Re: China's Emerging Labor Movement (fwd)

2006-10-06 Thread D^Vid D^Vizio
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 Subject: China's Emerging Labor Movement
 
 China's Emerging Labor Movement
 
 By Brendan Smith, Jeremy Brecher and Tim Costello
 
 October 5, 2006, submitted to Portside
 
 Trade unionists in the US and elsewhere have long argued that
 there is no labor movement in China. They rightly point
 out that Chinese workers lack even the most basic human rights
 protections,including the rights to strike and join an
 independent union.
 
 But there's more to the story: Ten years ago, according to the
 China's Minister of Public Security, there were on average
 10,000 large-scale collective protests each year. By 2004, the
 government recorded 74,000 large-scale protests. Late last
 year, the Minister of Police announced protests had increased
 to 87,000 last year, involving well over four million workers.
 
 Four million workers! In the US we celebrated the birth of a
 new global social movement when 60,000 people showed up for the
 'Battle of Seattle' in 1999. In China there is now more than
 enough evidence of continual worker self-organization outside
 of official trade union channels to put to rest notions that
 'there is no labor movement in China'.
 
 According to Robin Munro, research director of China Labour
 Bulletin,
 
 '[W]hereas 10 years ago I think you could have said China did
 not have a labor movement, that is no longer really the
 case- there is no freedom of association for workers,but
 hitherto, people have tended to think that, therefore, there
 is no Chinese labor movement. I think the scale of worker
 unrest nowadays is so great, you can go to almost any city in
 the country now and there will be several major collective
 worker protests going on at the same time.
 
 So China now has a labor movement.This is an important point
 to just put there on the table and recognize. It is not
 organized. It is spontaneous, it is relatively inchoate. But
 then so were labor movements in most Western countries before
 trade unions were permitted. We have basically a pre-union
 phase of labor movement development in China today. It also
 has great potential, I think, for becoming a proper labor
 movement.'
 
 In the years before the passage of the National Labor
 Relations Act - known as the Wagner Actor 'Labor's Magna
 Carta' - there was no legally enforced right to organize,
 bargain collectively, or strike in the United States. But US
 workers who were denied these rights responded with their
 own pre-union phase of struggle. Thousands of workers were
 arrested or beaten and scores shot dead for trying to exercise
 these rights. For example, in 1934 alone there were three
 general strikes and a huge national textile strike - all
 marked by substantial violence.
 
 Largely in response to this upsurge, in 1935 the Federal
 government passed the Wagner Act hoping to legalize the labor
 movement and divert it into more moderate channels. According
 to a recent study by labor law historian James Gray Pope, the
 massive sit-down strikes and factory occupations of the
 following year cajoled the Supreme Court into reversing its
 own precedents and accepting the Wagner Act as constitutional.
 
 American workers did not get their rights by waiting for the
 government to provide them; rather, they began asserting rights
 they believe they were entitled to, and thereby forced
 the Congress and the courts to acquiesce.
 
 One innovative labor strategy that is being encouraged by CLB
 as a way to relate to the new emerging Chinese labor movement
 is the CC-2005 Campaign or Collective Contract 2005. (According
 to CLB staff, the Campaign's name is a slightly cheeky
 designation, thinking in terms ofSA-8000 and other Corporate
 Social Responsibility (CSR) standards.)
 
 Under existing Chinese labor law, where there is no union
 presence in a factory, workers are allowed to elect their own
 representatives to negotiate and sign a collective contract.
 With the ACFTU holding only 30% representation outside
 the government sector, CLB is trying to take advantage of this
 legal'loop-hole' by urging multi-national corporations that
 operate in China 'to pressure their supplier factories into
 allowing the workers to negotiate a proper collective contract
 in the workplace.' The innovation ofthis approach is the use
 of existing Corporate Codes of Conducts to negotiate binding
 collective agreements with enforceable rights. CLB views
 the CC-2005 campaign an opportunity to create a basic
 organizing space that is legally protected in the private
 sector.
 
 As Han Dongfang, Director of CLB, explains,
 
 'What we want to do is get this collective contract regulation
 connected, with a code of conduct, a corporate social
 

Don't Miss This Exhibition

2006-10-06 Thread Sheila Murphy
Hey, folks, I was treated to a wonderful exhibition of Cecil Touchon's work tonight at the Marshall Gallery in Scottsdale (see link below). I also had a lovely visit with Cecil himself. Bravo, Cecil! Come one, come all, to see this great work at the Marshall Gallery.Sheila http://marshallartsgallery.com/

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Re: Don't Miss This Exhibition

2006-10-06 Thread D^Vid D^Vizio
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--- Sheila Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey, folks, I was treated to a wonderful exhibition of Cecil Touchon's work 
 tonight at the
 Marshall Gallery in Scottsdale (see link below). I also had a lovely visit 
 with Cecil himself.
 Bravo, Cecil! Come one, come all, to see this great work at the Marshall 
 Gallery.

   Sheila 

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Re: Bush Signings Called Effort to Expand Power (fwd)

2006-10-06 Thread Halvard Johnson

Hey, does this Charlie Savage guy dare to challenge
the Divine Right of Presidents? How dare he! To the
rack with him! To the dungeon!

Hal

Open the mirage that calls you.
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Subject: Bush Signings Called Effort to Expand Power

Bush Signings Called Effort to Expand Power

Report sees broad strategy

By Charlie Savage

October 5, 2006 by the Boston Globe

WASHINGTON - President Bush's frequent use of signing
statements to assert that he has the power to disobey newly
enacted laws is ``an integral part of his ``comprehensive
strategy to strengthen and expand executive power at the
expense of the legislative branch, according to a report by
the non partisan Congressional Research Service.

In a 27-page report written for lawmakers, the research
service said the Bush administration is using signing
statements as a means to slowly condition Congress into
accepting the White House's broad conception of presidential
power, which includes a presidential right to ignore laws he
believes are unconstitutional.

The ``broad and persistent nature of the claims of executive
authority forwarded by President Bush appear designed to inure
Congress, as well as others, to the belief that the president
in fact possesses expansive and exclusive powers upon which
the other branches may not intrude, the report said.

Under most interpretations of the Constitution, the report
said, some of the legal assertions in Bush's signing
statements are dubious. For example, it said, the
administration has suggested repeatedly that the president has
exclusive authority over foreign affairs and has an absolute
right to withhold information from Congress. Such assertions
are ``generally unsupported by established legal principles,
the report said.

Despite such criticism, the administration has continued to
issue signing statements for new laws. Last week, for example,
Bush signed the 2007 military budget bill, but then issued a
statement challenging 16 of its provisions.

The bill bars the Pentagon from using any intelligence that
was collected illegally, including information about Americans
that was gathered in violation of the Fourth Amendment's
protections against unreasonable government surveillance.

In Bush's signing statement, he suggested that he alone could
decide whether the Pentagon could use such information. His
signing statement instructed the military to view the law in
light of ``the president's constitutional authority as
commander in chief, including for the conduct of intelligence
operations, and to supervise the unitary executive branch.

Bush also challenged three sections that require the Pentagon
to notify Congress before diverting funds to new purposes,
including top-secret activities or programs. Congress had
already decided against funding. Bush said he was not bound to
obey such statutes if he decided, as commander in chief, that
withholding such information from Congress was necessary to
protect security secrets.

Like all Congressional Research Service reports, the report,
dated Sept. 20 and titled ``Presidential Signing Statements:
Constitutional and Institutional Implications, was written
for members of Congress and was not made available to the
public. The Federation of American Scientists has posted a
copy on its website.

The report marked the latest installment in a recent debate
over the Bush administration's use of signing statements.

A signing statement is issued by the president as he signs a
bill into law. It describes his interpretation of the bill,
and it sometimes declares that one or more of the laws created
by the bill are unconstitutional and thus need not be enforced
or obeyed as written.

Signing statements date to the 19th century but were rare
until the 1980s. The Bush-Cheney administration has taken the
practice to unprecedented levels.

Bush has used signing statements to challenge more than 800
laws that place limits or requirements on the executive
branch, saying they intrude on his constitutional powers. By
contrast, all previous presidents challenged a combined total
of about 600 laws.

This year, The Boston Globe published a detailed accounting of
the laws Bush has claimed he has the power to disobey,
including a torture ban and oversight provisions in the USA
Patriot Act. The report prompted widespread concerns, but
critics have not been able to agree on precisely the nature of
the problem.

For example, the American Bar Association concluded that the
issue was the mechanism itself.

The American Bar Association called signing statements
``contrary to the rule of law and 

John Crouse and Jim Leftwich poems at The Argotist Online

2006-10-06 Thread Jeffrey Side
John Crouse and Jim Leftwich poems at The Argotist Online:

http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Crouse%20%20Leftwich%20poems.htm


268/365, John

2006-10-06 Thread Dan Waber
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pants, spread my cheeks and spray liquid shit all over this place.

40 words, 40 years
365 days, 365 people
http://www.logolalia.com/40x365


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Fwd: From Jeff Side

2006-10-06 Thread John M. Bennett



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NEW ALAN SONDHEIM WHAT WE LIVE W/ SAADET TRKVZ CD'S AVAILABLE FOR PREORDER

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim

(yes, I know, shameless self-promotion but the work is good)



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Subject: preorder alan sondheim  what welive w/ saadet
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Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread P!^VP 0!Z!^VP
I wonder about this, Alan 
The golden mean evidences itself so nicely, naturally (of course) in so many ways, I often wonder if it doesn't also exist on the temporal stage re:cycles... as an example... which COULD put it in a Mandelbrot or some other such fractal relationship re chaos.?

D^


On 5-Oct-06, at 10:54 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:

I don't think chaos or fractals relate to the gold mean - you can make any kind of display you want of course, including some that would relate - but that would be in terms of one's graphics choice.

- Alan

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Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
I'd have no idea whee it might appear - you could look at a book on 
complexity; since it's a fairly simple ratio it should be easy to locate -


- Alan


On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, P!^VP 0!Z!^VP wrote:


I wonder about this, Alan
The golden mean evidences itself so nicely, naturally (of course) in so many 
ways, I often wonder if it doesn't also exist on the temporal stage 
re:cycles... as an example... which COULD put it in a Mandelbrot or some 
other such fractal relationship re chaos.?


D^


On 5-Oct-06, at 10:54 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:

I don't think chaos or fractals relate to the gold mean - you can make any 
kind of display you want of course, including some that would relate - but 
that would be in terms of one's graphics choice.


- Alan

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P!^VP



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Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread Jim Piat



Dear D^, Folks--

My sketchy understanding of chaos theory is based 
solely on popular accounts. But isn't there some ratio that describes 
bifurcation points in many turbulent systems -- or the locations of so 
called strange attractors? That these fractal like chaotic 
systemsare notso random as previously supposed? Strictly my 
layman's question based uponmy layman's understandingor 
misunderstanding. So mine is a question to you all on the side. I 
realize the answer does not bear directly on what role the golden mean 
specificallymay or may not play in fractal systems (i.e. whether 
such a value would be fundamental structurally -- temporally or 
spatially). 

Jim Piat

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  P!^VP 
  0!Z!^VP 
  To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.WVU.EDU 
  Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Existential
  I wonder about this, Alan The golden mean evidences 
  itself so nicely, naturally (of course) in so many ways, I often wonder if it 
  doesn't also exist on the temporal stage re:cycles... as an example... 
  which COULD put it in a Mandelbrot or some other such fractal relationship re 
  chaos.?D^On 5-Oct-06, at 10:54 PM, Alan Sondheim 
  wrote:
  I don't think chaos or fractals relate to the gold mean - you 
can make any kind of display you want of course, including some that would 
relate - but that would be in terms of one's graphics choice.- 
Alanblog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com - for URLs, DVDs, CDs, 
books/etc. seehttp://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], -general directory of work: 
http://www.asondheim.orgTrace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search 
"Alan 
Sondheim"http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheimP!^VP


Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Not sure what ratio you're referencing. Chaotic systems aren't random - 
they just appear that way; the slightest change in one of the equation 
variables results in a wildly different curve.


- Alan


On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Jim Piat wrote:


Dear D^,  Folks--

My sketchy understanding of chaos theory is based solely on popular 
accounts.  But isn't there some ratio that describes bifurcation points 
in many turbulent systems -- or the locations of so called strange 
attractors?  That these fractal like chaotic systems are not so random 
as previously supposed?  Strictly my layman's question based upon my 
layman's understanding or misunderstanding.  So mine is a question to 
you all on the side.  I realize the answer does not bear directly on 
what role the golden mean specifically may or may not play in fractal 
systems (i.e.  whether such a value would be fundamental structurally -- 
temporally or spatially).


Jim Piat
 - Original Message -
 From: P!^VP 0!Z!^VP
 To: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.WVU.EDU
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: Existential


 I wonder about this, Alan
 The golden mean evidences itself so nicely, naturally (of course) in so many 
ways, I often wonder if it doesn't also exist on the temporal stage 
re:cycles... as an example... which COULD put it in a Mandelbrot or some other 
such fractal relationship re chaos.?

 D^


 On 5-Oct-06, at 10:54 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:


   I don't think chaos or fractals relate to the gold mean - you can make any 
kind of display you want of course, including some that would relate - but that 
would be in terms of one's graphics choice.

   - Alan

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   http://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], -
   general directory of work: http://www.asondheim.org
   Trace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search Alan Sondheim
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Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread mpalmer
Check out Feigenbaum constants. You have to trudge through some heavy mathematics, but the connection is there between chaos and the golden mean.mOn Oct 6, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Jim Piat wrote:Dear D^,  Folks-- My sketchy understanding of chaos theory is based solely on popular accounts.  But isn't there some ratio that describes bifurcation points in many turbulent systems  -- or the locations of so called strange attractors?  That these fractal like chaotic systems are not so random as previously supposed?  Strictly my layman's question based upon my layman's understanding or misunderstanding.  So mine is a question to you all on the side.  I realize the answer does not bear directly on what role the golden mean specifically may or may not play in fractal systems (i.e.  whether such a value would be fundamental  structurally  -- temporally or spatially).  Jim Piat- Original Message -From: P!^VP 0!Z!^VPTo: WRYTING-L@LISTSERV.WVU.EDUSent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:07 PMSubject: Re: ExistentialI wonder about this, Alan The golden mean evidences itself so nicely, naturally (of course) in so many ways, I often wonder if it doesn't also exist on the temporal stage re:cycles... as an example... which COULD put it in a Mandelbrot or some other such fractal relationship re chaos.?D^On 5-Oct-06, at 10:54 PM, Alan Sondheim wrote:I don't think chaos or fractals relate to the gold mean - you can make any kind of display you want of course, including some that would relate - but that would be in terms of one's graphics choice.- Alanblog at http://nikuko.blogspot.com - for URLs, DVDs, CDs, books/etc. seehttp://www.asondheim.org/advert.txt - contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], -general directory of work: http://www.asondheim.orgTrace at: http://tracearchive.ntu.ac.uk - search "Alan Sondheim"http://clc.as.wvu.edu:8080/clc/Members/sondheimP!^VP

Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread Jim Piat

Not sure what ratio you're referencing. Chaotic systems aren't random -
they just appear that way; the slightest change in one of the equation 
variables results in a wildly different curve.


- Alan


Hi, thanks  -- I'm talking about Figenbaum's ratio -- but as I said mine is 
a layman's superficial understanding and I don't mean to drag you into  some 
non productive sorting through of my probably misuderstandings.  So don't 
feel obliged.  I'm content to sit and watch in any case.  I'm happy in my 
igorance!


Back to what you were doing and thanks for clarification.  It's all poetry 
to me.  And I enjoy this list. I feel as though my appreciation for poetry 
and its joys is being expanded by this list. As poetry goes so goes life.


Jim Piat 


Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread Jim Piat



Ah yes, thanks-- that was my dim and 
uncertain memory. 

I just checked Fiegenbaum on the internet. I think 
I read it lst in Gleick. But as I say I only follow it on a popular level 
and think that's probably close to my limit. 

So that's good enough for me -- some 
association, the nature of which I leave for you and Alan to weigh. 


Thank!

Jim Piat

  Check out Feigenbaum constants. 
  You have to trudge through some heavy mathematics, but the connection is there 
  between chaos and the golden mean.
  
  m
  


Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread D^Vid D^Vizio
HEY!  Let's be perfectly diminuitive here.. I follow it only on a poetic level. 
 So... I suppose
your motivational limit is perfectly appropriate, here, Jim.

D^

--- Jim Piat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah yes, thanks--  that was my dim and uncertain memory.  
 
 I just checked Fiegenbaum on the internet. I think I read it lst in Gleick.  
 But as I say I only
 follow it on a popular level and think that's probably close to my limit.  
 
 So that's good enough for me  -- some association, the nature of which I 
 leave for you and Alan
 to weigh. 
 
 Thank!
 
 Jim Piat
 
 
   Check out Feigenbaum constants. You have to trudge through some heavy 
 mathematics, but the
 connection is there between chaos and the golden mean.
 
 
   m
 


d^Vizio

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Wu. Grass now grows (say yes to the Virgin Credit Card)

2006-10-06 Thread Dirk Vekemans
In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni
(Debord film featuring a eulogy to Chtcheglov)
http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/debord.films/ingirum.htm


1.

dramatized anecdotes have been the building blocks the rapid deterioration
not only of their continually increasing rationality our continually
increasing happiness and the ever more diverse pleasures of our purchasing
power

to presume the innocence of this public that are all trivial or false
inherited from the theater and the novel, society, not a particular
technology my example alone will suffice to demolish it from those who
receive 

government funding whatever their merits or insufficiencies,of war can also
be said of revolution: ladies, the arms and loves, the 
Gallant that I began to lead a fully independent Life than rich 
anywhere else

Wu. Grass now grows peacefully on actual content of all production
destruction of Paris is only one striking example enter the same river
twice, nor twice touch the moment a group of people begins
govern.



2.

Gun Crazy. You remember. That's how it was despised all ideological
illusions and were quite indifferent to what might later prove them right s
a song says some already-initiated Obedience is dead. It is wonderful could
have done

more honorable than any the present system of floodlit enlightenment is
capable of bestowing O wretchedness! O grief! Paris is trembling.
those who will decide to from the vantage point of Sirius, the most sublime 
reject it forced 

possible for someone to achieve some historical successes and yet I know
why. The only thing of importance us is a citizen of the one true city; but
in your We came forth like water and are gone like the wind
 well situated.




3.

No wising up and no settling down.

 



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Re: Existential

2006-10-06 Thread skyplums
sexist  (in) tensionalism


Please Help Protect our Lakes, Rivers Wetlands (fwd)

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim

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Amazon News - October, 6th 2006 (fwd)

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim




-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:31:00 -0300 (BRT)
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Subject: Amazon News - October, 6th 2006

Amazon News
Friends of the Earth - Brazilian Amazon

Amazon News is a weekly information service provided by
www.amazonia.org.br , the largest bilingual site on the Brazilian Amazon
region, in partnership with several Brazilian media.
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The news this week:

Federal Police will take over air crash investigation
Radiobrás - 10/04/2006

Only four of the 23 assemblymen accused of corruption were reelected to
the State Legislature of Rondônia
Radiobrás - 10/04/2006

So far, expenditures forecast for IIRSA in 2006 in the Federal Budget are
only on paper
Amazonia.org.br - 10/03/2006

Ibama will consider studies on impacts of the Madeira project on Bolivia
Amazonia.org.br - 10/03/2006

Rescue teams locate 100 bodies, flight recorders have been recovered
O Estado de S.Paulo - 10/03/2006

Bolivian environmentalists criticize the EIA and state that impacts of
the Madeira River hydro power plants will affect Bolivia
Amazonia.org.br - 10/02/2006

Incumbent governors are reelected in six states of Amazonia
Amazonia.org.br - 10/02/2006

Journalist sends dossier to the Superior Electoral Court accusing the
Regional Electoral Court of Amapá of acting in favor of José Sarney
Folha do Amapá - 09/29/2006

Analysis shows budget cuts in the Ministry of the Environment
Conservação Internacional (CI-Brasil) - 09/29/2006

Researcher from Amazonia is worldwide reference on global warming
Agência Estado - 09/29/2006

An interview with Dr. Philip Fearnside
Essential Science Indicators - 09/29/2006



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Concerto for Harmonica and Access Grid

2006-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim

Concerto for Harmonica and Access Grid

a is filtered from b; they should be played in the order a-b
The path was Brooklyn -- Argonne -- West Virginia -- Argonne - West
   Virginia
The programmatic subject is the calling and mourning of the dead,
   for the dying

http://www.asondheim.org/concertoa.mp3
http://www.asondheim.org/concertob.mp3