[WSG] Mozilla 1.6 is out!
http://www.mozilla.org/releases/#1.6 Looks like most of the enhancements have been in the mail client, but that url hack that affected both IE Moz has also been fixed. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting
Hi all For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really good point about cross browser implementation Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there, they might just say hey that looks all right They may even label something normal that we call broken. It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS tweak-to-death mindset. Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting
Do people really code/tweak for NS4? My netscape traffic generally ranges less than 3% and I can only imagine that a very small chunk of that is actually NS4. Am I missing something? v On 16 Jan 2004, at 11:10, James Ellis wrote: Hi all For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really good point about cross browser implementation Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there, they might just say hey that looks all right They may even label something normal that we call broken. It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS tweak-to-death mindset. Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting
In some Government organisations, Netscape 4 is still used as the default browser generally to the use of the Netscape email client and because they paid a site licence for corporate use (which is why Netscape had to bring out an update to 4.7? last year). If one of these organisations is your client, then there is a very good reason to tweak for it. Of course you urge them to change the policy, but sysadmins (especially government ones) are not always fast on technology change. P -Original Message- From: Vaska.WSG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Russ' point from last night's meeting Do people really code/tweak for NS4? My netscape traffic generally ranges less than 3% and I can only imagine that a very small chunk of that is actually NS4. Am I missing something? v On 16 Jan 2004, at 11:10, James Ellis wrote: Hi all For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really good point about cross browser implementation Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured to be readable for our IE5 and NS4 viewers (for instance) out there, they might just say hey that looks all right They may even label something normal that we call broken. It certainly is a good point to remember when we get stuck in the CSS tweak-to-death mindset. Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Maestro site : nearly xhtml
hey james i was/am involved in the development of that site and thanks for telling me/us that the content wasn't valid ;) the important pages are repaired now. to clean up the forum markup is almost impossible (it's not a good piece of software imo), we just used it as it was. and the wiki is just a mess ;) i hope i can clean up the table stuff too - maybe next week or sunday. so this is my first post (just heard about this mailinglist), maybe i should introduce myself: i'm Michael Zeltner, 17 years old, from austria/vienna, part of the Plone (http://plone.org/) ui team. we focus on webstandards, semantic xhtml coding, accessibility, and heavy nonhackish css ;) plone has still a long way to go, but it's quite okay what we did until now, i think. best regards -- niij http://niij.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *