Re: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT
Hi Gary, I am inserting what I think is a plane old link like this a href=#1Item 1/a a name=1Some Text/a I am doing this with Coldfusion on the server but that would be irrelative I would have thought? when you click the link it moves the page to the root of the folder rather than the URL I am currently on? Its driving me mad! to seems so small and silly, i've done these thousands of times before but this time its not having it! Any one care to speculate why? It reminds me of an old CF bug that used to make it throw a wobbly on named links like that. Even tho' you were not in a cfoutput statement the hash threw it. I am wracking my brains to remember the fix and failing I'm afraid but it is probably a CF problem, therefore completely off-topic for this List :-) -- Yours, Kym * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] IE 5.5 CSS problem- to do with media=print?
Hi all,
Is there a problem with IE 5.5 and printable style
sheets?
I have a page (on a CD, so i can't send teh url)
with the following styles
style type="text/css"
media="all"@import
url("../mcq_images/mcq_css.css");/style
style type="text/css"
media="print"@import
url("../mcq_images/mcq_print_css.css");/style
This works fine on most browsers, but on IE 5.5
there seems to be some stuff missing from the HTML. This is the same stuff that
is excluded in the printable stylesheet.
!--#printtipcontainer
{display:none;}#mcqnav {display:none;}.stats_table
{page-break-inside:avoid;}#page_container
{page-break-after:always;}--
Could IE 5.5 be displaying the print style sheet
along with the normal stylesheet? Is this a known problem, or have i done
something stupid!?
Thanks,
Gavin
RE: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT
If you are working on a CF server, you probably have to escape the # since this is something used by CF in a different context (i.e., for designating that you want to work with the value of a variable). I think you do it by doubling up the hashes: ## See if that works. Cheers, Seona. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of G A R Y C R O U C H [ A I T ] Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2004 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT I am inserting what I think is a plane old link like this a href=#1Item 1/a a name=1Some Text/a I am doing this with Coldfusion on the server but that would be irrelative I would have thought? when you click the link it moves the page to the root of the folder rather than the URL I am currently on? Its driving me mad! to seems so small and silly, i've done these thousands of times before but this time its not having it! Any one care to speculate why? GC * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 9/04/2004 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT
Simple things have simple answers, Fusebox, which is used in this CF app, puts a base tag in the top of the page. Bless it! Remove the base tag, NO PROBLEM! GC - Original Message - From: G A R Y C R O U C H [ A I T ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT I am inserting what I think is a plane old link like this a href=#1Item 1/a a name=1Some Text/a I am doing this with Coldfusion on the server but that would be irrelative I would have thought? when you click the link it moves the page to the root of the folder rather than the URL I am currently on? Its driving me mad! to seems so small and silly, i've done these thousands of times before but this time its not having it! Any one care to speculate why? GC * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Introductory Usability Evaluation workshop
Forgot to mention, 10% discount for WSG members! James Robertson from StepTwo writes: We would be happy to offer a 10% discount to WSG members (please handwrite WSG member onto the bottom of the registration form). Russ There has been a lot of talk recently about how web standards are concentrating on tools and are missing the real focus - the actual users. While the two are not mutually exclusive, there is definitely a need to focus on users. For those who may be interested... Introductory Usability Evaluation - Tuesday, 4 May 2004 Mercure Hotel, Sydney Full event details: http://www.steptwo.com.au/seminars/040504/index.html * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Introductory Usability Evaluation workshop
russ weakley spoke the following wise words on 13/04/2004 6:14 PM EST: Forgot to mention, 10% discount for WSG members! Is that on top of the student discount? (not that I have the money anyway... lol) -- tim www.toolmantim.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Valid Flash...
The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Valid Flash...
Could anybody confirm if this new method solves the non-streaming problem of the Flash Satay method ? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay Cheers, P Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk -Original Message- From: Chris Bentley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 April 2004 10:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Valid Flash... The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Two reminders
Hi all, 1. the WSG design competition is still open, and all WSG members can take part - there still time to enter. More info here: http://discuss.webstandardsgroup.org/archives/12.htm 2. Final reminder for the Sydney WSG meeting 15th April with special guest David Woodbridge. RSVP's essential. Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
Hi Looking at the code (from source URL below) object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 codebase=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0; width=300 height=120 param name=movie value=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/triggerpages_mmcom/flash.swf; param name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF !--[if !IE] -- object data=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/triggerpages_mmcom/flash.swf; width=300 height=120 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF param name=pluginurl value=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; FAIL (the browser should render some flash content, not this). /object !-- [endif]-- /object It's evident there are two tags running - one for ActiveX browsers (i.e IE on Win32) devices and the other for every other browser. The idea behind removing the embed tag (a proprietary Netscape tag for NS4 and under) was to have only 1 tag set for every user agent. Drew Mclellan's Flash Satay on A List Apart does this to good effect.. In the code above we have the ActiveX clsid for IE, the other version has the W3C recommended way to do it - this seems to be the sticking point for certain versions of IE5.x that will display a textarea instead of your object. I did some work on this when I was looking at really pushing Flash for some work I was doing and wanted to adhere to the standards. I couldn't actually reproduce this bug - Russ told me once that he and Rose didn't reproduce it either in their testing (my testing was on IE5.5 on Win ME (the platform from hell). This implementation doesn't really solve the tag soup problem - it uses propietrary IE conditionals instead of proprietary Netscape tags does IE for other versions of Windows (devices for instance) ignore the conditionals and attempt to display two objects? Something that IE handles really well ;D As for the streaming of Flash, modularising the movie is the solution to this and probably should be implemented on every Flash app, instead of having one movie do everything. It seems to be a layover from the bad old days of loading 600kbthats a topic for another list , tho', but it's really easy to do and helps out with app updates, scalability no end. HTH James Chris Bentley wrote: The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] This sounds really silly BUT
Hi Gary, I am doing this with Coldfusion on the server but that would be irrelative I would have thought? when you click the link it moves the page to the root of the folder rather than the URL I am currently on? You don't have a base href=http://blahblah/; / somewhere in your head, do you? If not, sorry, no idea :). Cheers, -- Andrew Taumoefolau * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
For some things the lack of streaming can be very restrictive as there are several things you cannot do with a loaded movie. Sure modularising the movie is a good plan, but there are times that you need access to that root level of the movie. What I don't understand is why someone would bother... to me flash is not a W3C standard, thus it will not validate... but maybe that is just me. If you read hixie's page you will see that he is pretty anti flash anyways so I doubt he has thoroughly tested this, so it could through up unforseen problems (or maybe not, but we don't know, see unforseen above) As for the streaming of Flash, modularising the movie is the solution to this and probably should be implemented on every Flash app, instead of having one movie do everything. It seems to be a layover from the bad old days of loading 600kbthats a topic for another list , tho', but it's really easy to do and helps out with app updates, scalability no end. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
I am not a big fan of Macromedia Flash. To me, it will always be a proprietary format with an accessibility problem, despite Macromedia's efforts to promote otherwise; however, it cannot be discounted as a web medium. Until SVG becomes more widely accepted, Flash is King. I chose not to use it for personal work, but I will happily use it if a client requests it. Thus far, I have been forced to use the Satay method to include it in my work. Ian Hickson's solution appears to be sound. Anne van Kesteren rightly points out that it creates more markup, and has to resort to conditional comments, but it does represent a simpler solution to that proposed by A List Apart's twice-cooked method. I will probably use this method, until a better one presents itself. Simon Jessey -- mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://jessey.net/blog/ work: http://keystonewebsites.com/ - Original Message - From: scott parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Valid Flash... What I don't understand is why someone would bother... to me flash is not a W3C standard, thus it will not validate... but maybe that is just me. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
James Following this tread, reading the satay article, and looking up the XHTML 1.0 spec for the object tag, it seems to me, that I could put all this code inside an external CSS. My questions are [1] am I right? [2] would keeping the flash code out of the HTML using id's on the object element allow strict validation, since all major browsers do somewhat support object? [3] or just use Drew Mclellan's solution? Also I ask the same confirmation question as P. Leo On Tuesday, April 13, 2004, at 07:43 AM, James Ellis wrote: Hi Looking at the code (from source URL below) object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 codebase=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/ swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0 width=300 height=120 param name=movie value=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/ triggerpages_mmcom/flash.swfparam name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF !--[if !IE] -- object data=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/triggerpages_mmcom/ flash.swf width=300 height=120 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF param name=pluginurl value=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; FAIL (the browser should render some flash content, not this). /object !-- [endif]-- /object It's evident there are two tags running - one for ActiveX browsers (i.e IE on Win32) devices and the other for every other browser. The idea behind removing the embed tag (a proprietary Netscape tag for NS4 and under) was to have only 1 tag set for every user agent. Drew Mclellan's Flash Satay on A List Apart does this to good effect.. In the code above we have the ActiveX clsid for IE, the other version has the W3C recommended way to do it - this seems to be the sticking point for certain versions of IE5.x that will display a textarea instead of your object. I did some work on this when I was looking at really pushing Flash for some work I was doing and wanted to adhere to the standards. I couldn't actually reproduce this bug - Russ told me once that he and Rose didn't reproduce it either in their testing (my testing was on IE5.5 on Win ME (the platform from hell). This implementation doesn't really solve the tag soup problem - it uses propietrary IE conditionals instead of proprietary Netscape tags does IE for other versions of Windows (devices for instance) ignore the conditionals and attempt to display two objects? Something that IE handles really well ;D As for the streaming of Flash, modularising the movie is the solution to this and probably should be implemented on every Flash app, instead of having one movie do everything. It seems to be a layover from the bad old days of loading 600kbthats a topic for another list , tho', but it's really easy to do and helps out with app updates, scalability no end. HTH James Chris Bentley wrote: The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
scott parsons wrote: For some things the lack of streaming can be very restrictive as there are several things you cannot do with a loaded movie. Sure modularising the movie is a good plan, but there are times that you need access to that root level of the movie. Not that this is a Flash list but you can access the _root of the movie from anywhere in the movie, including loaded movies. What I don't understand is why someone would bother... to me flash is not a W3C standard, thus it will not validate... but maybe that is just me. This is separate to the markup used to load a Flash movie... sure Flash is propietary, so is the embed tag, Quicktime, Real, and lots of other media that use the object tag (Gif is proprietary as well and it can be rendered by an object tag) Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Valid Flash...
Leo There are a few things happening here: * The object tag is HTML so you'd need to leave quite a few attributes in the tag structure. A few of the presentational elements could go in a stylesheet (like bgcolor, width and height), I believe. * IE for Win completely barfs when multiple object tags are presented. The ideas behind nesting object tags is to present a cascading media.. those who can't render application/x-shockwave-flash could render an object containing a PNG. If they don't do either then plain text can be nested in the object tag holding the PNG. This is apparently the XHTML2.0 way of rendering media, as IMG will be deprecated - but not for a long while yet :D - so we may see a change in IE to compensate for this in the far future. The reason the standard object/embed tag structure doesn't validate is that embed is a Netscape tag. Using one object tag for all browsers allows validation and the run offs from that. Just like the object/embed method, this one is a hack to get validation across multiple browsers -- much better to work on the single tag method. Leo J. O'Campo wrote: James Following this tread, reading the satay article, and looking up the XHTML 1.0 spec for the object tag, it seems to me, that I could put all this code inside an external CSS. My questions are [1] am I right? [2] would keeping the flash code out of the HTML using id's on the object element allow strict validation, since all major browsers do somewhat support object? [3] or just use Drew Mclellan's solution? Also I ask the same confirmation question as P. Leo On Tuesday, April 13, 2004, at 07:43 AM, James Ellis wrote: Hi Looking at the code (from source URL below) object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 codebase=http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/ swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0 width=300 height=120 param name=movie value=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/ triggerpages_mmcom/flash.swfparam name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF !--[if !IE] -- object data=http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/triggerpages_mmcom/ flash.swf width=300 height=120 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=quality value=high param name=bgcolor value=#FF param name=pluginurl value=http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer; FAIL (the browser should render some flash content, not this). /object !-- [endif]-- /object It's evident there are two tags running - one for ActiveX browsers (i.e IE on Win32) devices and the other for every other browser. The idea behind removing the embed tag (a proprietary Netscape tag for NS4 and under) was to have only 1 tag set for every user agent. Drew Mclellan's Flash Satay on A List Apart does this to good effect.. In the code above we have the ActiveX clsid for IE, the other version has the W3C recommended way to do it - this seems to be the sticking point for certain versions of IE5.x that will display a textarea instead of your object. I did some work on this when I was looking at really pushing Flash for some work I was doing and wanted to adhere to the standards. I couldn't actually reproduce this bug - Russ told me once that he and Rose didn't reproduce it either in their testing (my testing was on IE5.5 on Win ME (the platform from hell). This implementation doesn't really solve the tag soup problem - it uses propietrary IE conditionals instead of proprietary Netscape tags does IE for other versions of Windows (devices for instance) ignore the conditionals and attempt to display two objects? Something that IE handles really well ;D As for the streaming of Flash, modularising the movie is the solution to this and probably should be implemented on every Flash app, instead of having one movie do everything. It seems to be a layover from the bad old days of loading 600kbthats a topic for another list , tho', but it's really easy to do and helps out with app updates, scalability no end. HTH James Chris Bentley wrote: The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
[WSG] RSS or Atom for an events calendar?
Hi all, Hopefully this is an applicable place to discuss this. I've just started looking into RSS/Atom/etc (news feeds in XML), and everything is going pretty well, but I'm working on a website for a band, and the news feeds seem easy enough, but I'm interested in the possibility of using RSS or Atom for calendar events (shows and tours). But I'm not sure RSS/Atom can be used in this way. The theory behind shows for a band is that they need to be advertised/shown UPTO the date of the event, then they're irrelevant. The theory behind news readers is that once you've read something, it no longer exists, which is not what I'm aiming for of course. RSS2.0 only seems to have a published date, not an expiry date, so that doesn't seem to help. Atom seems to have issued and modified, but again no expiry. So, how can I take advantage of RSS/Atom/etc to keep fans up-to-date with shows/tours? Some ideas I have: a) when a show is added/edited/deleted from the show database, a news item is created advising of the new/revised/deleted show, which would of course appear in the news feed. The advantage here is that there's multiple news items which can be tracked. The disadvantage is that shows won't appear in date order (or reverse date order) -- they'll simply be added to the feed as things change. b) a news feed of *just one item* containing a summary of all upcoming gigs is offered over RSS/Atom... as the gig database changes, this news item is either *modified*, or *over-written* with a new summary... the advantage here is that the summary will be ordered correctly, and the latest (and only) news post will contain all the information in one hit. Any other ideas? --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] RSS or Atom for an events calendar?
The only thing that will be useful for the general public is a basic RSS/ATOM feed that just announces dates when you know about them. You cannot build something that is going to somehow be useful in terms of edits or deletes. This sort of syndication is typically aggregated and kept at the discretion of the user -- sending additional info like the event is no more will only confuse folks. There is plenty of value in announcing new upcoming events though. You might also consider generating an iCal feed which is simple enough -- although Outlook has no idea (as per usual) the rest of the calendaring world regards iCal as a common protocol. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Justin French wrote: Hi all, Hopefully this is an applicable place to discuss this. I've just started looking into RSS/Atom/etc (news feeds in XML), and everything is going pretty well, but I'm working on a website for a band, and the news feeds seem easy enough, but I'm interested in the possibility of using RSS or Atom for calendar events (shows and tours). But I'm not sure RSS/Atom can be used in this way. The theory behind shows for a band is that they need to be advertised/shown UPTO the date of the event, then they're irrelevant. The theory behind news readers is that once you've read something, it no longer exists, which is not what I'm aiming for of course. RSS2.0 only seems to have a published date, not an expiry date, so that doesn't seem to help. Atom seems to have issued and modified, but again no expiry. .snip.8. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Yarr, I think IE hates me :(
I am having major issues with this layout. I've been working on it for a long time and it's just not cooperating in IE. The basic layout was lifted from MaxDesign's 2-column liquid layout (http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/). http://readordie.org/test/ It works like a dream in Firebird, but in IE, the menu on the left is causing a big gap in the content area. The more you add to the menu, the bigger the gap. I don't know what's causing it. In addition, in IE there is some kind of error on line 18, character 9, which is div class=upgrade. Also, for pages where the content is short, such as http://readordie.org/test/index.php?page=updates , how do I fix it so that the content's background color and left pink border extends down to the footer (where the copyright is)? I used to use min-height and set a really large number, such as 1200px, but I'm writing articles for my fansite that might be exceeding 1200px. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it! :D - Sarah -- Read or Die http://www.readordie.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design
Following Jason Turnbull's advice on another
problem (that fixed the problem, thanks Jason) I have included an hr class=clear
to the bottom of my wrapper to make the white background appear. I tried
div's br's and they didnt work. hr did.
now...
in firefox the spacing is fine but i can see the hr
at the very bottom of the wrapper
in ie i cant see the hr but i have too much space
at the bottom of the page...it should only show 5px margin...
how do i make them go away...?
the css goes something like this
hr {height: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0; color: #fff;
background-color: #fff;}
and
.clear { clear:both; font-size:0;
line-height:0;}
any light shed on the subject would be appreciated.
That fact that i dont even know what makes up an hr could be a problem, but i
can't find a definition of an hr anywhere.
site: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/index.html
css: http://www.mockorange.com.au/mocksites/test/jugernaut/css/juganaut.css
Jackie Reid
RE: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design
Jackie Reid wrote: I have included an hr class=clear to the bottom of my wrapper to make the white background appear. I tried div's br's and they didnt work. hr did. Thats a bit strange I've never had a br class=clear / not work in firefox the spacing is fine but i can see the hr at the very bottom of the wrapper in ie i cant see the hr but i have too much space at the bottom of the page ...it should only show 5px margin... how do i make them go away...? I was trying to do this yesterday and eventually went back to using a br. IE was the only browser causing trouble, and I tried many different suggestions I found on the net I found a post by Eric Meyer to add visibility:hidden, but that still takes up space. So I would also like to hear if anyone has a solution Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] RSS or Atom for an events calendar?
On 14/04/2004, at 12:38 PM, Geoff Bowers wrote: You might also consider generating an iCal feed which is simple enough -- although Outlook has no idea (as per usual) the rest of the calendaring world regards iCal as a common protocol. That's a great idea, and it looks like there's some PHP classes to do it all too! Is there a similar method of calendar publishing with Outlook at all? Justin --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design
Jason...I decided to try the br class=clear / thing again cos you said it should work and now it does(h!)... maybe it was conflicting with some css that I have now changed or removed. Possible. I would also be interested in getting the hr thing working for future use if poss so would be interested in the solution to that too if any one has it nutted out already. Jackie Reid Mock Orange Web Site Development 1st Floor 92 Victoria Street MACKAY Q 4740 Ph: 07 4953 4035 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jason Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design Jackie Reid wrote: I have included an hr class=clear to the bottom of my wrapper to make the white background appear. I tried div's br's and they didnt work. hr did. That's a bit strange I've never had a br class=clear / not work in firefox the spacing is fine but i can see the hr at the very bottom of the wrapper in ie i cant see the hr but i have too much space at the bottom of the page ...it should only show 5px margin... how do i make them go away...? I was trying to do this yesterday and eventually went back to using a br. IE was the only browser causing trouble, and I tried many different suggestions I found on the net I found a post by Eric Meyer to add visibility:hidden, but that still takes up space. So I would also like to hear if anyone has a solution Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
