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[WSG] why

2008-04-25 Thread kevin mcmonagle


Is this wrapper floating over the mast div in ie7 only?   ahhh.

http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup.html

http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/css/boxes.css



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RE: [WSG] IE 6 bugs

2008-04-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz

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> 
> Looking at my site putting with widths up in Firefox it doesn't look
> like its too wide.  However I did just add padding so I'm wondering if
> thats the issue.


Hi Michael,

It is because of your DIV.pie if you remove its width things should go back
to normal.
As Russ said, this is a typical IE6 issue. An easy way to find out if
something is too wide is to use "overflow:hidden" on the container. 
If that brings the float back into place then it means there is something
inside that is "pushing the envelop".


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Re: [WSG] IE 6 bugs

2008-04-25 Thread Michael Horowitz

Looking at my site putting with widths up in Firefox it doesn't look 
like its too wide.  However I did just add padding so I'm wondering if 
thats the issue. 

Thanks for letting me know where to look at least.   I'll be offline for 
Passover till sunday but will let you know how it turns out.



Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
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russ - maxdesign wrote:

So this is one of those famed IE 6 bugs that is hopefully going away
soon.  Two issue sidebar shows up on top and not on the side and some of
the fields have a yellow background (less important issue)



Without looking in detail, when a column drops in IE6 there are normally 2
common reasons.

1. The most common cause is setting a margin on one of the floated columns
that triggers a double margin float bug. In your case this does not seem to
be the issue.

2. The next common cause is to do with content that is too wide for the
parent container.

You have two columns (#colLeft or #colRight) inside a parent container
(#container). There is a possibility that some element inside one of the two
columns (#colLeft or #colRight) is wider than the column itself.

In most browsers this will not be an issue. The width of the columns
(#colLeft or #colRight) will be honoured  -regardless of the width of
content inside. 


However, IE6 will honour the width of content inside the columns (#colLeft
or #colRight) rather than the width assigned to the columns. This means that
the column may appear wider in IE than other browsers.

This has a spill-over effect...  If the two columns (#colLeft or #colRight)
have defined widths (240px and 530px), and they sit inside a parent
(#container) that also has a defined width (770px) then the two columns may
not fit if IE has determined that one of these two columns is wider. So, IE6
will allow the second column (#colRight) to drop below the first column
(#colLeft).

You can quickly test this by commenting out the content inside the columns
(I'd start with content inside #colRight where all the action is) and see if
the layout suddenly works again. If this happens, you will know the culprit
and can deal with it - by assigning a specific width or using one of the
more nasty work-arounds:
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/column-collapse/

The yellow background in form elements may be a case of " Mystical Yellow
Form Fields"
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/17.php

HTH
Russ





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Re: [WSG] IE 6 bugs

2008-04-25 Thread russ - maxdesign

> So this is one of those famed IE 6 bugs that is hopefully going away
> soon.  Two issue sidebar shows up on top and not on the side and some of
> the fields have a yellow background (less important issue)

Without looking in detail, when a column drops in IE6 there are normally 2
common reasons.

1. The most common cause is setting a margin on one of the floated columns
that triggers a double margin float bug. In your case this does not seem to
be the issue.

2. The next common cause is to do with content that is too wide for the
parent container.

You have two columns (#colLeft or #colRight) inside a parent container
(#container). There is a possibility that some element inside one of the two
columns (#colLeft or #colRight) is wider than the column itself.

In most browsers this will not be an issue. The width of the columns
(#colLeft or #colRight) will be honoured  -regardless of the width of
content inside. 

However, IE6 will honour the width of content inside the columns (#colLeft
or #colRight) rather than the width assigned to the columns. This means that
the column may appear wider in IE than other browsers.

This has a spill-over effect...  If the two columns (#colLeft or #colRight)
have defined widths (240px and 530px), and they sit inside a parent
(#container) that also has a defined width (770px) then the two columns may
not fit if IE has determined that one of these two columns is wider. So, IE6
will allow the second column (#colRight) to drop below the first column
(#colLeft).

You can quickly test this by commenting out the content inside the columns
(I'd start with content inside #colRight where all the action is) and see if
the layout suddenly works again. If this happens, you will know the culprit
and can deal with it - by assigning a specific width or using one of the
more nasty work-arounds:
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/column-collapse/

The yellow background in form elements may be a case of " Mystical Yellow
Form Fields"
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/17.php

HTH
Russ





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RE: [WSG] help with background color

2008-04-25 Thread Rick Faircloth

Chill, out... and watch the language...

Rick

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> 
> wtf!
> wrap name in some elemnts/ and give it needed bg
> 
> wtf!
> 
> Laert Jansen пишет:
> >
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I am looking for some help here. I want to apply a background to the
> > names of the "clients" on my website (www.laertjansen.com
> > )
> >
> > I did it to the text on the top ..there´s a black
> > background..and I want a blue bg on the client´s name but its
> > not working. How do I do this?
> >
> > I attached an image to show what I want to do
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [WSG] help with background color

2008-04-25 Thread Сергей Кириченко


wtf!
wrap name in some elemnts/ and give it needed bg

wtf!

Laert Jansen пишет:


Hello everyone!

I am looking for some help here. I want to apply a background to the 
names of the "clients" on my website (www.laertjansen.com 
)


I did it to the text on the top ..there´s a black 
background..and I want a blue bg on the client´s name but its 
not working. How do I do this?


I attached an image to show what I want to do

Thanks a lot!




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www.laertjansen.com 

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Re: [WSG] help with background color

2008-04-25 Thread Michael Horowitz


I'm thinking

client name here
Then set the background-color for .client in the css file.




Michael Horowitz
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kate wrote:

Hi Laert,
 
Something like at W3C?

http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-color
Kate
http://jungaling.com/katesplace/
http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/

- Original Message -
*From:* Laert Jansen 
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
*Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2008 7:51 PM
*Subject:* [WSG] help with background color


Hello everyone!

I am looking for some help here. I want to apply a background to
the names of the "clients" on my website (www.laertjansen.com
)

I did it to the text on the top ..there´s a black
background..and I want a blue bg on the client´s name but
its not working. How do I do this?

I attached an image to show what I want to do

Thanks a lot!




-- 
Laert Jansen

www.laertjansen.com 

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Re: [WSG] help with background color

2008-04-25 Thread kate

Hi Laert, 

Something like at W3C?
http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_background-color
Kate
http://jungaling.com/katesplace/
http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Laert Jansen 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:51 PM
  Subject: [WSG] help with background color

  Hello everyone!

  I am looking for some help here. I want to apply a background to the names of 
the "clients" on my website (www.laertjansen.com)

  I did it to the text on the top ..there´s a black background..and 
I want a blue bg on the client´s name but its not working. How do I do this?

  I attached an image to show what I want to do

  Thanks a lot!

  -- 
  Laert Jansen
  www.laertjansen.com

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Re: [WSG] premature to test/worry new site for IE8?

2008-04-25 Thread Michael Horowitz

You need to be worried if IE 8 isn't compliant with standards or 
standards changes that don't exist today are implemented in ie 8.


There really is no way to guarantee everything will run in a browser 
that currently doesn't exist. 


Michael Horowitz
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tee wrote:
I am about to start coding for a new site, and client asked me to make 
sure my code will work for IE8, meaning when IE 8 comes out, she 
doesn't need to pay me extra to fix any problem that may occur in IE 
8. Client is from a web media company, though I understand her 
concerns and that she has to answer to her client, but I just don't 
know how or if I should commit to such 'expectation'.


Last time with IE 7, there was no problem and none of the sites I 
coded for her break when  IE 7 came out. I think this version 
targeting thing really got people worry.


Say, I code my CSS with best practice just like I'd always do, and 
treat IE browsers with CC should it be needed. Do I need to worry 
anything with IE8? It didn't occur to me to worry anything at all 
until client was making this request.


Thanks!

tee


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[WSG] IE 6 bugs

2008-04-25 Thread Michael Horowitz

I have a site http://www.agilecreditreport.com whose homepage displays 
correctly in IE 7, Firefox and Opera and displays incorrectly in IE 6. 

So this is one of those famed IE 6 bugs that is hopefully going away 
soon.  Two issue sidebar shows up on top and not on the side and some of 
the fields have a yellow background (less important issue)


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank

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Re: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::

2008-04-25 Thread kate

Thats the site I said to take a look at. Looks like my mail did'nt get there.
Kate
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http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Matijs 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::


  The (imho) best way to do this is by using the Man in Blue's FooterStickAlt:

  http://www.themaninblue.com/writing/perspective/2005/08/29/


  On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Tim MacKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Amrinder,



I would recommend this solution; it was given to me from a member of this 
list a few months ago and worked great. 



http://dusan.fora.si/blog/how-to-move-that-footer-to-the-bottom



Best Regards,

Tim



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#wrapper {
  min-height:100%;
} is not enough
+
* html #wrapper {
  height:100%;
}
html, body{
  height:100%;
}
#footer {
  margin-top:-50px;/* margintop = -(this height)*/
}

2008/4/22, Kepler Gelotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> I have problem with the footer of my website: www.awayback.com it is not
staying at bottom of the page. Things are fine in case of low
> resolution i.e. 1024x768 but in high resolution screens (1200x1024) 
footer is hanging mid way and not at bottom of the page.



Hi Amrider,

I would suggest adding another  around 
...  with a min-height of 100%:

div#wrapper {
min-height: 100%;
}

This should keep the footer at the bottom of the page on short pages.

Best regards,

Kepler Gelotte
Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
www.neighborwebmaster.com
phone/fax: (732) 302-0904





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