Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines
Hello Terrence Wood, You are right. The first issue is the relevancy here. If you go to my homepage at http://www.geocities.com/seo_advice/ and view the source code, you'll see that the meta data, especially for the keywords is nothing but what has already appeared in the content. Hence my page is not spam. If the Dublin Core Meta Standards was used, I would have first been penalized for duplicate Meta Content and moreover, Google seeing that my Meta Data and content are not in unison will also penalise my current rankings. Regards, Dilip Samuel ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:32:56 +1000, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I miss anything imprtant? Yes. A 'z' in: http://www.mezoblue.com/ :) -- Lindsay Evans http://lindsayevans.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)
So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Damian Sweeney wrote: Regarding skip to content links, I found this article recently about usability testing of screen reader users: http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/0304-observing.html In particular under the 'Many want to skip the navigation, but don't use that feature' section: Some developers have used the phrase Skip to Content instead of Skip Navigation. Good idea. But it does not work because content in English can be a noun or an adjective. JAWS reads it here as an adjective with the accent on the second syllable. So it does not make sense to users. A solution that does seem to work is Skip to Main Content. JAWS reads that correctly as the noun content with the accent on the first syllable. Cheers, Damian I like it. Clean and simple. IMO, you should include a skip to content link for the screen readers. ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Daniel Bowling wrote: Hello, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my personal site regarding design, standards compliance, usability and general code quality. http://www.danbowling.com Thank you for your time, Dan Bowling W: http://www.danbowling.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)
Clarify the destination. So if there is more than one set of content B. otherwise A. mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] site: http://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink -Original Message- From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request) So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Damian Sweeney wrote: Regarding skip to content links, I found this article recently about usability testing of screen reader users: http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/0304-observing.html In particular under the 'Many want to skip the navigation, but don't use that feature' section: Some developers have used the phrase Skip to Content instead of Skip Navigation. Good idea. But it does not work because content in English can be a noun or an adjective. JAWS reads it here as an adjective with the accent on the second syllable. So it does not make sense to users. A solution that does seem to work is Skip to Main Content. JAWS reads that correctly as the noun content with the accent on the first syllable. Cheers, Damian I like it. Clean and simple. IMO, you should include a skip to content link for the screen readers. ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Daniel Bowling wrote: Hello, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my personal site regarding design, standards compliance, usability and general code quality. http://www.danbowling.com Thank you for your time, Dan Bowling W: http://www.danbowling.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)
congrats! I like your car analogy... ./tdw Jason Foss wrote: Greetings! I penned a bit of a summary of some of the things I learned at WE04, and Sitepoint have published it! http://www.sitepoint.com or straight to the article: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/essentials-modern-web-design Did I miss anything imprtant? Well, it's too late now if I did, but I think I covered mostly everything within the scope of the article. (Not everything at the conference mind you!) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
ADMIN Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:37:41 +0100, john wrote: A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation I think we have strayed way off topic now. Can people please direct replies directly to John? Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core member ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Strange CSS Problem
Hi, Dont suppose anyone can give me some help with some strange CSS behaviour in Firefox and Opera (Not Opera6 though, works fine). http://www.eyota.net The left hand menu initially loads so it sits half way up the header (it stops in the middle of the image and skip's the two divs that are in between, if that makes sense). Hitting refresh in firebird 'fixes' this, and mousing over a link in Opera 'fixes' this. Any help is much apprecieated, Kind Regards, Jamie. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)
Skip Navigation because it's conventional. Oh, and hello, this is my first post :) Aaron Pollock -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request) So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Damian Sweeney wrote: Regarding skip to content links, I found this article recently about usability testing of screen reader users: http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/0304-observing.html In particular under the 'Many want to skip the navigation, but don't use that feature' section: Some developers have used the phrase Skip to Content instead of Skip Navigation. Good idea. But it does not work because content in English can be a noun or an adjective. JAWS reads it here as an adjective with the accent on the second syllable. So it does not make sense to users. A solution that does seem to work is Skip to Main Content. JAWS reads that correctly as the noun content with the accent on the first syllable. Cheers, Damian I like it. Clean and simple. IMO, you should include a skip to content link for the screen readers. ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Daniel Bowling wrote: Hello, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my personal site regarding design, standards compliance, usability and general code quality. http://www.danbowling.com Thank you for your time, Dan Bowling W: http://www.danbowling.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem
Hey Sorry i cant help No time to check - too many uni assessments. Just wanted to say... that is a damn nice bug you got yourself there! I would guess you used absolute positioning somewhere and thats having a party and your page is the dance floor... I never liked abs positioning... But I am prob. wrong! Cheers! Jamie Lewis wrote: Hi, Dont suppose anyone can give me some help with some strange CSS behaviour in Firefox and Opera (Not Opera6 though, works fine). http://www.eyota.net The left hand menu initially loads so it sits half way up the header (it stops in the middle of the image and skip's the two divs that are in between, if that makes sense). Hitting refresh in firebird 'fixes' this, and mousing over a link in Opera 'fixes' this. Any help is much apprecieated, Kind Regards, Jamie. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: ADMIN Re: [WSG] skip to content
Lea de Groot wrote: I think we have strayed way off topic now. My apologies. I thought it was on-topic with Web standards. ~john ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem
nah you'r right, ive used ab's. its solved loads of other problems i had before i discovered this one. But my CSS isnt amazing so it sort of leaves me stuck :-( Jamie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Stratford Sent: 27 October 2004 11:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem Hey Sorry i cant help No time to check - too many uni assessments. Just wanted to say... that is a damn nice bug you got yourself there! I would guess you used absolute positioning somewhere and thats having a party and your page is the dance floor... I never liked abs positioning... But I am prob. wrong! Cheers! Jamie Lewis wrote: Hi, Dont suppose anyone can give me some help with some strange CSS behaviour in Firefox and Opera (Not Opera6 though, works fine). http://www.eyota.net The left hand menu initially loads so it sits half way up the header (it stops in the middle of the image and skip's the two divs that are in between, if that makes sense). Hitting refresh in firebird 'fixes' this, and mousing over a link in Opera 'fixes' this. Any help is much apprecieated, Kind Regards, Jamie. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem
Hi, Try this: #leftmenu - replace position:absolute; left:0px; with: float: left; #pagebody - remove clear:both; Regards, Mark Voss ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem
Thats the one, cheers Mark! Jamie. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Voss Sent: 27 October 2004 12:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Strange CSS Problem Hi, Try this: #leftmenu - replace position:absolute; left:0px; with: float: left; #pagebody - remove clear:both; Regards, Mark Voss ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WE04 Summary (blowing my own trumpet)
Oops - I'll get that fixed. Keen eye! Thanks! On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:18:59 +1000, Lindsay Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:32:56 +1000, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did I miss anything imprtant? Yes. A 'z' in: http://www.mezoblue.com/ :) -- Lindsay Evans http://lindsayevans.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Jason Foss Almost Anything Desktop Publishing www.almost-anything.com.au Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia We can do almost anything! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] skip to content
john wrote: So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation D. Putting content first, navigation later and a using a Skip to navigation link -- Manuel trabaja para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 escribe en Logicola http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] skip to content
Hi Aaron, Welcome to the list. I'm about to disagree with your , please don't take it personally, it's just another POV =). skip navigation may be convention, but apparently the preference of actual screen reader users is main content or similar (based on some research I have read and user testing). The reasons are: 1. skip navigation is jargon - main content is more descriptive. 2. main content describes the destination rather than the action of following the link - the same behaviour we (should) expect when following any other link. Now onto my opinions 3. skip navigation implies a fixed source order: the navigation is first and content second. However, I don't structure my pages this way. For me skip navigation is usually skip to navigation (which describes the destination). 4. main content can appear anywhere in the source order, and anywhere in the visual design and make sense, whereas skip links sometimes seem broken/out of place in a visual design, especially when a browser doesn't have proper keyboard focussing (e.g. when you tab to a skip link the keyboard focus doesn't follow the link.) cheers ./tdw Aaron Pollock wrote: Skip Navigation because it's conventional. Oh, and hello, this is my first post :) Aaron Pollock -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request) So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation ~john ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?
Hi, Semantical question. I have a list of sportscenters I need to display. I used to do this in a table layout. but how do I do this in semantically correct CSS/XHTML ? - | pic1 | address1 | - | pic2 | address2 | . . . | pic x | addressx | I've been thinking about floating left and right, seperate divs / spans, ... just don't know the best solution. Anyone with ideas ? Regards, .K ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?
There's probably no *one* really correct way of doing this, but off the top of my head, two ideas would be: 1) make it an unordered list with addresses, and use CSS to leave enough padding on the left and stick the image in there as a background 2) use a definition list, with the image as DT and the address as DD Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] two column IE issues - SOLVED
Darren Wood wrote:
snip /
IE completely wrecks my design, refusing to float the sidenav to the right.
Any ideas how I could possibly fix this?
[NOTE: this thread is likely to bore most of you so please send
responses offlist, and I'll send the solution at the end once one
presents itself.]
Hey all,
Thanks for the replies. The issue has been solved by using a decedant
selector to hide the correct width from IE.
Joseph Lindsay provided the solution:
#sideNav {
width: 223px; /*fixed for IE */
margin-left: 453px;
background: #cdd2e0;
border-top: 20px solid #FFF;
text-align: left;
}
#wrapper#sidenav {
width: 225px; /* corrected for compliant browsers */
}
Thanks Joe!
Cheers
Darren
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[WSG] that darn IE
Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably because form
elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and those of us that are a bit
weaker throw up our arms and scream for our mommies. So, here it is.
We have select boxes that show the entire word on firefox, if the word is long, it
stretches the dropdown to fit it.
In IE 6win, I don't know about the others at this time, the width of the dropdown is
constrained to a set width and overflow is hidden.
Here is the appropriate style
#leftquote select {width:48%; float:left;margin:2px 0; }
You can see the effect on this page http://www.csatravelprotection.com
look at the destination dropdown in the left side.
Thanks for any feedback
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Re: [WSG] that darn IE
I see what you mean. What happens if you set overflow to visible?
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:55:33 -0700, Ted Drake
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Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably because form
elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and those of us that are a bit
weaker throw up our arms and scream for our mommies. So, here it is.
We have select boxes that show the entire word on firefox, if the word is long, it
stretches the dropdown to fit it.
In IE 6win, I don't know about the others at this time, the width of the dropdown is
constrained to a set width and overflow is hidden.
Here is the appropriate style
#leftquote select {width:48%; float:left;margin:2px 0; }
You can see the effect on this page http://www.csatravelprotection.com
look at the destination dropdown in the left side.
Thanks for any feedback
Ted
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Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)
While I agree with the idea of clarifying the destination, I disagree with the logic of your choice here. The pronunciation issues with A are significant enough to warrant B as the first choice. Cheers, Kevin On 27/10/04 6:48 PM, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarify the destination. So if there is more than one set of content B. otherwise A. mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] site: http://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink -Original Message- From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2004 09:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request) So, what do others think? A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Damian Sweeney wrote: Regarding skip to content links, I found this article recently about usability testing of screen reader users: http://www.stcsig.org/usability/newsletter/0304-observing.html In particular under the 'Many want to skip the navigation, but don't use that feature' section: Some developers have used the phrase Skip to Content instead of Skip Navigation. Good idea. But it does not work because content in English can be a noun or an adjective. JAWS reads it here as an adjective with the accent on the second syllable. So it does not make sense to users. A solution that does seem to work is Skip to Main Content. JAWS reads that correctly as the noun content with the accent on the first syllable. Cheers, Damian I like it. Clean and simple. IMO, you should include a skip to content link for the screen readers. ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter Daniel Bowling wrote: Hello, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for my personal site regarding design, standards compliance, usability and general code quality. http://www.danbowling.com Thank you for your time, Dan Bowling W: http://www.danbowling.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?
I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html The reason for the hard line breaks in the address is because it is part of the content, so when styles are removed, it still has the appropriate structure. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] A little CSS question
Hi, Is it possible to have an img tag imediately after a ul tag. If not, what are the alternatives? Is it possible to have more than on float right, float left tags, and are there any alternatives. Is the display:block-inline supported? Can you guys comment on the design of troidus.com Thanks Indranil ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?
Trovster wrote: I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html My option nr 2) then ;-) Agree, the line breaks in this case can be argued as being part of the content (as we still don't have anything like the line element in xhtml2) Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] How-to: Create a list with pictures / detail?
Yes, your option, just marked-up completely and hopefully correctly! On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:03:23 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trovster wrote: I would do the following - http://trov.ath.cx/comm/~test/WSG/sportscenters.html My option nr 2) then ;-) Agree, the line breaks in this case can be argued as being part of the content (as we still don't have anything like the line element in xhtml2) Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- http://www.trovster.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:25:29 +1000, Damian Sweeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, snip Firstly, am I using fieldset and legend in the correct semantic manner? Many thanks, It was my understanding that fieldsets and legends were only to be used with forms to make them easier to use. Although I'm not 100% sure that using them in your case would be incorrect. - Clayton Clayton Lengel-Zigich http://www.lengelzigich.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] that darn IE
I tried overflow and other things on both the
select and option elements, didn't seem to make any difference in IE
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I see what you mean. What happens if you set overflow to visible?
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:55:33 -0700, Ted Drake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a question that I haven't seen mentioned very often. probably
because form elements normally make the strong-willed folks quiver and
those of us that are a bit weaker throw up our arms and scream for our
mommies. So, here it is.
We have select boxes that show the entire word on firefox, if the word is
long, it stretches the dropdown to fit it.
In IE 6win, I don't know about the others at this time, the width of the
dropdown is constrained to a set width and overflow is hidden.
Here is the appropriate style
#leftquote select {width:48%; float:left;margin:2px 0; }
You can see the effect on this page http://www.csatravelprotection.com
look at the destination dropdown in the left side.
Thanks for any feedback
Ted
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Return Receipt Your RE: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request) document : was Kathryn Ross/Australia/IBM received by: at: 28/10/2004 14:06:08 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE misbehaving with a list
Using that great resource, the Listutorial (http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listutorial/roll_master.htm), I thought I would rework some navigation with a CSS-styled list, instead of images and rollovers. However, just using the basic version of the CSS rollover lists, I'm finding that MS IE 5 is adding a gap between list items if I add any font declarations anywhere eg. adding font-family and/or font-size to the containing DIV or the UL, LI or A elements. Firefox behaves perfectly, as you would expect. Can anyone offer any suggestions for how I can add in some font declarations for my navigation list? I need the ability to define completely different text for the navigation list from the rest of the page. Here are some samples: List with no font == http://www.thesamaras.com/test/nav_no_font.htm List with font declaration == http://www.thesamaras.com/test/nav_with_font.htm Thanks everyone, Anura ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE misbehaving with a list
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:43:35 +1000, Anura Samara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, just using the basic version of the CSS rollover lists, I'm finding that MS IE 5 is adding a gap between list items if I add any font declarations anywhere eg. adding font-family and/or font-size to the containing DIV or the UL, LI or A elements. Try removing all line breaks between your list items, ie: ulliitem one/liliitem two/li/ul Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
