Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Amit Karmakar wrote:
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css
It's pretty late over here, and I only brushed over the stuff but
#navcontainer
{
float: left;
width: 199px;
border-right: 1px solid #B4D3DC;
padding: 0 0 1em 0;
margin-bottom: 1em;
font-family: Verdana, Lucida, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
/*background-color: #99;*/
background: #C7E4E6;
color: #333;
}
I think your problem has a bit to do with the box model manhandling of IE6's engine.
When you're using
specified witdths in your CSS, be careful about also specifying the padding -- it'll
break lots of stuff
in IE. Can get around with Tantek's V-F hack
(http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html) or
just avoid using width+padding in block elements.
under #navigation li a, I don't think you should need a width:100% .. li will fill up
the space they reside
in horizontally unless limited by a max-width/width.
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Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Hello! This is my first message to the list, first of all, sorry my bad english, I'm spanish. The site seems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE Any help to get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated. People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks. Try deleting width:100%; in the rule #navcontainer li a I thimk it will work. Jose Florido * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6
They are right - you dont need width: 100%
the only adverse effect that will have - now you wont see the HOVER
Effect unless you hover over the TEXT and not the BOX
in IE ONLY...
Most other browsers this will work still...
NOTE:
Im only fairly sure what I said is true.
I have been in similar situations, and the width: 100% was the same
issue.
And removing it - caused what I described above to happen...
:)
Cheers
Chris Stratford
Ryan Christie wrote:
Amit Karmakar wrote:
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css
It's pretty late over here, and I only brushed over the stuff but
#navcontainer
{
float: left;
width: 199px;
border-right: 1px solid #B4D3DC;
padding: 0 0 1em 0;
margin-bottom: 1em;
font-family: Verdana, Lucida, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
/*background-color: #99;*/
background: #C7E4E6;
color: #333;
}
I think your problem has a bit to do with the box model manhandling of
IE6's engine. When you're using
specified witdths in your CSS, be careful about also specifying the
padding -- it'll break lots of stuff
in IE. Can get around with Tantek's V-F hack
(http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html) or
just avoid using width+padding in block elements.
under #navigation li a, I don't think you should need a width:100% ..
li will fill up the space they reside
in horizontally unless limited by a max-width/width.
RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Thanks Jose works like a charm! Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Florido Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6 Hello! This is my first message to the list, first of all, sorry my bad english, I'm spanish. The site seems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE Any help to get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated. People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks. Try deleting width:100%; in the rule #navcontainer li a I thimk it will work. Jose Florido * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Thanks Ryan!
Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com
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Behalf Of Ryan Christie
Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Amit Karmakar wrote:
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css
It's pretty late over here, and I only brushed over the stuff but
#navcontainer
{
float: left;
width: 199px;
border-right: 1px solid #B4D3DC;
padding: 0 0 1em 0;
margin-bottom: 1em;
font-family: Verdana, Lucida, Geneva, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
/*background-color: #99;*/
background: #C7E4E6;
color: #333;
}
I think your problem has a bit to do with the box model manhandling of IE6's
engine. When you're using specified witdths in your CSS, be careful about
also specifying the padding -- it'll break lots of stuff in IE. Can get
around with Tantek's V-F hack
(http://www.tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html) or just avoid using
width+padding in block elements.
under #navigation li a, I don't think you should need a width:100% .. li
will fill up the space they reside in horizontally unless limited by a
max-width/width.
--
Ryan Christie| e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harrisonburg, VA | w: http://shadyland.theward.net
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RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
You now have a problem that it doesnt
look correct in IE5 without the 100%
So maybe do something like in the
actual page:
!--[if IE 5]
style type=text/css media=screen#navcontainer li a{width: 100%;}/style![endif]--
Cheers
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
AWESOME!
Spot
on Jeff, you're a bottler!
Thanks,
I appreciate it muchly.
From:
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
This is your problem:#navcontainer li a{display: block;padding: 5px 5px 5px 0.5em;border-left: 10px solid #326263;border-right: 10px solid #92C6C7;background-color: #498485;color: #EDF7F8;text-decoration: none;width: 100%; - you dont need this}
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Subject: [WSG] Help with IE 6
People,
I did this
site over the last weekend.Still needs more work though.
The
siteseems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE
Any help to
get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated.
People on
macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks.
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css
Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com
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[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?
Im starting to create a Fluid CSS design, which im finding to be quite and arse in IE... But anyways, i've got the basic layout created, but i would now like to have a min-width, but just cant think of a way of getting it to work in IE. So what im asking is... Does anyone know a min-width work around or hack? that would at least give me the ability to set some form of restrain on the width of the site. Many thanks Mark www.phunky.co.uk * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?
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Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?
On 6/7/04 1:26 AM Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE So people don't actually answer questions here, they perform google searches for you? Cool! ;-) Rick Faaberg * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?
well its not bad to perform a search for you :P On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:35:46 -0700, Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/7/04 1:26 AM Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE So people don't actually answer questions here, they perform google searches for you? Cool! ;-) Rick Faaberg * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?
WinSyntax for winsucks BlueFish for mandrake On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:17:55 +1000, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I have started a new category on the WSG site call Development and design tools. I think at this point it would be a good idea for everyone to login and start listing all these programs on the WSG website so that we can refer to these in the future, without having to navigate thru a thread - their have been a few threads like this in the past. The first resource listed is Tim Hill's suggestion. All members have access to update this category so please add the editor you have discussed in this thread if it it is not listed (Tim, feel free to update yours). Once logged in go to Members and then Add resource article. http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat30 Cheers James Hill, Tim wrote: http://tsware.net/ TSW Web Coder, pretty cool app. Has great CSS support and can make it do automatic xhtml syntax etc. and its free, (need valid email though, but I haven't received any spam from it) Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct inside a table. Instead of thinking of ways to convert it into divs, you should be working on implementing accessibility features: id, headers for, summary, caption, etc. A rough example if id's and headers in action is here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/accessible/ Russ Greetings I'm trying to replace this table http://www.easyhttp.com/temp/plans.html with a table-less layout using only CSS divs no tables any idea how to do it ? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
thank you Russ you know what! I feel like you are the only one who can understand What web is and what Web standards is heh Thank you mate On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:07:57 +1000, Russ Weakley - Maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct inside a table. Instead of thinking of ways to convert it into divs, you should be working on implementing accessibility features: id, headers for, summary, caption, etc. A rough example if id's and headers in action is here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/accessible/ Russ Greetings I'm trying to replace this table http://www.easyhttp.com/temp/plans.html with a table-less layout using only CSS divs no tables any idea how to do it ? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
Thank you guys On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:21:36 +1000, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jad That really looks like table data to me so I think its best to keep it in tables. Tables are not evil in and of themselves, in fact they are very useful in cases like yours. Its just when they are abused that the problems start. If I was to improve on that code, i'd start by moving all the presentational stuff out to a style sheet (font tags, width height attributes). I'd also try to use some of the more semantic table related tags attributes like caption, thead, tfoot, th and so one. See http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#tables and http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/documents/doc_6_accesstable.html (view source on this one) for details. Cheers Mark - Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
Well said, mate. There's no need to convert to divs because you're using a table as it should be used. Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Weakley - Maxdesign Sent: 07 June 2004 11:08 To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct inside a table. Instead of thinking of ways to convert it into divs, you should be working on implementing accessibility features: id, headers for, summary, caption, etc. A rough example if id's and headers in action is here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/accessible/ Russ Greetings I'm trying to replace this table http://www.easyhttp.com/temp/plans.html with a table-less layout using only CSS divs no tables any idea how to do it ? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list
Is it just me, or does it take a good quarter of an hour for emails to appear on the list? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?
winsyntax http://www.WinSyntax.com by the way we are having three threads today for editors :-) On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:38:04 +0200, Kristof Neirynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noa wrote: Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. EditPlus http://editplus.com/ isn't free, as such, but it has an unlimited unrestricted trial mode, and better syntax highlighting. Also, it has a built in FTP browser. +1 Worth 36* its price. -- Kristof * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * -- http://www.jadmadi.net/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list
hmm seems that things are fine with me On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:38:44 +0100, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or does it take a good quarter of an hour for emails to appear on the list? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * -- http://www.jadmadi.net/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list
I'd wondered at that, Pat. At first joining I was double posting. Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer () www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patrick Lauke Sent: 07 June 2004 11:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list Is it just me, or does it take a good quarter of an hour for emails to appear on the list? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list
Guys Please address all issues related to the running of the list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are really trying to keep the noise on this list down to a mimimum and keep discussion to web standards related issues. If everyone could help it would be great and the list managers wouldn't feel so grumpy all the time. Cheers Mark - Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] List daddy lecture time (speaking of grumpy list managers)
Hi everyone, Please reply directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT the list. If need be I'll post relevant discussion somewhere. At the bottom of all posts (well most as it doesn't get added when people send horrible HTML email) there is a link to the guidelines. The link is http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Can I please ask you to read this page. A few points I'd like to emphasise: A) Try to use plain text email rather than HTML email where possible. B) Thank people that help you OFF LIST please. C) Read all the posts in your inbox before answering so that multiple similar answers are avoided as much as possible. Point A) There is generally no excuse (unless you're using a webmail interface) as to why you can't set your email program to force plain text email to this address. Point C) Not always possible as people may be writing the same answer at the same time but when the same answer comes in over a long period it's clear that some people are not checking the rest of the posts with the same subject before answering. I'll add another three here... D) If you are replying to multiple replies to your question, do them all in one email rather than replying to each one. E) When replying, clean up the post before sending. Remove the quoted bits that you're not replying to and remove the headers and the WSG footer from the previous post. It just makes it easier to read. Also, if it was an HTML email and you have the ability to reply in text format, please change it to plain text. F) For broad topics like Min-width, try Google or even searching our archives (in the members section of the website or on http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/) first. This should not always be your first place top look for information. Try the resources section of the WSG site as well. We are more than happy to help if you can't find an answer to a problem but at least try looking for the answer yourself first. Otherwise, the answer will probably be a link to a well-known resource and not a lot more. We have had a lot of traffic over the past 4 days and much of it was repetitive and should probably have been done directly to the poster. Repetitive and non-essential traffic is the main reason people leave the list. Just think about it when posting and try to be lean and considerate. Yes we do get complaints and frankly, I agree with them. Senders address are not hidden and it is often better to answer off list (I do as many of you know). If you can't see the address of the sender then you probably need to adjust the preferences in your mail reader to display it. I don't want to be grumpy about this but people are getting sick of opening their inbox on Monday morning and having 100+ messages from this list to wade through, especially when not much real discussion took place. It's counteractive as they'll probably delete them all and miss something that may have been of use to them. Be self regulatory so we don't have to step in. If it's off-topic, don't post it here. If you're not sure, ask us ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) first. If someone else posts an off-topic question (and you know it's off-topic) don't reply to it on list. If it's a thank you message to someone that helped you, then please thank them directly to their email address (and don't forget to do so). I am going to be heavy on OT posts from now on. This list DOES NOT cover everything. There is a list of what is and isn't on-topic in the guidelines and as stated before, the link is in the footer of most posts so you have no excuse for not knowing. You can all edit the resources section of the website so please take the initiative to set up new categories or add to the subjects that exist already. These resources are there to be used and may well answer some questions. Thanks for reading. I repeat... Please reply directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT the list (not that I expect any discussion on this). I'm not joking. Peter Firminger * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Many Browers in one place
People, My apologoes in advance if this has been discussed earlier. I know there are sites that let you test your sites on different browsers(browsers, version, OS). Something like http://browsers.evolt.org/, www.danvine.com/iecapture/ but are there softwares (online or offline) that lets users test a site offline for free? Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Many Browers in one place
VMware is my second bet or Virtual PC Camz - Original Message - From: Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: [WSG] Many Browers in one place People, My apologoes in advance if this has been discussed earlier. I know there are sites that let you test your sites on different browsers(browsers, version, OS). Something like http://browsers.evolt.org/, www.danvine.com/iecapture/ but are there softwares (online or offline) that lets users test a site offline for free? Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Many Browers in one place
Hmmm, neither seem free though :( http://www.browsercam.com/ http://www.vmware.com/ Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stanton Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Many Browers in one place http://www.browsercam.com/ On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:19:15 +1000, Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, My apologoes in advance if this has been discussed earlier. I know there are sites that let you test your sites on different browsers(browsers, version, OS). Something like http://browsers.evolt.org/, www.danvine.com/iecapture/ but are there softwares (online or offline) that lets users test a site offline for free? Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: +61 2 9299 9462 Fax: +61 2 9299 9463 Mob: +61 410 458 201 http://www.gruden.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
I tried to add a 'sublevel' to the exisiting lists in order to bring out
the second level.
Works fine in Opera/Win Mozilla/Win
But shows gaps in IE in the subnavlists.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks people.
URL: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/testindex.htm
CSS http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/textmaysvillerotary.css
Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com
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Behalf Of Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
You now have a problem that it doesn't look correct in IE5 without the
100%
So maybe do something like - in the actual page:
!--[if IE 5]
style type=text/css media=screen
#navcontainer li a
{
width: 100%;
}
/style
![endif]--
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AWESOME!
Spot on Jeff, you're a bottler!
Thanks, I appreciate it muchly.
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This is your problem:
#navcontainer li a
{
display: block;
padding: 5px 5px 5px 0.5em;
border-left: 10px solid #326263;
border-right: 10px solid #92C6C7;
background-color: #498485;
color: #EDF7F8;
text-decoration: none;
width: 100%; - you don't need this
}
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People,
I did this site over the last weekend. Still needs more work though.
The site seems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody
IE
Any help to get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated.
People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks.
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
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[WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies
Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm -- Web development, identity and design. co-ord.com Limited 9 Tynwald Road West Kirby Merseyside CH48 4DA Tel: +44 (0)151 625 1443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.co-ord.com -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies
Title: RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies What's the problem though captain? Jamie Mason: Design -Original Message- From: Martin Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 June 2004 16:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm -- Web development, identity and design. co-ord.com Limited 9 Tynwald Road West Kirby Merseyside CH48 4DA Tel: +44 (0)151 625 1443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.co-ord.com -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies
Martin, Be careful with DocTypes. NS6 adds white-space after objects. Anymore than that I'd need an example url. mike 2k:)2 -Original Message- From: Martin Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2004 16:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm -- Web development, identity and design. co-ord.com Limited 9 Tynwald Road West Kirby Merseyside CH48 4DA Tel: +44 (0)151 625 1443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.co-ord.com -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies
From: Martin Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/07 Mon AM 11:44:41 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm http://developer.netscape.com/docs/technote/gecko/n6release.html Gives you a list of known bugs in NS 6. Jeff Thanks! Jeff http://www.patandjeff.com * * Visit http://www.websites4199.com for an alternative to high development prices! Visit http://www.milliondollarsites.net if you just got to spend the big bucks and brag about it. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Unordered list problem on IE5.2Mac
Hi list :) I've got every other quirk squashed except this unordered list one. Is there a way to reposition the unordered list while keeping the square bullets where they're supposed to be, or will I have to fake this with a background image? I've gotten the text to move where it's supposed to be, but the bullets don't seem to care. The ul is inside a div, and the div is positioned. I thought maybe that would do the trick instead of repo the ul, but nope. page: http://www.theward.net/jmuweb/retool/index.html css: http://www.theward.net/jmuweb/retool/stylesheet.css =/ optional /== Comments on the site welcome. I'm not the designer, I just chop up the Photoshop files and program it. The other page the designer has given me is the 2nd level template ~ page: http://www.theward.net/jmuweb/level2/index.html page: http://www.theward.net/jmuweb/level2/stylesheet.css thanks! -- Ryan Christie| e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harrisonburg, VA | w: http://shadyland.theward.net ---() ()-- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Ten questions for Dan Cederholm
Dan Cederholm is the author of Web Standards Solutions: The Markup and Style Handbook as well as many articles on standards-based design for publications such as A List Apart . Dan also runs the popular weblog SimpleBits , where he writes articles and commentary on the web, technology and life. Read more: http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/dan-cederholm.cfm Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Non-linking printable text in Navigation Lists
Is there a trick that I haven't learned yet with regard to WAI Recommendation 10.5; to
wit:
10.5 Until user agents (including assistive technologies) render adjacent links
distinctly, include
non-link, printable characters (surrounded by spaces) between adjacent links.
[Priority 3]
The reason I ask, is that I have yet to see anything of the sort in the navigation
lists of the many
sites that have been posted to the list, thus far.
What method of 'you' using in 'your' nav lists to comply with this recommendation?
The technique that I have employed (in various forms) is to create a container for the
printable
character (and spaces) and then style it, display:none;.
eg.
style type=text/css
#navlist li em {
display:none;
}
/style
div id=navlist
ul
lia title=link somewhere href=#link somewhere/aem | em/li
/ul
/div
Any comments?
Roy
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Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? If I have gathered correctly what Russ and others said in the linearization thread, would it make more sense to have the columnar data in the rows, and vice-versa? That way, when the data is linearized, it will flow as: nbsp; = Disk Space = Bandwidth = c.; = Bronze = 400 MB = 7 GB = c.; = Silver = c.; = Gold = c.; = Platinum = c.; Please feel free to debunk this interpretation--I am here to learn, after all. Roy - Original Message - From: Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 5:59 AM Subject: RE: [WSG] getting ride of table layout That's a good one Russ, very handy, helps build a mental picture too! Thanks. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Weakley - Maxdesign Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 8:08 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct inside a table. Instead of thinking of ways to convert it into divs, you should be working on implementing accessibility features: id, headers for, summary, caption, etc. A rough example if id's and headers in action is here: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/accessible/ Russ Greetings I'm trying to replace this table http://www.easyhttp.com/temp/plans.html with a table-less layout using only CSS divs no tables any idea how to do it ? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? In the case of properly coded (read: with correct table headings, scope, etc) data tables, meaningful linearisation should be taken care of by the user agent. Don't worry about it...this should not, in my view anyway, influence your table structure; the actual nature of the data should. The table, as it stands in the thread starter's example, works fine the way it is. Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk winmail.dat
RE: [WSG] Non-linking printable text in Navigation Lists
This is arguably an obsolete rule. I would posit that it does not apply to cases in which links are contained within completely separate block level elements (e.g. unordered lists' items). It is, however, good practice to still use some sort of separator (pipe, or even a non-breaking space character) in the case where links are adjacent within the same block (even if they're contained within separate inline elements, e.g. span). My interpretation, anyway. Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk winmail.dat
Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies
Hi Netscape 6 is not a stable browser, it's built off Mozilla alpha code (i.e about 0.9) (v7 is a branch off Mozilla 1.1, I believe). There is a thread on this topic about a month or two back with some links to the Mozilla roadmap - try a search at mail-archive.com The 6 was put in for Netscape to get ahead of MSIE in the versioning game - you'll find less people use it than Netscape 4. HTH James Martin Chapman wrote: Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm -- Web development, identity and design. co-ord.com Limited 9 Tynwald Road West Kirby Merseyside CH48 4DA Tel: +44 (0)151 625 1443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.co-ord.com -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?
Hi As I posted before, let's put these up on the WSG website, not on the list. An archive would contribute better to the group and are the posts are now tending to just take up bandwidth now on the list as we are just getting a pile of emails with links in them. Cheers James Jad Madi wrote: winsyntax http://www.WinSyntax.com by the way we are having three threads today for editors :-) * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
Henry, Weird, but it works!! Thanks for helping me out. Appreciate that. http://www.maysvillerotary.org/testindex.htm Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Tapia Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6 Hi all, My first email to the list, just joined a couple of days ago.. Amit, that one looks like IE's rendering of a space character between li's containing block elements ie. a style=display:block , when you have white space between your lis (as one would). eg: lia href=#subitem two/ali lia href=#subitem three/ali will leave a space between items, but: lia href=#subitem two/alilia href=#subitem three/ali will not result in the space.. I'm not quite sure if there's a tidy solution to this... I'm currently either putting all lis on a single line of code, or breaking the tags in an irregular manner. Anyone got anything better? hank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6 I tried to add a 'sublevel' to the exisiting lists in order to bring out the second level. Works fine in Opera/Win Mozilla/Win But shows gaps in IE in the subnavlists. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks people. URL: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/testindex.htm CSS http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/textmaysvillerotary.css Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Ordered list mark-up
Title: Ordered list mark-up Hi guys, I was wondering if you could tell me how to mark-up an ordered list using CSS so that the bullets are enclosed in parenthesis, e.g. (a) Text piece 1 (b) Whatever Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. *
Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?
Thats funny Mark.. I happened to hit Froogle by accident after following that link and look what I found.. http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=min-width%20IEhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wf Good to see Westciv in there. eh John? Regards Chris Blown On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 18:26, Mark Stanton wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies - (interesting subject line)
Indiscrepancies = cross between indiscretions and discrepancies? :-) Jonathan Cooper Manager of Information / Website Art Gallery of New South Wales Sydney, Australia http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Ordered list mark-up
G'day
Well, the specs appear to have provision for it. Unfortunately the vast
majority of browsers do not (yet) seem to support it.
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN
HTML
HEAD
TITLEContent alignment in the marker box/TITLE
STYLE type=text/css
LI:before {
display: marker;
content: ( counter(counter,lower-alpha) ) ;
counter-increment: counter;
width: 3em;
text-align: center;
}
/STYLE
/HEAD
BODY
OL
LI This is the first item.
LI This is the second item.
LI This is the third item.
/OL
/BODY
/HTML
I've tested this code in Opera 7.5, MSIE 6, Mozilla 1.6 and Firefox 0.8.
It worked only in Opera, where it displayed both the regular 1 and the
(a) like this:
1. (a) This is the first item.
2. (b) This is the second item.
3. (c) This is the third item.
(you'd need to set the ol's list-style to none, to suppress the numbers)
The others just showed a numbered list:
1. This is the first item.
2. This is the second item.
3. This is the third item.
Perhaps others have experimented with this and found a way for it to work in
other browsers.
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Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:07:36 -0600, RC Pierce wrote: One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? snip nbsp; = Disk Space = Bandwidth = c.; = Bronze = 400 MB = 7 GB = c.; = Silver = c.; = Gold = c.; = Platinum = c.; I haven't looked at the source of the table in the OP, but if you correctly use th tags to define which cells are the headers, and only use td tags for the content cells then the browser will handle this for you. You can get clever and offer abbreviations and such - I believe the attribute is 'abbr'? - but I don't have an URL handy. Google is your friend. :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] IE 7 Promo Images
Title: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images Hey guys. Yerba Buena Web Design (my own small design agency, which hasn't even officially opened yet) has created two IE 7 Promo Images. Dean Edwards modified the first one (to fit his layout and design) and made it the official IE 7 Logo. http://www.geocities.com/seanmhall2003/ie7.html I'd like your opinion on these two images (please remember that I'm a beginner at design). I hope you like them :)
Re: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images
Title: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images Im having trouble understanding how you think IE7 would be broken?! I wouldnt abuse IE7 to be broken without it actually being released yet. It might shock you ;) Microsoft have said their putting more time and manpower into IE7 than previous versions... Camz - Original Message - From: Sean M. Hall (Dante) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images Hey guys. Yerba Buena Web Design (my own small design agency, which hasn't even officially opened yet) has created two IE 7 Promo Images. Dean Edwards modified the first one (to fit his layout and design) and made it the official IE 7 Logo. http://www.geocities.com/seanmhall2003/ie7.html I'd like your opinion on these two images (please remember that I'm a beginner at design). I hope you like them :)
ADMIN - OT Re: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images
On 8 Jun 2004 03:39:27 +, Sean M. Hall (Dante) wrote: I'd like your opinion on these two images (please remember that I'm a beginner at design). Could replies to Sean on this topic please go directly to him? Sean, This is not a general web/ graphic design list, perhaps you'd like to go find one for this sort of discussion? http://webdesign-l.com/ is one suggestion. Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] new window losing it's anchor place
I'm using the recommended accessible way to open a new browser window (yes, I know but it's an elearning module and we have to link out to internal content so learners can view reference material without losing their place, plus they are quite used to this method). However, I'm finding that if the window is opened small to an anchor on the opened page, when the window is resized, the content in the window changes to another section of the page - about a half page worth downwards a href=http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work; onclick=window.open(this.href, 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false; any fixes welcome... WP Wendy Phillips Job Ready (Learning Development) Customer Sales Service ___ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place
Title: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Hi Wendy 1. Where is #how_work on the page? 2. You should also add onkeypress=window.open(this.href, 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false; just to make sure it's available via keyboard only. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phillips, Wendy Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place I'm using the recommended accessible way to open a new browser window (yes, I know but it's an elearning module and we have to link out to internal content so learners can view reference material without losing their place, plus they are quite used to this method). However, I'm finding that if the window is opened small to an anchor on the opened page, when the window is resized, the content in the window changes to another section of the page - about a half page worth downwards a href="" href="http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work">http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false; any fixes welcome... WP Wendy Phillips Job Ready (Learning Development) Customer Sales Service ___ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place
Title: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Not sure how onkeypress would interfere with other similar links on the page - the link can be tabbed to and therefore works via keyboard only. The page that opens in the new window has a number of anchor links - this is just one of them. I've tried changing to different anchors and the same problem occurs, unless it is the last anchor on the page and there is no where else for the window to shift to. I can only presume it's something to do with the window refreshing itself when it is resized? WP Wendy Phillips Job Ready (Learning Development) Customer Sales Service___ -Original Message-From: Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004 2:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Hi Wendy 1. Where is #how_work on the page? 2. You should also add onkeypress="window.open(this.href, 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false;" just to make sure it's available via keyboard only. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phillips, Wendy Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place I'm using the recommended accessible way to open a new browser window (yes, I know but it's an elearning module and we have to link out to internal content so learners can view reference material without losing their place, plus they are quite used to this method). However, I'm finding that if the window is opened small to an anchor on the opened page, when the window is resized, the content in the window changes to another section of the page - about a half page worth downwards a href=""http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work">http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work" any fixes welcome... WP Wendy Phillips Job Ready (Learning Development) Customer Sales Service ___ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
