Soubor C:\Program Files\wpkg\wpkglogon.dll je používán jiným procesem (Název: winlogon , ID: 648). wpkglogon.dll is used by another process (winlogon) So it wasn't killed for some reason. Are you using logon delay feature? Probably yes. In that case, you also have to kill wpkgmessage.exe before trying to upgrade. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: Yes I use logon delay feature, I try batch file with killing wpkgmessage.exe and I have no luck, still no upgrade is done... I try upgrade cmd with and without start upgrade cmd='%COMSPEC% /C %SOFTWARE%\wpkg\wpkg_upgrade.bat' / upgrade cmd='%COMSPEC% /C start %SOFTWARE%\wpkg\wpkg_upgrade.bat' / and same error occurs... If the same error occurs (wpkglogon.dll is used by another process), it means the process using this dll wasn't killed. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client upgrade
Rainer Meier schrieb: (...) It's an ugly work-around trying to kill applications which are currently running just to unlock these files. Especially since you never know which other applications (indexing serivice, 3rd party tools...) open the same file. So replacing a file might fail at any time. I think that's exactly the reason why an installer can queue such changes in order to be executed at next reboot. Yeah, I too hope there is some way to do it within the MSI. Writing another application which just handles updates doesn't seem to be a very good idea for me... -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg.js crashing?
Adam Williams schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: You can configure a Windows system to make a BSOD when the Event Log is full. I doubt many (non-paranoid) people use it, though. how do you do that? sounds like an evil trick I could use on friend's PCs :) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232564 If the CrashOnAuditFail registry key is set to 1 and the Security Event log is full on a computer that is running Microsoft Windows NT, Microsoft Windows 2000, or Microsoft Windows Server 2003, the following blue screen error message may be displayed... It doesn't mention XP though, you may have problems implementing it on your friend's PC ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Upgrade V0.9x to 1.0x Question 2
Simon Walters schrieb: - Original Message - From: Tomasz Chmielewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure you didn't write wscript instead of cscript? Because wscript uses Windows dialog boxes. Or perhaps you forgot to add cscript in front, and default wscript was used? SORRY! Rule 1 - always cut and past from files - don't rely on memory :( set WPKGROOT=\\suitec01\icttech\wpkg101 set PACKAGES=%WPKGROOT%\software %WPKGROOT%\wpkg.js /synchronize I just edited the usage file and didn't notice the missing cscript on the last line :( Do many people use the wscript method - just curious ? I think only those who rely on their memory ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
[wpkg-users] where is wpkg.js? was: Re: [Bug 111] Reverse dependencies aka chained installation
Meftahi, Mohammad schrieb: I have not been able to download a working client that includes the wpokg.js. I have tried to download the new 1.2.1 client, the previous versions do not seem to download either, Any idea? Please DON'T hijack threads. Have you tried http://wpkg.org/Download? -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Question about multi-domain environment
Karl schrieb: Hello, I hope my question will be answered We manage a multi-domain environment and we want to test this WPKG tool in order to deploy some programs ans patches to several domains. Is this possible? How do the rights work with this? Essentially, what you're referring to as WPKG consists of two parts: 1) wpkg.js - it's the brain of WPKG and does all package installation/upgrades, checks, logging etc. 2) WPKG Client - it's a tool which helps you start wpkg.js on your clients Technically speaking, you can use wpkg.js without WPKG Client, i.e. by starting it as a script in group policy, as a Scheduled Tasks job etc. So at this point (you only use wpkg.js) it will work with several domains, provided you start it properly. WPKG Client adds a couple of nice features, and eases the deployment, especially if you don't have a AD domain (but a Samba one). You didn't specify what do you want to achieve? I.e., do you have multiple domains, but want all your workstations access one fileserver? Assuming you give proper credentials in WPKG Client, I don't see why it shouldn't work. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] user password in settings.xml for wpkg client
Grzegorz Marszałek schrieb:
(...)
but do you know what algorithm is used to scrable password? I'd
like to recreate it my script.
Currently, there is no tool for creating the password (other than
wpkginst.exe).
But it would be a good idea to create one (command line), both for
Windows and UNIX.
Its ugly, but quick.
$ g++ xmlsettings.cc
(...)
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
coutCXmlSettings::Crypt(argv[1])endl
CXmlSettings::Decrypt(argv[1])endl;
return 0;
}
Thank you - that's great code :)
I'm really no programmer - but could we add this code to next relase
of wpkg-client?
Right now - no, as you used all our bandwidth by leaving the whole
source code in the email's body (10k sent to all 224 list members!) ;)
I'll place it in the downloads if someone asks for it once again (you're
the second person as I remember).
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Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request? /2
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Sometimes writing recipes i go totally mad following the really stupid microsoft practice to rename folders based on locale. Classical example: %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione Automatica in italian, i think: %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup in english. Can be defined somewhere (in a XML?) a table that defines, for every locale, some custom variables? Eg, something like: variables variable lcid=409,809,c09,2809,1009,2409,3c09,4009,3c09,4009,3809,1809,2009,4409,1409,3409,4809,1c09,2c09,3009 string id=STARTUPFOLDER%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Start Menu\Programs\Startup/string variable lcid=410,810 string id=STARTUPFOLDER%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione Automatica/string and use %STARTUPFOLDER% in recipes? Is there a website anywhere which describes every language possible? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request?
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: (...) So i copy this script to: %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione Automatica and change permission to prevent modification: cacls %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Menu Avvio\Programmi\Esecuzione Automatica\cleanloc.bat /e /r Users Power Users Administrators but i cannot prevent deletion, and one user can delete my file and replace with another one that simply do an 'exit 0'. AFAIK, normal users are not allowed to delete or change files in %ALLUSERSPROFILE%? This can be prevented if WPKG will have a check condition like 'hash' (md5? sha?) so we can put on the recipe the original md5 sum, and check it against the installed one. Just use execute=always? One kilobyte, is not much, you can copy it each time WPKG runs I guess? See also a changelog for 1.1.x: Added new check type: execute. This allows you to execute any script which checks if an application is installed - based on the exit code of the script. Usage: type=execute path=\\path\to\script.cmd condition=exitcodesmallerthan value=0 Evaluates true if the exit code is negative You could use any hash etc. However, remember that WPKG makes checks only once after installation. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request?
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... AFAIK, normal users are not allowed to delete or change files in %ALLUSERSPROFILE%? Some local user have 'Power Users', they have to use a plethora of educational software from the age of stone to modern macromedia ones. ;( So it's a matter of proper ACL settings I guess? In Windows, you can even set the ACLs so that the file is not removable by the admin (unless he changes the ACLs, of course), and for me a power user is someone who has even less privileges than an admin? Just use execute=always? One kilobyte, is not much, you can copy it each time WPKG runs I guess? Yes, could be. ;) I tend to not use execute=always, but clearly could be a solution. However, remember that WPKG makes checks only once after installation. ?! Newer wpkg.js does not check condition on every run? Yes, it will re-check and reinstall if the check fails, but the package is in the local wpkg.xml if that's what you meant. But if the user logs in, removes the file, logs out, and then another user logs in, the file will not be there any more - you'd have to run WPKG once again. But I think it's possible to solve your problem by setting proper ACLs on the files. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Feature request? /2
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... No problem at all, it is a feature request, i can wait all the time needed! ;) In that case, it's rescheduled to December 2010 ;) Ahem... ;-))) Speaking of 'serious' things: the thread of last week about WPKGClient and upgrade using 'delayed' file moved stopped suddenly. There's some hope to have a WPKGClient 1.2.X that use this feature and upgrade itself correctly? I'm not sure how easy (or hard) to implement it is. Surely, it will need some changes and should be fully supported in the future (without hacks). But I can't tell right now if an upgrade from 1.2.x to a newer version (1.4.x?) will be seamless. Or a proper upgrade will be available in 1.4.x onwards. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer upgrade trouble...
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: (...) PS: and if we simply throw away the .msi installer and prepare a simple batch script that do the job, copy files, setting registry keys, ... In another way: what do the .msi installer on a *upgrade* process? Can be substituted with a simple cmd script? + libraries which are in that MSI package. Yes, it should work, but will be hacky. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Jens Geile schrieb: Hi, Basically the client cable was unplugged. In reality the client was directly connected to the server through a normal ethernet cable not a cross-over cable. Mmmh... try with cable disconnected, i think it is not the same. I pulled the cable out of the NIC and at least WPKG Client's behavior is the same. The progress bar window is displayed for exactly 5 minutes as configured in settings.xml. I couldn't find it anywhere in the thread, although someone was talking about laptop here: is it a laptop? A laptop which has the disconnect the ethernet when running on a battery feature (or similar)? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer upgrade trouble...
Rainer Meier schrieb: (...) No. I don't think this is the way to go. We are building up a state-of-the-art software deployment environment and then we should install one of the core components using a hacky cmd script? NO! Probably switching to NSIS could be an alternative too. Just make sure the /S switch works properly ;-) However currently it's clearly a resource problem. WPKG 1.0 is quite stable, WPKG 1.1 is collecting new features and WPKG client suffers from some upgrade problems and probably also the delayed logon feature needs further investigation. So if somebody could provide some assistance here... Fair complaint. This is what's planned for WPKG Client 1.4: http://wpkg.org/TODO_list#WPKG_Client I made some categories there. Everything what's under important/*useful will be addressed. Do we need this will not necessarily be addressed. I need comments, comments, comments... -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
OK, so offline mode sucks right now on some machines, especially when used with logon delay. I feel it needs a small redesign. Some machines seem to enable network much later (wireless, but also some wired ones) - even if technically the network is started alreay. There WPKG will almost never work (network is technically started, but it really isn't, we can't connect - stop everything). So, what should we do in that case? We could try to connect several times for several seconds, but what to do with logon delay then? Block the user, often unnecessarily? Don't block any more, but it can happen that we eventually connect and are able to install software? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Wpkg Client issues in our environment
Erik Langeland schrieb: The first issue I discovered is that the Wpkg Client service, if it is set to Automatic start, would start while Group Policy software installations were still processing. I have also determined that in some cases, the service finishes before Windows enters wpkglogon.dll, which runs wpkgMessage.exe to display the dialog. If the service has already finished before the dialog displays, the dialog will not close until the timeout expires, unless the service is started a second time manually. My first attempt to resolve this was to change the wpkg service to Manual start and using sc start WpkgService in a Group Policy startup script to run the service. Although this resolves the first problem, it dos not always resolve the second. The second problem also appears to be more acute on notebook PCs, since the service finishes very quickly when the computer is off the network. It makes little sense to use both GPO (or its ability to deploy MSI packages) and WPKG for software deployment. If you use both and are not careful, you may find yourself in an endless loop - GPO installing packages, WPKG uninstalling, or the other way around. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Username and LDAP objects support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: First I would like to apologize for my bad English. I made patched wpkg.js file (version 1.1.0-M6), at which I tried implement new functionality I have asked here lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2008-February/002636.html . You can download this file from vorlicek.web.tiscali.cz/Files/wpkgpatch.zip . So, what are new features? At hosts.xml it's possible to use now this attributes: name system ou group username userou usergroup Hi Jindrich, This likes like a load of useful features - nice. Would you mind registering on http://bugzilla.wpkg.org and attaching your comments and a link to your post on the mailing list? This way, it'll be easier to track the changes, status etc. I also added Daniel Dehennin to CC: - he mentioned he wanted to implement some of these features lately. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client v1.2.1 and slipstreamed WinXP SP3 - fails
Paul Griffith schrieb: Greetings, I just tried to install WPKG Client v1.2.1 with WinXP SP3 (slipstreamed) and it failed, v1.2r6 installed without any problems. Anyone tried a slipstream WinXP SP3 ? Here is part of the log file: MSI (s) (E8:84) [13:34:53:000]: Product: WPKG -- Error 1901. Error attempting to read from the source install database: C:\WINDOWS\Installer\569be! Error 1901. Error attempting to read from the source install database: C:\WINDOWS\Installer\569be.msi. I didn't yet try to install WPKG Client with XP SP3. But this issue is a good opportunity to test it - I'll report back once I reproduce it (or not) with XP SP3. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client v1.2.1 and slipstreamed WinXP SP3 - fails
Rainer Meier schrieb: Hi Paul, Paul Griffith wrote: I just tried to install WPKG Client v1.2.1 with WinXP SP3 (slipstreamed) and it failed, v1.2r6 installed without any problems. Anyone tried a slipstream WinXP SP3 ? I just did the same on a test installation within VirtualBox - fresh RIS setup with Slipstreamed SP3. Upgrade path of the RIS image: - Original Windows XP SP1 german (did not try EN yet) - Slipstreamed SP2 - Slipstreamed various patches - Slipstreamed SP3 It installed just fine for me on a slipstreamed SP2 + manually installed SP3 - both GUI (2x click on a MSI file) and CLI (msiexec /qb /i ... SETTINGSFILE ...). -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install apps at logon instead of boot?
Joe schrieb: Is there a way (by using the wpkg windows client) that apps can be installed when a user logs on instead of when the computer boots? The user will not have admin rights. Can the wpkg service somehow be told to start processing at logon? With WPKG Client, no it's not possible. But if I remember correctly, it is possible to do so using Windows Task Scheduler, and perhaps Policies, too. Why do you want to install software when the user logs in? I wouldn't recommend it, because the user can easily prevent an installation or upgrade in some cases (i.e., by opening a file which needs to be replaced). -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install apps at logon instead of boot?
Joe schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: I have users who never restart the computer for months. You can use Windows Task Scheduler to stop / start WPKG service daily or weekly i.e. at night. You could use such a simple .bat script: net stop WPKG service net start WPKG service What about a user who logs out before the task runs? Will the task still run with no one logged in? Yes, everything should work fine, as WPKG service does not depend on user's desktop or if he/she is logged in or not. We could run it during the day but what happens when a user tries to run a program that is being installed/updated? WPKG service runs in the background, and it shouldn't matter if the user is logged in or not. It *shouldn't* - because if the user runs a program, its upgrade will likely fail. You could forcibly log out the users, but you risk loosing the work they didn't save etc. That's why running it during bootup makes most sense. If you have the users who do not reboot their workstations, you have to take additional measures. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install apps at logon instead of boot?
Joe schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: Joe schrieb: Is there a way (by using the wpkg windows client) that apps can be installed when a user logs on instead of when the computer boots? The user will not have admin rights. Can the wpkg service somehow be told to start processing at logon? With WPKG Client, no it's not possible. But if I remember correctly, it is possible to do so using Windows Task Scheduler, and perhaps Policies, too. Why do you want to install software when the user logs in? I wouldn't recommend it, because the user can easily prevent an installation or upgrade in some cases (i.e., by opening a file which needs to be replaced). I have users who never restart the computer for months. You can use Windows Task Scheduler to stop / start WPKG service daily or weekly i.e. at night. You could use such a simple .bat script: net stop WPKG service net start WPKG service -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client v1.2.1 and slipstreamed WinXP SP3 - fails
Paul Griffith schrieb: On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:12:52 -0400, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: Rainer Meier schrieb: Hi Paul, Paul Griffith wrote: I just tried to install WPKG Client v1.2.1 with WinXP SP3 (slipstreamed) and it failed, v1.2r6 installed without any problems. Anyone tried a slipstream WinXP SP3 ? I just did the same on a test installation within VirtualBox - fresh RIS setup with Slipstreamed SP3. Upgrade path of the RIS image: - Original Windows XP SP1 german (did not try EN yet) - Slipstreamed SP2 - Slipstreamed various patches - Slipstreamed SP3 It installed just fine for me on a slipstreamed SP2 + manually installed SP3 - both GUI (2x click on a MSI file) and CLI (msiexec /qb /i ... SETTINGSFILE ...). I found my problem, the size of the WPKG Client on our samba server is 2450KB and the copy I just downloaded is 5561KB. It look like I had a bad download. Sorry!! At least we knows it work on Win XP3 ;) Good. Maybe it would be a good idea to put a md5sum and size of the packages on the download page? Anyway, WPKG Client 1.4 is being worked on, and most stuff from http://wpkg.org/TODO_list#WPKG_Client will be addressed (hopefully: there are still some tests running if it's possible to start the whole routine properly on shutdown/reboot). There are some problems with the reported logon delay window being shown longer than necessary (i.e., when the network cable is not plugged in), but the bug is harder to spot than expected. If anyone has a system which shown this behaviour, and can offer a remote login, please let me know. -- Tomasz Chmielewski - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] install apps at logon instead of boot?
Joe schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: WPKG service runs in the background, and it shouldn't matter if the user is logged in or not. It *shouldn't* - because if the user runs a program, its upgrade will likely fail. You could forcibly log out the users, but you risk loosing the work they didn't save etc. That's why running it during bootup makes most sense. If you have the users who do not reboot their workstations, you have to take additional measures. What would the difference be between stopping/starting the wpkg service via the task scheduler versus running wpkg.js via the task scheduler? Almost no difference. With WPKG Client it is easier to specify different network credentials, there are some additional features, and is generally more user-friendly. But for the systems which are running 24/7 it shouldn't make a big difference. Especially when the admin understands his/her job ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Viewing software installed on workstations
Rainer Meier schrieb: Hi Joe Joe wrote: Ok... Thanks... I was going crazy for a bit trying to figure out why the files never matched. Might want to add this to the docs on http://wpkg.org/Viewing_software_installed_on_workstations You're very welcome. In fact the Execute after feature has been introduced later on - so the hint on the web-page was correct at that time - but now there is a better solution available (at least I think it is better). I updated the above page. Is it more readable now, Joe? If not, please correct it or tell us where the explanation could be improved. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Package Renaming [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Michael Chinn schrieb: I was planning a mass rename of existing packages to conform with a new naming priority convention and just wondered if anyone else has attempted this? Would it be best to remove the local wpkg.xml prior to wpkg.js execution so that all the packages reperforms their checks? I can for see some issues with 'execute once' pkgs running again Yeah, removing wpkg.xml seems to be the easiest way if you renamed your packages. As you said, you will have problems with packages with no checks (execute once) - they will be started once again. If there are no big installers there, it shouldn't be a problem, though. Another thing you could do is to do the changes in wpkg.xml. The easiest would be if you kept this in one place (on a remote server - settable in config.xml). If this file is stored locally, you may use WPKG Client and execute before / after to rename entries in wpkg.xml. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG and Vista UAC
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: Hi I have found problem with Vista machines and UAC enabled. When WPKG client starts on Vista machine and start installing some SW a see in event log permission errors (about need to elevate user rights, although user installing SW is member of domain admins group) I have czech Windows so I apologize for mistakes in translation. Is possible to install SW with WPKG correctly on Vista with UAC enabled? Without UAC everything works fine... Does it also happen if you configure WPKG Client to start as a SYSTEM user? I don't have Vista, unfortunately. Enyone else using Vista seeing this, too? Anyway, I'll forward this issue to a WPKG Client developer more familiar with Vista... Or, if you really have to start the service as a domain administrator, you may have more luck asking a Windows-specific newsgroup this question: How can I disable UAC for only one domain Administrator, but leave UAC on for each and every other user? Let us know about your findings... -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG and Vista UAC
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: No I am installing SW with WPKG Client (service) and errors in event log I read after WPKG client finished installing SW. But service run with account, which is member of Domain Admins group (because I have to connect to network disk, where is SW which is installed) Is possible run wpkg service with SYSTEM account and install SW from network disks and without error messages (elevated user rights)? Yes - start wpkginst.exe. You have two types of credentials to use: WPKG execution context - the user which executes the service WPKG path user - user for accessing the network shares -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Hi, Everyone experiencing logon delay window being shown when the network cable was disconnected - could you try: http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/WPKG%20Client%201.3.1-2.msi It is a test version made just to verify this problem, so please don't report other problems about this release. To use it: - uninstall the previous WPKG Client version (reboot may be needed), - yes, I meant uninstall; do not just upgrade, - install this version, use these or similar settings: a) Logon settings: logon delay of 5 minutes b) Misc settings: log to file C:\wpkg.log c) Offline mode settings: Enable offline mode + IP of your server 1) Start with the network cable plugged in, copy C:\wpkg.log, C:\wpkglogon.txt 2) Start with the network cable unplugged, copy C:\wpkg.log, C:\wpkglogon.txt If the issue is still not solved for you, reply to the list and say it doesn't work (and please send me the above mentioned files off-list). If the issue is solved, you don't have to send any files - just let me know that it works. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG and Vista UAC
Vladimír Pšenička schrieb: (...) guest user (from session setup) not permitted to access this share (install) problem is that guest user cannot access share, so I added guest ok = yes to smb.conf, before this I had Domain Admin account in WPKG execute context user, so access to share wasn't problem, but Vista with UAC didn't work (need to elevate user rights). Final I have: --- WPKG path user: domain user WPKG execution context user: SYSTEM guest ok = yes in smb.conf in share definition on samba machine --- and everything works fine on XP and Vista with UAC Note that with this setting *everyone* can access this share. What is still not clear for me: is your software share a different one from the WPKG share (the one where you keep wpkg.js)? If yes, you may indeed have problems accessing them. Using one single share for both software (installers) and WPKG (wpkg.js, config.xml, package definitions) is the recommended one I'd say. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Questions about offline mode and executing the wpkg service
Brian May schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: 1) Start with the network cable plugged in, copy C:\wpkg.log, C:\wpkglogon.txt For some reason wpkg didn't find the network path after removing and installing the version in your post. 2008-05-27 10:36:42 - WNetAddConnection2- The network path was not n found. 2) Start with the network cable unplugged, copy C:\wpkg.log, C:\wpkglogon.txt If the issue is still not solved for you, reply to the list and say it doesn't work (and please send me the above mentioned files off-list). In off-line mode, what should I see? I see: Did you see a logon delay window previously, even if the network cable was disconnected? Do you see it now, when the cable is disconnected? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Web Interface
Jeffery Yap Choon Ming schrieb: I'm new to WPKG Web Interface, anyone can have a guide to share? Did you read the INSTALL file? Note: WPKG Web Interface does not have an active maintainer, so not all features present in the current version of wpkg.js are supported. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] the remove cmd can't work
Jeffery Yap Choon Ming schrieb: Hi, Hope someone can help me. I have install the Mozilla and try our, it works fine. Unfortunately, I cant have the WPKG to remove the apps via remove cmd= Are there any steps missing? You didn't specify: 1) how you want to remove the apps (command line option to wpkg.js, package removed from profiles.xml etc.) 2) what is the error Without it, we can't help much. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
[wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
WPKG Client 1.3.2 has been released. This is *not* intended for production environments and is designed for testing purposes only. It is available for download at http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/ Changes: * When using offline mode, logon delay window was displayed longer than necessary on certain hardware setups (VMware, certain network cards etc.)- should be fixed now, but please double check, as it was tested on a limited set of hardware. * Upgrading should work even if the service is running. In fact, it probably worked earlier: prerequisite - Windows Installer 3.1 installed. * It is now possible to schedule the execution on the system shutdown. * Support for /sendStatus feature present in the milestone releases of WPKG (1.1.0-M3 and later): logon delay window will display some status messages printed by wpkg.js * Fixed bug 90 (make WPKG Client window fit on 640x480 screen resolution) * (Re)starting/stopping the service on remote machines * Some more debugging (logging to a file etc.) Still to do: * 64 bit version - it will be made when all issues in the 32 bit version are ironed out. * wpkginst.exe window layout - it's a bit messy right now. Suggestions, mockups are welcome! * Branding - possibility to change the title of the WPKG logon window (it now displays WPKG Software Deployment) and add your own logo there. When all these features are implemented and remaining issues fixed, WPKG Client will be released as 1.4.x series. Please test, report... -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... * Upgrading should work even if the service is running. In fact, it probably worked earlier: prerequisite - Windows Installer 3.1 installed. Ahem, sorry, can you explain better this? I'm stuck with WPKGClient 0.X for this, i'm curious to know how you have solved... Windows Installer 3.1 has to be installed. With it, it is able to upgrade MSI packages where there are files in use. At least it works that way when double clicked on a MSI package (it will perform an upgrade, and after installation will display a window that a reboot is needed). Didn't actually try to do it from the command line, so someone might want to check it? * It is now possible to schedule the execution on the system shutdown. Two weeks agot this seems totally impossible, what changed? A miracle? ;-))) I'd call it an investment in research and development ;) -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] Installer for windows 64 bits
Rainer Meier schrieb: As soon as a 64-bit version of WPKG client is available this step can be omitted and 64-bit WPKG client can directly call 64-bit cscript and launch wpkg.js directly. Which should happen after 32 bit version of WPKG Client 1.4.0 is released. A month or so, time permits. I'm still waiting for remarks, issues etc. for a testing 1.3.2. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: 2) effectively the install goes well, after reboot the service works and all was at the right place. But... the question about rebooting now or later WAS DISPLAYED also if 've used /qb. So you have made an installer non-silent for a silent installation system. ;) It should not display a question if you use a /noreboot flag to msiexec: msiexec /norestart ... Two more little note: 3) seems that the service log an error, but seems not a real error, probably an intended 'debug' or a mistake in marking events: Tipo evento:Errore Origine evento: WpkgService Categoria evento: Nessuno ID evento: 1 Data: 13/06/2008 Ora:17.09.01 Utente: N/D Computer: VOLDEMORT Descrizione: Starting WPKG on startup Errore? Nessuno? I didn't know there are hardcoded Italian messages in WPKG Client ;) Does it always show up? 4) i've noted that if you enable the 'stop service when all action are done' switch and there's nothing to do, windows now and then complain that 'the service start and stop too quickly', consider to add a one or two seconds delay in such case. OK. Apart that, and apart the wpkginst.exe interface that clearly need cleanup, seems to work quite well. Any ideas how to name the tabs? General?, Common? are not the best names, I guess? I've not tested the 'install on shutdown'feature: if i choose this, i can/have to disable the delay logon? Can you explain a bit? Right now, it's either on startup or on shutdown. This should change. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... It should not display a question if you use a /noreboot flag to msiexec: msiexec /norestart ... ?! msiexec does not have such a switch... http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B227091x=7y=16 Confused with documentation above? Start msiexec /?, it will present you a different set of options. (...) Does it always show up? Yes. I'll take a look. Any ideas how to name the tabs? General?, Common? are not the best names, I guess? No, now any good idea, i will recheck on monday... I've not tested the 'install on shutdown'feature: if i choose this, i can/have to disable the delay logon? Can you explain a bit? Right now, it's either on startup or on shutdown. This should change. Please, explain a bit how it works... please... Hmm, what works? It schedules either on startup or shutdown. Right now, you can't schedule the service to execute the sequence both on startup and or shutdown. But it will change soon - it will be possible to specify both (and on reboot, if possible). -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release) / execution on the system shutdown
Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Gerd Ott schrieb: Hallo, Scheduling the execution on system shutdown works fine on a XP-System here. Thanks for your investment! On a win2000 testbox (SP4, all windows-updates, installer 3.1) execution does not start on shutdown, no errors in eventlog. Perhaps it's even not possible with this OS-version? Hmm, I must check. Thanks for reporting. OK - it does start on shutdown, but it's killed very fast by the system. Not good. Investigating. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release) / execution on the system shutdown
Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Tomasz Chmielewski schrieb: Gerd Ott schrieb: Hallo, Scheduling the execution on system shutdown works fine on a XP-System here. Thanks for your investment! On a win2000 testbox (SP4, all windows-updates, installer 3.1) execution does not start on shutdown, no errors in eventlog. Perhaps it's even not possible with this OS-version? Hmm, I must check. Thanks for reporting. OK - it does start on shutdown, but it's killed very fast by the system. Not good. Investigating. I tested once again, and it works just fine. I just had a script in execute before which was exiting very fast with a non-zero exit code... Otherwise, it works fine on system shutdown on Windows 2000 SP4. Could you re-verify that it works for you? One note: when you make changes in wpkginst.exe (i.e. schedule on shutdown, before was on startup), the changes will be available when you restart the WPKG service (or machine). So if you made a change in wpkginst.exe it is proper behaviour that you didn't see it when you made a shutdown right after that. Perhaps a notice window should be shown to a user to make this clear. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Berge Schwebs Bjørlo schrieb: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:15:52PM +0200, Marco Gaiarin wrote: I've done it: C:\WINDOWS\system32msiexec /qb /i \\media\software\shareware\Utility\WPKG\WPKG Client 1.3.2.msi SETTINGSFILE=\\file\wpkg\settings.xml ALLUSERS=1 C:\WINDOWS\system32echo %ERRORLEVEL% 0 FWIW: Running msiexec witn /qn instead of /qb will not install WPKG Client 1.3.2 - Windows will complain about wpkglogon.dll being in use in the event log and refuse to install the package. (Magically, it seems to work with /qb.) Are you sure? Although msiexec complains that wpkglogon.dll and WPKGSrv.exe are in use, it will resume the installation after reboot. You may verify it i.e. in the Event Log. At least it works that way here on Windows XP. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] vnc 4.1.2 on vista
Vincent MALIEN schrieb: Hello, I use the free-ware vnc 4.1.2 from RealVNC on every computer in my enterprise to remote control it easer than the windows remote desktop connection. I use this silent installer: package id=winvnc4 name=VNC server revision=1 priority=0 reboot=false check type=uninstall condition=exists path=RealVNC_is1 / install cmd='regedit /s %SOFTWARE%\vnc\vnc4.reg' / install cmd='%SOFTWARE%\vnc\vnc-4_1_2-x86_win32.exe /sp- /silent /norestart' / install cmd='sc config winvnc4 start= demand' / remove cmd='%ProgramFiles%\RealVNC\VNC4\unins000.exe /SP- /SILENT /NORESTART' / /package but vnc 4.1.2 fails on vista when started as a service. So I can't remotely access to the computer when no user is logged in. Does someone has got a solution to this problem, using this free-ware or an other? Anything useful in the Event Log? In either case, you may find more help on RealVNC mailing list? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... Please, explain a bit how it works... please... Hmm, what works? It schedules either on startup or shutdown. Right now, you can't schedule the service to execute the sequence both on startup and or shutdown. But it will change soon - it will be possible to specify both (and on reboot, if possible). I meant: service start at boot *AND* shutdown? Or effectively the service are started only at boot *OR* shutdown? Right now, it is scheduled either at start *OR* at shutdown. This should change to both (and/or) - see some mockups here: http://wpkg.org/files/mockups/ There's no download phase, or service start at boot, parse xml and download files and then on shutdown install them? No, nothing like that, and it's not planned so far. WPKG Client just executes wpkg.js. Parsing XML is relatively fast so it doesn't make much sense to do it earlier. Downloading files at boot, executing the installation on shutdown - yeah it is some idea, but it would need a lot of changes in both WPKG (wpkg.js) and WPKG Client. With majority of installers kept on a local server, I doubt it's worth the effort. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: I forgot to say. Please, build a WPKGClient .msi installer that are able to upgrade itself as soon as possible, i think this is the real priority now, new features will come. ;) It should be able to upgrade itself, provided you have Windows Installer 3.1 installed. Doesn't it work for you? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)
Marco Gaiarin schrieb: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... It should be able to upgrade itself, provided you have Windows Installer 3.1 installed. Doesn't it work for you? I meant: release please a fixed 1.2.X version, or release 1.4.0 without loosing too much time on new feature. ;-) I think it should also upgrade if you have Windows Installer 3.1, but I didn't test it personally. -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.2 released (testing release)/execution on the s
Jens Geile schrieb: Hi, Does it (or Event Log) say failed to stop the service? Or it just take (veeery) long to stop? I can confirm that it takes (veeery) long to stop the service. During my testing I started the service manually using net start wpkgservice and even after wpkg was done with everything I cannot start the service again for like 2 minutes or so. Even net stop wpkgservice doesn't work, telling me that the service cannot be stopped in its current state. Did you have it scheduled at startup or at shutdown? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - Reporting bugs, all WPKG mailing lists http://wpkg.org/Support ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
