Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?
designer schrieb: ... FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image. (on the face of it, they are all the same) If I refresh the page the lines disappear, but on scrolling they come back again. http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/galleryv2.html cannot see these lines in your demo, but https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269840 Strange lines appear when scrolling down, then back up provides more testcases. Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semantic tag for copyright slug?
Of course, with XHTML, you can actually define your own tags (includingcopyright /, trademark /, flyingpigs /). And don't forget namespaces as well (fairytales:flyingpigs /) flyingpigs It'll be nice when all browsers behave and play together in the same playground. /flyingpigs signatureGary Menzel/signature PS [Is it FLEX?, is it XAML?, NO- it's.. JAML - _javascript_ Application Markup Language (watch this space)] /PS On 5/1/05, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James -Thanks for the reply as well as the clarification about the Label tag. I'llcontinue using p's for copyright info. Cole- Original Message -From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 1:02 PMSubject: Re: [WSG] Semantic tag for copyright slug? Hi Cole Label is a form field tag... it can't be used outside of a form. (well it can but you'll have invalid html according to the w3c) http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/forms/label.html The issue here is how far you go with your semantics. Do we have a tag for trademark, registered mark, service mark?. To all intents and purposes it's a paragraph or phrase of text on the page. Cheers James On 4/30/05, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This maybe taking the whole semantic thing too far, but is there a copywright tag (not the Meta Tag) that one should use for copyright information? I've searched the web, but can't find one defined other than the metatag. The use for this would be - frequenlty for my projects - in the footer, where you say Copyright 2005 - some company, inc. all rights reserved. That kind of thing. I've been enclosing this kind of information in p/p tags for years, but am just wondering if there's a more semantically-appropriate tag touse - like label/label maybe? Cole ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Semantic tag for copyright slug?
On Sun, 01 May 2005 04:23:35 +0100, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This maybe taking the whole semantic thing too far, but is there a copywright tag (not the Meta Tag) that one should use for copyright information? I've searched the web, but can't find one defined other than the meta tag. The use for this would be - frequenlty for my projects - in the footer, where you say Copyright 2005 - some company, inc. all rights reserved. That kind of thing. WHATWG for (unofficial) HTML5 decided to give semantics to small tag as small print - ideal for copyright. http://whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#the-small -- regards, Kornel Lesiski [ http://osiolki.net ] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] To table or not to table, the form question
Thank you Kornel,
How exactly do I write this * html div {clear: both;} in my html?
tee
There you go:
divinput /label /div
div class=oddinput /label /div
div {float: left; clear: right; width: 49%;}
* html div {clear: both;}
div.odd {float: right; width: 49%;}
h3 {clear: both;}
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[WSG] disappearing element in page
I am creating a page using a fluid two column layout. I think I have the page looking the way I want it in Firefox/win. It also looks OK in IE/win, but if I narrow the IE window enough that a horizontal scroll bar appears and refresh, or go to the page for the first time, the menu area (on the left) disappears. If I then widen the window far enough for the scroll bar to go away, the menu appears and remains visible, even if I narrow the window again. The menu will stay visible until I refresh the window again with the scroll bar visible. Here is a link to the page http://hyperbole-software.com/movie-buzz/ and it's css is here http://hyperbole-software.com/movie-buzz/main.css The page is composed of a div called #menu that is position: absolute ( this is the one that vanishes) and a second div called #center-layout. #menu contains a ul containing links to other pages and #center-layout contains several other divs used to layout the center part of the page. I had thought this might be a peek-a-boo bug and have applied position: relative to #menu and its children and to #center-layout and most of its children. That didn't change the behavior at all. Since none of these changes helped, I removed them to keep the css file uncluttered. Would you please take a look at the page and see if you can suggest a solution? Thank you very much for any assistance. Carl. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?
I experience this vertical line problem quite a bit. It only happens on my Mac - using Firefox. It's something to do with Firefox, because it doesn't seem to happen in any other browser. Also, I don't recommend Firefox for the Mac. For the PC, it's great. The Mac version has issues. MATTHOM matthom.com/ On 4/29/05, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, I have been trying to produce a gallery thing without using a table, and my test file has four images in a vertical column. It all seems fine, except in FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image. (on the face of it, they are all the same) If I refresh the page the lines disappear, but on scrolling they come back again. No other browser (by which I mean IE6 and 5.5, Opera, Mozilla) displays this problem. The file in question (which includes the CSS as yet) is at: http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/galleryv2.html If anyone could take a look and advise I'd be really grateful, as it's driving me nuts. The CSS is simple - the soln isn't. I'm using winXP and a Matrox graphics card (which may or may not be relevant, of course). I have also looked at this on two pc's . . . Thank you, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?
Matt Thommes wrote: I experience this vertical line problem quite a bit. It only happens on my Mac - using Firefox. I think the original problem was _horizontal lines_ on backgrounds on a vertically aligned image-gallery. The fix was 'display: table;' I think, but that's a case by case solution and _not_ a perfect fix. It's something to do with Firefox, because it doesn't seem to happen in any other browser. Each browser-engine has its own set of bugs and flaws. At least some 10,000 weak points in each of the best ones, not to mention the various bug-combinations. No browsers are at more than some 70% standard-support yet. Also, I don't recommend Firefox for the Mac. For the PC, it's great. The Mac version has issues. File some bug reports on those issues, so they may be fixed. That's the only way to promote standard-compliance in browsers. Also: check your Mac, as I usually see the same issues on both platforms. Our influence on which browser the regular web-surfer should use is highly limited, so we better learn how to make our designs work as well as they can in as many browsers as we can -- bugs or not. My recommendation is: spoon-feed all browsers with standard details, as if no browser knows anything. Most bugs are brought under control when such a meal is digested, and a large percentage of the remaining are human bugs. Those are the fun part in web design. :-) regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?
On 2/5/05 8:04 AM, Matt Thommes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I experience this vertical line problem quite a bit. It only happens on my Mac - using Firefox. It's something to do with Firefox, because it doesn't seem to happen in any other browser. Also, I don't recommend Firefox for the Mac. For the PC, it's great. The Mac version has issues. Issues? The only serious one I've come across is the completely non-functional Import from file feature. It also delivers more JavaScript errors than any other browser on either platform (apologies to Linux users). Camino has even more issues (naturally, at v0.8.4), but access to the Web Developer toolbar for Firefox certainly makes up for any (real or imagined) shortcomings for anyone hoping to use Web Standards. (For the record, Firefox is my primary browser on both platforms.) Sorry if this is off-topic. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Padding tables in IE
I am having difficulties getting IE to give a table a padding-left. I can't
figure out why this doesn't work, but perhaps somebody else can see my
mistake:
http://www.adictivemedia.com.au/clients/gta/home2.html
You can see on the Drafts Table that the text overlaps the left side of
the background-image. This only seems to happen in IE - Firefox acknowledges
the padding I gave the table and moves everything 25px inwards:
#draft table{padding:0 15px 0 25px;}
Any ideas on how this could be fixed?
Thanks heaps!
Andreas Boehmer
User Experience Consultant
Phone: (03) 9386 8907
Mobile: (0411) 097 038
http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au
Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development
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[WSG] Jumping text in FF and Netscape
Hello everyone -
I've got this not-so-critical but annoying problem with text
below an image. When the page loads, there'stoo much space (between the
bottom of the image and top of the text), but if you refresh the browser, the
text snaps back to the correct position.
This only happens in FF and Netscape - and only happens on the
2nd and 3rd images. It doesn't happen on the first image at all (strange?), nor
doesIt happen in IE - which leads me to believe that I've left something
out of the css.
Here's the page in question: www.sheavens.com
The first small image on the left, as well as it's caption
looks as it should.
On the second and third image, however, there's too much space
between the bottom of the image and the top of the image caption.
As stated before, if you hit refresh, the text snaps back to
the correct spacing.
Here's the rule I've got for the text beneath the
image:
#sideBarGallery p.caption {margin: 5px 0px 15px
0px;padding: 0;font: bold 8px Verdana,
sans-serif;color: #003399;}
The rule I have for all images is:
img {display: block;margin:
0;padding: 0;border: 0;}
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
Cole
RE: [WSG] Jumping text in FF and Netscape
Hi Cole,
I am having the same problem on a website
that Im working on and Im also stuck hmm! Let us know if
you find a solution Id be interested!!
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Sent: Monday, 2 May 2005 3:43 p.m.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Jumping text in FF
and Netscape
Hello everyone -
I've got this not-so-critical but annoying problem with text below an
image. When the page loads, there'stoo much space (between the bottom of
the image and top of the text), but if you refresh the browser, the text snaps
back to the correct position.
This only happens in FF and Netscape - and only happens on the 2nd and
3rd images. It doesn't happen on the first image at all (strange?), nor
doesIt happen in IE - which leads me to believe that I've left something
out of the css.
Here's the page in question: www.sheavens.com
The first small image on the left, as well as it's caption looks as it
should.
On the second and third image, however, there's too much space between
the bottom of the image and the top of the image caption.
As stated before, if you hit refresh, the text snaps back to the
correct spacing.
Here's the rule I've got for the text beneath the image:
#sideBarGallery p.caption {
margin: 5px 0px 15px 0px;
padding: 0;
font: bold 8px Verdana, sans-serif;
color: #003399;
}
The rule I have for all images is:
img {
display: block;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border: 0;
}
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
Cole
