[WSG] Guidelines reminder - attachments/caps
Hi all Just a quick reminder that the guidelines for the list are at http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm - one of these includes a no attachments policy. If you want to send a screenshot to someone please do it off list - I'm pretty sure Peter doesn't want to send out a 345 kb email to 500 people. It's also a kludge to download for those on dial-up. Also, using all CAPS to write a subject line can lead to readability problems for some - try writing the subject as a normal descriptive sentence. You may also end up getting weighted towards Nigerian bank spam by some types of filtering packages :D Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] CSS problem
Veine Your left col div is containing your center div you should close the the left div before you open the center div ... e.g leftcol-content center-content and not leftcol-content center-content as you have it now Leo On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 06:26 AM, Veine K Vikberg wrote: Will; Thanks for the suggestion, I did it and it seems to add a little to separate in IE6 WinXP Home at least, however, in NS (Moz RC1) it does not,... I am running out of ideas here. As for the suggestion, note taken and should probably not be h4's but I was thinking search engine work ahead of time so to speak, as it seems to be indexing way more h4's then lists, I will probably change this. Any other suggestion to see if I can get it to separate? At 01:23 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: To answer your question directly, add a right margin to your h4 tags in your style sheet: H4 {margin-right: 10px;} To answer your question with a suggestion, don't use h4's for your nav links. Rather, use an unordered list to gain better control over their display and establish better semantics in your markup: link 1 link2 For a great example, read A List Apart's "Taming Lists" at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ Will Chatham oOo www.willchatham.com --- > Can someone take a look at this page: > http://vikberg.net/IAMU Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] CSS problem
Thank you, appreciated :o) However, no solution to my original problem, I think the box not expanding is just an oversight on my part not to use clearing div's :o) *Note to self, check out Mac platform too! :o) ~Veine At 02:01 PM 4/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: Veine, Just wanted to let u know that in Mac OSX/IE 5.2 the body copy overflows the bottom blue footer bar... screenshot attached (I know it's small but I didn't want to hog everyone's email). later, Z Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru
Re: [WSG] CSS problem
Veine, Just wanted to let u know that in Mac OSX/IE 5.2 the body copy overflows the bottom blue footer bar... screenshot attached (I know it's small but I didn't want to hog everyone's email). later, Z · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Z u l e m a O r t i z W e b D e s i g n e r email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : http://zoblue.com/ weblog : http://zoblue.com/mt/ · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · On Thursday, April 8, 2004 4:25 AM, Veine K Vikberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello; Can someone take a look at this page: http://vikberg.net/IAMU and suggest how I best separate the blue links from the white content area so it doesn't 'hog' the line? TIA ~Veine Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru screenshot.gif Description: Binary data
RE: [WSG] CSS problem
Will; Thanks for the suggestion, I did it and it seems to add a little to separate in IE6 WinXP Home at least, however, in NS (Moz RC1) it does not,... I am running out of ideas here. As for the suggestion, note taken and should probably not be h4's but I was thinking search engine work ahead of time so to speak, as it seems to be indexing way more h4's then lists, I will probably change this. Any other suggestion to see if I can get it to separate? At 01:23 PM 4/8/2004 -0400, you wrote: To answer your question directly, add a right margin to your h4 tags in your style sheet: H4 {margin-right: 10px;} To answer your question with a suggestion, don't use h4's for your nav links. Rather, use an unordered list to gain better control over their display and establish better semantics in your markup: link 1 link2 For a great example, read A List Apart's "Taming Lists" at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ Will Chatham oOo www.willchatham.com --- > Can someone take a look at this page: > http://vikberg.net/IAMU Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru
RE: [WSG] CSS problem
To answer your question directly, add a right margin to your h4 tags in your style sheet: H4 {margin-right: 10px;} To answer your question with a suggestion, don't use h4's for your nav links. Rather, use an unordered list to gain better control over their display and establish better semantics in your markup: link 1 link2 For a great example, read A List Apart's "Taming Lists" at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/ Will Chatham oOo www.willchatham.com --- > Can someone take a look at this page: > http://vikberg.net/IAMU > > and suggest how I best separate the blue links from the > white content > area so it doesn't 'hog' the line? > >TIA > ~Veine * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] CSS problem
Hello; Can someone take a look at this page: http://vikberg.net/IAMU and suggest how I best separate the blue links from the white content area so it doesn't 'hog' the line? TIA ~Veine Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru
Re: [WSG] in Win IE6?
Hi Christopher, No. But you should probably serve up XHTML 1.0 Strict to IE and 1.1 to Mozilla/FireFox/Opera. Here is the link on how to do this: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=16A6EBD1-9EEC-4611-98C8-C0F6234B9737 Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: "Christopher M Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:34 AM Subject: [WSG] in Win IE6? > Hello! I was just beginning to read through the W3C's docs on XHTML 1.1 and > noticed the following example they provide of an XHTML 1.1 strict document: > > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd";> > http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" > > > Virtual Library > > > Moved to http://vlib.org/";>vlib.org. > > > > While they do state the XML declaration is not required, they urge its use. > > My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into "quirks > mode" if it's present? It seems like I read that recently. Can anyone > verify? > > Thanks! Great list! Very informative! > > Christopher Kelly (GM22) > phone: 309-763-7069 > State Farm Insurance Companies - disAbility Support > > > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] in Win IE6?
Chris On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 10:34 AM, Christopher M Kelly wrote: My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into "quirks mode" if it's present? It seems like I read that recently. Can anyone verify? I'll verify that... Yes it will send IE6 into quirks mode and yes it is no need for validation. Leo * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS
Jackie Don't you just love IE... I'd guess your answer is at the link below. http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html Leo On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 04:12 AM, Jackie Reid wrote: Something strange is happening to my margins when i attribute a 10px left hand margin to the div id left i seem to get a 15px margin in IE which then throws the right hand column down and under. This doesn't happen with top, right or bottom margins - they all display correctly. What's going on here... site: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html css: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.css any help would be appreciated hugely... Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] in Win IE6?
Christopher M Kelly wrote: Hello! I was just beginning to read through the W3C's docs on XHTML 1.1 and noticed the following example they provide of an XHTML 1.1 strict document: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" > Virtual Library Moved to http://vlib.org/";>vlib.org. While they do state the XML declaration is not required, they urge its use. My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into "quirks mode" if it's present? It seems like I read that recently. Can anyone verify? Yes it does, create a testcase to see it yourself. Example: #testdiv { width: 100px; padding: 10px; background-color: green; } The green rectangle should be 120px in standards mode. Tonico -- Tonico Strasser ?:-) http://Tonico.FreeZope.org Contact_Tonico at Yahoo dot de Check out http://www.WebProducer.at * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] in Win IE6?
Hello! I was just beginning to read through the W3C's docs on XHTML 1.1 and noticed the following example they provide of an XHTML 1.1 strict document: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd";> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" > Virtual Library Moved to http://vlib.org/";>vlib.org. While they do state the XML declaration is not required, they urge its use. My questions is: doesn't the XML declaration send IE6 (Windows) into "quirks mode" if it's present? It seems like I read that recently. Can anyone verify? Thanks! Great list! Very informative! Christopher Kelly (GM22) phone: 309-763-7069 State Farm Insurance Companies - disAbility Support * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS
Total up all of your widths and margins of you left and right columns, and you will see that they equal more than the width of your wrapper id. The right columns falls below the left if you narrow the browser window as it is. Once you add more margin space, it's probably lowering the threshold at which point it wraps, which led you to notice it. Hope that helps Will Chatham oOo www.willchatham.com --- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] GLITCH WITH MARGINS
Something strange is happening to my margins when i attribute a 10px left hand margin to the div id left i seem to get a 15px margin in IE which then throws the right hand column down and under. This doesn't happen with top, right or bottom margins - they all display correctly. What's going on here... site: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html css: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.css any help would be appreciated hugely... Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS.
Thanks all... I have fixed the problem with your help, Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Leo J. O'Campo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS. Jackie the info in this pdf file is just what you need. LeoOn Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 12:59 AM, Jackie Reid wrote: Hi all...I have a couple of problems here that i dont seem to be able to nut out, any help would be greatly appreciated if there is anyone around on the day before the easter break. Firstly the site centers just fine in ie but is aligned left in firefox...why is this so? Secondly and more confusing, I have the site contained in a wrapper but in firefox the wrapper doesnt wrap, it doesnt seem to contain any of the elements that I have put in there. (if you look in firefox the wrapper is the little white bit at the top that is supposed to fill the whole site) Looks fine in ie again. If i display it as table-cell; it seems to work but thats not widely supported is it? site: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.htmlcss: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.css Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port
Hey Mike, Check here http://scott.sauyet.name/CSS/Demo/FooterDemo2.html Regards Chris Blown http://hinterlands.com.au On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 17:01, Mike Kear wrote: > I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but > if the window reduces in size, the footer goes over the top of other > page content. > > What I'd like to do is have the footer stick to the bottom of the > browser, except if it collides with other page content, which will > push it down below the bottom of the viewing port and have a vertical > scroll bar appear. > > Is this possible with CSS? I know it's done with tables, because > that's how this site is now, but I want to get rid of these tables. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > AFP Webworks, > Windsor, NSW, Australia. > * The discussion > list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on > posting to the list & getting help > * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] Thursday drinks in Sydney
Hi everyone, Due to the lack of a Sydney meeting this evening, a few of us regulars are planning to hold our own little get-together, discussion will include (among other things): - Just what constitutes a 'standard' drink - The accessibility of the bar area - Usability of the bathroom facilities Where: Ship Inn, Circular Quay (http://www.whereisthepub.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=77) When: 6:30pm, AEDST If you haven't had the (mis)fortune of meeting anyone from the list before, then I'll be the one wearing the MXDU 2003 t-shirt & jeans, and most likely have a pint of Guinness in my hand :) So if you happen to be in the Sydney CBD this evening, then come and join us! -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *