RE: [WSG] PDFs and other non-html files opening in a new browser window

2009-02-06 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel
Hi Carolyn

 

I'm with Jakob on this one - as far as opening new windows is concerned
anyway.  I used to think it was unnecessary, but while user testing
something else, noticed that when PDFs opened without a new browser window,
many users would then close the document and be annoyed that the browser had
closed. Do make sure that you indicate the file size and type, so that
they're not surprised by the file type and have some warning of how long
it's likely to take.

 

I don't agree with the idea of forcing them to save the file to disk before
opening it - that's not based on user testing, just the fact that it would
really p* me off! 

 

 

Elizabeth Spiegel

Web editing



0409 986 158

GPO Box 729, Hobart TAS 7001

www.spiegelweb.com.au

 

 

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Diaz
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 8:31 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] PDFs and other non-html files opening in a new browser window

 

My Web team and I are discussing whether or not we should open links to PDFs
and other non-html pages in a new window. Someone cited Jakob Nielsen's
argument at http://www.useit.com/alertbox/open_new_windows.html as the
reason we should open in a new window. (We all work on government Web sites
and they are about to release a new set of linking standards.)

I know this is an old school type question, but we are very divided about
this. The people on our usability team are with Nielsen, but others (like
me) are not so sure. Isn't accessibility to new windows a problem as it
changes the focus? What do you think?

Carolyn

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Re: [WSG] Starting with HTML and CSS

2009-02-06 Thread Fred Ballard
What an amazing resource! Thank you.

Fred

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Linda Mitchell
lindamitch...@iinet.net.auwrote:

 This is a great resource that I am sending my students to

 http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/



 Linda

 -Original Message-
 From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
 Behalf Of Katrina
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 6:33 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Starting with HTML and CSS

 Gday WSGers!

 I am lucky enough to be a tutor for a web course at the local uni, and I
  love to point students towards

 Starting with HTML + CSS
 http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/011/firstcss

 However, it uses absolute positioning. I would like to use a *huge* favour.
 Anyone want to write a simple blog post on how to take the HTML file
 already
 present in the link and convert it a 2-column design with a footer (most
 likely using floats OR even display:table!!))

 That'd be excellent :)
 Sort of a Starting with HTML + CSS the sequel :)

 Many many thanks

 Kat



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Re: [WSG] Starting with HTML and CSS

2009-02-06 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Hehe, I'm using Opera for over a year now and I didn't know they have
such a good knowledge section on their website.

Regards,

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[WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Kristine Cummins
Hi all:

I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html

 

--Kristine



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Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Steve Wilkison
It's something in your CSS. If you disable the CSS the links work  
fine. Not sure what code is causing it, but I'll try to look further.


Steve Wilkison
Digital Vision Media
www.digitalvisionmedia.com



On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Kristine Cummins wrote:


Hi all:

I’m having a strange link issue where three links in the content  
area are not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned  
with a class. Either I’m having a brain fart, or something strange  
is going on. It’s probably a brain fart at this point. Any help  
appreciated.


Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html

--Kristine




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Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Stuart Foulstone

Mmm.. something strange happening with line spacing, cursor positioning or
something in this column.

If you try and block (as in block and paste) a piece of text you
actually have to move the cursor along the line above. Weird???

This could mean that you can never actually position the cursor over the
link to activate it.


On Fri, February 6, 2009 11:53 pm, Kristine Cummins wrote:
 Hi all:

 I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
 not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
 Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
 probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

 Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html



 --Kristine



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Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Kristine Cummins wrote:


Hi all:

I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html


Remove display: inline; from:

/* off white */
p {
background-color: inherit;
color: #f9f5ec;
display: inline;
font: normal .9em/1.8em century gothic, arial, verdana;
overflow: hidden;
padding-top: 33px;
}


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Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Stuart Foulstone

Another clue...  If you position the text cursor (as opposed to the mouse
cursor) on the text just before a link... then use the right-arrow key to
move this cursor over the link... then the link works as it should.

On Fri, February 6, 2009 11:53 pm, Kristine Cummins wrote:
 Hi all:

 I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
 not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
 Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
 probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

 Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html



 --Kristine



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RE: SOLVED [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Kristine Cummins
Chris - bingo - you got it it's the display:inline in the P tag. 

-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:30 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Link issue

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Kristine Cummins wrote:

 Hi all:

 I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
 not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
 Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
 probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

 Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html

 Remove display: inline; from:

/* off white */
p {
background-color: inherit;
color: #f9f5ec;
display: inline;
font: normal .9em/1.8em century gothic, arial, verdana;
overflow: hidden;
padding-top: 33px;
}


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Author:
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Re: [WSG] Link issue

2009-02-06 Thread Mustafa Quilon
2009/2/7 Kristine Cummins des...@kristinecummins.com:
 Hi all:

 I'm having a strange link issue where three links in the content area are
 not linking and the code is valid. Each link is assigned with a class.
 Either I'm having a brain fart, or something strange is going on. It's
 probably a brain fart at this point. Any help appreciated.

 Page with link issue: http://www.richardvonsaal.com/about.html



 --Kristine

Hi,

Make the following changes:

p {
background-color: inherit;
color: #f9f5ec;
display: inline; /* Remove this */
font: normal .9em/1.8em century gothic, arial, verdana;
overflow: hidden;
padding-top: 33px; /* Remove this / tweak */
}

or alternatively you could just do:

a.type1:link {
color:#F9F5EC;
margin:0;
padding:0;
position:relative; /* Add This */
text-decoration:underline;
}

However, the latter is a fix and the former is how it should be done.

Works in FF3/Win.


-
Mustafa Quilon


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