Re: [WSG] Re: Microformats was [ Is this a good use of dl ]
I m sorry !!I m learngin,I new thanks God bless you!! 2007/7/8, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Microformats are about creating standards, standards for software vendors and web developers. In the future, with the use of powerful web technologies search engines and such will be able to aggrigate results from class name, software will be able to collect information from them aswell. Its about moving forward, and microformats is very new still, there will be teething problems, but i can see a bright future for them and they do have some powerful uses. I mean, look at the tails export addon for firefox, that allows to extract contact info, events/calander info and some other powerful features, all because of Microformats. I would much rather be able to save contact info with the click of a mouse rather then copy and paste and save it all manually. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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[WSG] Shadow validation
I don't understand what the W3C validator is objecting to here:
Value Error : text-shadow Property text-shadow doesn't exist :
#7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px
Offending CSS:
h2, h3 {
margin: 24px 0 0;
font-size: 1.4em;
text-shadow: #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px;
color: #25447d;
line-height: 1.4em;
}
Please excuse me if I'm incurably dense,
Dean
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Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Hey dean,
I am probaly wrong, but i think text-shadow is a CSS3 spec which might not
be picked up by the validation
On 7/10/07, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand what the W3C validator is objecting to here:
Value Error : text-shadow Property text-shadow doesn't exist :
#7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px
Offending CSS:
h2, h3 {
margin: 24px 0 0;
font-size: 1.4em;
text-shadow: #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px;
color: #25447d;
line-height: 1.4em;
}
Please excuse me if I'm incurably dense,
Dean
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Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Text-shadow's part of the CSS3 spec and not CSS 2.1 isn't it? So if you're
validating against CSS 2.1, you'll get an error.
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:03:46 +1000, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't understand what the W3C validator is objecting to here:
Value Error : text-shadow Property text-shadow doesn't exist : #7f7f7f
2px 2px 2px
Offending CSS:
h2, h3 {
margin: 24px 0 0;
font-size: 1.4em;
text-shadow: #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px;
color: #25447d;
line-height: 1.4em;
}
Please excuse me if I'm incurably dense,
Dean
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Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 9, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Cameron Singe wrote: am probaly wrong, but i think text-shadow is a CSS3 spec which might not be picked up by the validation Nope, your right. I thought I was dense but now I think the W3C is just behind the curve ;-) Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Dean Matthews wrote: I thought I was dense but now I think the W3C is just behind the curve ;-) Not really, just chose the appropriate options (advanced...) when you try to validate a file. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. (Does Firefox? I can only think of Safari 3, only available as the WebKit until Leopard gets released). So even once you have it validating, practically nobody will be able to appreciated your fine work :( Lucien. -- Lucien Stals Multimedia/Web Developer Academic Development and Support Swinburne University of Technology PO Box 218 Hawthorn, 3122, Australia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephone: +61 3 9214 4474 office: AD223 On 10/07/2007 at 1:20 pm, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Not really, just chose the appropriate options (advanced...) when you try to validate a file. Yes I see, but how do you link a Valid CSS icon to an advanced search? Thanks, Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, printing, copying or use is strictly prohibited. The University does not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments are secure and there is also a risk that it may be corrupted in transmission. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening them. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us on +61 3 9214 8000 and delete it immediately from your system. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. Please consider the environment before printing this email. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Lucien Stals TEL;WORK:4474 ORG:;Academic Development and Support EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N:Stals;Lucien END:VCARD *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Client - Site Edits
Hi all, I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem. Most of my client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the client requires. Because the updates are very infrequent, I have not been charging very much for this ongoing support. However, I have a new client who wants to maintain her own site (one I designed for her). She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know her way around HTML or CSS. I am agonizing over how to pass the torch over to her. The site is not extremely complex, but is more than a little task for someone who does not design web sites. I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been implemented. I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. Thanks. Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
Kevin Ross wrote: I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been implemented. I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. Probably more appropriate for the WSG CMS list, but short answer is yes, a CMS would definitely address this issue. Other options include Adobe Contribute. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
In short yes it would probably be best... I had the same problem with a client and so I gave him the website in WordPress, so now I only do major style/ structure changes and he handles the content changes himself [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/2007 11:36:34 am I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Lucien Stals wrote: Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. (Does Firefox? I can only think of Safari 3, only available as the WebKit until Leopard gets released). So even once you have it validating, practically nobody will be able to appreciated your fine work :( Lucien. I don't think Firefox does. And if I recall correctly (call me on it if I am wrong) text-shadow was included in the CSS 2 specs, but it was dropped due to lack of support. Also, Dean, it is possible to link to a CSS validation with advanced options. Just copy and paste the entire URL out of the address bar when you validate it. For example: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ohlman.com%2Fstyle.csswarning=1profile=css3usermedium=all You can see that the profile option is equal to css3 in the above URL. HTH Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Re: Client - Site Edits
Hi all, My apologies. I was just re-reading my own posts to this site and had forgotten that I had already asked this question, at least in part. I would still appreciate knowing how others would handle this situation. Regards, On 7/9/07, Kevin Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem. Most of my client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the client requires. Because the updates are very infrequent, I have not been charging very much for this ongoing support. However, I have a new client who wants to maintain her own site (one I designed for her). She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know her way around HTML or CSS. I am agonizing over how to pass the torch over to her. The site is not extremely complex, but is more than a little task for someone who does not design web sites. I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been implemented. I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. Thanks. Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
Thanks guys... I'm going to see what's happening on the CMS List. Regards... On 7/9/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In short yes it would probably be best... I had the same problem with a client and so I gave him the website in WordPress, so now I only do major style/ structure changes and he handles the content changes himself [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/07/2007 11:36:34 am I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
I get my clients to install SeaMonkey which has an inbuilt editor FTP client and is really good for basic text edits. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ Cheers Helen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gollan Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2007 1:20 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits Kevin Ross wrote: I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been implemented. I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. Probably more appropriate for the WSG CMS list, but short answer is yes, a CMS would definitely address this issue. Other options include Adobe Contribute. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits
Kevin Ross wrote: Hi all, I am trying to find a solution to a nagging problem. Most of my client's sites are not very dynamic and I update them as the client requires. Because the updates are very infrequent, I have not been charging very much for this ongoing support. However, I have a new client who wants to maintain her own site (one I designed for her). She is pretty good on the computer, but doesn't really know her way around HTML or CSS. I am agonizing over how to pass the torch over to her. The site is not extremely complex, but is more than a little task for someone who does not design web sites. I am wondering for advice on this situation and I am also wondering how others handle ongoing updates after the initial design has been implemented. I am also wondering if a CMS system would, in any way, be a solution to a situation like this. Thanks. Be careful if you don't use a CMS system. I donated a web site for a local organization and it was a beauty...since I no longer had the time to devote to updating I turned it over to a so called 'web designer' in the community (at the recommendation of the executive director). Sadly, he has basically ruined my site because he has no idea what he is doing and has no concept of web standards--or style for that matter. It is a real shame that so many people charge for and design web sites that don't follow any sort of standards. Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:32 PM, Lucien Stals wrote: Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. Yes, well it really is a let down viewing a site in Safari or OmniWeb and then viewing it in IE or FF. I am finding quite a few clients impressed with the difference in the new Windows Safari and making the switch. Maybe Safari will become mainstream (especially with the success of iPhone ;) The more design can be put in the browser and removed from image files the better. On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Matthew Ohlman wrote: Just copy and paste the entire URL out of the address bar when you validate it. Thanks for the tip Matthew! Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
