[WSG] Mozilla 1.6 is out!

2004-01-16 Thread Mark Stanton

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/#1.6

Looks like most of the enhancements have been in the mail client, but that
url hack that affected both IE  Moz has also been fixed.


Cheers

Mark


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[WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting

2004-01-16 Thread James Ellis
Hi all

For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really 
good point about cross browser implementation

Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who 
view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured 
to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there, 
they might just say hey that looks all right They may even label 
something normal that we call broken.

It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS 
tweak-to-death mindset.

Cheers
James




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Re: [WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting

2004-01-16 Thread Vaska . WSG
Do people really code/tweak for NS4?  My netscape traffic generally 
ranges less than 3% and I can only imagine that a very small chunk of 
that is actually NS4.  Am I missing something?

v

On 16 Jan 2004, at 11:10, James Ellis wrote:

Hi all

For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really 
good point about cross browser implementation

Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who 
view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured 
to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there, 
they might just say hey that looks all right They may even label 
something normal that we call broken.

It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS 
tweak-to-death mindset.

Cheers
James
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RE: [WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting

2004-01-16 Thread Peter Firminger
In some Government organisations, Netscape 4 is still used as the default
browser generally to the use of the Netscape email client and because they
paid a site licence for corporate use (which is why Netscape had to bring
out an update to 4.7? last year). If one of these organisations is your
client, then there is a very good reason to tweak for it.

Of course you urge them to change the policy, but sysadmins (especially
government ones) are not always fast on technology change.

P

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 Do people really code/tweak for NS4?  My netscape traffic generally
 ranges less than 3% and I can only imagine that a very small chunk of
 that is actually NS4.  Am I missing something?

 v


 On 16 Jan 2004, at 11:10, James Ellis wrote:


 Hi all

 For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really
 good point about cross browser implementation

 Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the
 people who
 view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is
 structured
 to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there,
 they might just say hey that looks all right They may
 even label
 something normal that we call broken.

 It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS
 tweak-to-death mindset.

 Cheers
 James

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Re: [WSG] Maestro site : nearly xhtml

2004-01-16 Thread Michael Zeltner
hey james

i was/am involved in the development of that site and thanks for telling 
me/us that the content wasn't valid ;)

the important pages are repaired now. to clean up the forum markup is 
almost impossible (it's not a good piece of software imo), we just used 
it as it was. and the wiki is just a mess ;) i hope i can clean up the 
table stuff too - maybe next week or sunday.

so this is my first post (just heard about this mailinglist), maybe i 
should introduce myself:

i'm Michael Zeltner, 17 years old, from austria/vienna, part of the 
Plone (http://plone.org/) ui team. we focus on webstandards, semantic 
xhtml coding, accessibility, and heavy nonhackish css ;)

plone has still a long way to go, but it's quite okay what we did 
until now, i think.

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