[WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Naveen Bhaskar
Hi,

I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook pro. how 
can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers available for mac? 
Also pls let me know what are the softwares available for a UI developer for 
Mac.

thanks a ton in advance..

 


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Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread James Ducker
 Is there any IE installers available for mac?
No. The easiest solution is to install Windows XP onto a virtual machine
(VMWare Fusion, Sun xVM VirtualBox, or Parallels).

I've used VMWare Fusion, and it's quite nice, but Sun xVM VirtualBox is also
very nice, and has the added bonus of being free.

Helpful links:
http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/index.jsp
http://www.parallels.com/


- James


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Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Maurivan Luiz

Hi Naveen;

I use parallels or virtualbox (opensource / www.virtualbox.org) for  
emulate windows system in my Macbook :]


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On Mar 5, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Naveen Bhaskar wrote:


Hi,

I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook  
pro. how can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers  
available for mac?
Also pls let me know what are the softwares available for a UI  
developer for Mac.


thanks a ton in advance..



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Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Morgan-May
Try ies4osx. I haven't, but have heard it works:
http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/

As for software, I'm partial to Dreamweaver. And Contribute. And Flex Builder. 
:) But I've also heard good things about Aptana, and I've been happy with 
TextWrangler, which did all I used BBEdit for, free.

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I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook pro. how 
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Also pls let me know what are the softwares available for a UI developer for 
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thanks a ton in advance..


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Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Russ Weakley
Hi Naveen,

Here are some resources to try...

Testing

Try Parallels (though there are others out there apparently equal or
better?). This allows you to install multiple versions of Windows ­ which
means you can test IE6/7/8 in different versions.
http://www.parallels.com/

HTML/CSS Editors

BBEdit - http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/
Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/
CSS Edit - http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit/
skEdit - http://www.skti.org/skedit/
TextMate - http://macromates.com/

FTP

CyberDuck - http://cyberduck.ch/
Fetch - http://fetchsoftworks.com/
Transmit - http://www.panic.com/transmit/

Browsers

Camino - http://caminobrowser.org/
Demeter - http://www.hurrikenux.com/Demeter/
Firefox- http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Flock - http://www.flock.com/
Icab - http://www.icab.de/dl.php
Lynxlet - http://habilis.net/lynxlet/
Netscape - http://browser.netscape.com/
OmniWeb - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/
Opera - http://www.opera.com/
Safari - http://www.apple.com/safari/
SeaMonkey - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
Shiira - http://shiira.jp/en/
Sunrise - http://habilis.net/lynxlet/

Good luck!
Russ

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Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Wiles

Hi,

I use VM ware fusion to run windows XP and then I use a tool called  
IETester from http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
I find it really useful as it allows you test in IE5.5, 6, 7 and 8,  
its free. It's still a work in progress but I use it all the time.


On the mac I really like Coda from panic software an CSSEdit from  
macRabbit.
Also if you don't have it look at setting up a code repository, Coda  
works with Subversion allowing checkout and in from within the app.


I moved to the mac a year ago and don't regret it at all, with  
virtualisation you get the best of both worlds.


have fun

Steve

On 5 Mar 2009, at 18:32, Naveen Bhaskar wrote:


Hi,

I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook  
pro. how can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers  
available for mac?
Also pls let me know what are the softwares available for a UI  
developer for Mac.


thanks a ton in advance..



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Naveen Bhaskar
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Bangalore

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[WSG] Code management advice needed

2009-03-05 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all,

this might be slightly off topic and I'm glad for any redirects.

We're managing our source code in a version control system called SVN.
This works as long as frontend carve and backend integration are linear.

Sometimes however we need to change code that's old from a frontend
perspective, because the frontend has already implemented new changes.
We struggle with how to properly implement a workflow in this case,
because we would need new versions of the old code while still working
on changes of the current new code.

I have posted a message on svnforum.org, but received no reply.

If you know SVN well or if you have any links, groups etc. to turn to
I'd be very thankful. You can reply off-list if necessary.

Thanks,
Jens 

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RE: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

2009-03-05 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi,

I'd just like to add one to the FTP list - FireFTP firefox plugin. I was
using Cyberduck on my Powerbook and found it a bit clumsy, FireFTP works
right in firefox and works just as well as FileZilla.

Best,
Tim MacKay

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Subject: Re: [WSG] macpro and softwares..

Hi Naveen,

Here are some resources to try...

Testing

Try Parallels (though there are others out there apparently equal or
better?). This allows you to install multiple versions of Windows - which
means you can test IE6/7/8 in different versions.
http://www.parallels.com/

HTML/CSS Editors

BBEdit - http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/
Coda - http://www.panic.com/coda/
CSS Edit - http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit/
skEdit - http://www.skti.org/skedit/
TextMate - http://macromates.com/

FTP

CyberDuck - http://cyberduck.ch/
Fetch - http://fetchsoftworks.com/
Transmit - http://www.panic.com/transmit/

Browsers

Camino - http://caminobrowser.org/
Demeter - http://www.hurrikenux.com/Demeter/
Firefox- http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Flock - http://www.flock.com/
Icab - http://www.icab.de/dl.php
Lynxlet - http://habilis.net/lynxlet/
Netscape - http://browser.netscape.com/
OmniWeb - http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/
Opera - http://www.opera.com/
Safari - http://www.apple.com/safari/
SeaMonkey - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
Shiira - http://shiira.jp/en/
Sunrise - http://habilis.net/lynxlet/

Good luck!
Russ

 I used to work in a windows system and now I am working in a macbook pro.
how
 can I test my webpages for IE. Is there any IE installers available for
mac?
 Also pls let me know what are the softwares available for a UI developer
for
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Re: [WSG] Code management advice needed

2009-03-05 Thread Robert Turner

Hi Jens,

You need to branch the codebase. A typical SVN repository is setup as:

repos/trunk
repos/tags
repos/branches

Most people will checkout repos/trunk and just work off that. What you 
need to do is copy the trunk (svn cp/copy repos/trunk 
repos/branches/branch-version). Then keep two checkouts: 
repos/trunk (current versoin) and repos/branches/branch-version 
(old version).


It is also advisable to 'tag' each release version by svn cp'ing it to 
the tags directory.


Thanks,
Rob


Jens-Uwe Korff wrote:

Hi all,

this might be slightly off topic and I'm glad for any redirects.

We're managing our source code in a version control system called SVN.
This works as long as frontend carve and backend integration are linear.

Sometimes however we need to change code that's old from a frontend
perspective, because the frontend has already implemented new changes.
We struggle with how to properly implement a workflow in this case,
because we would need new versions of the old code while still working
on changes of the current new code.

I have posted a message on svnforum.org, but received no reply.

If you know SVN well or if you have any links, groups etc. to turn to
I'd be very thankful. You can reply off-list if necessary.

Thanks,
Jens 


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[WSG] Floating a sub-list level with it's parent list

2009-03-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi guys,

I'm in a bit of a bind here. I have a nested list that I have no control
over - it's coming out of the CMS with this hierarchy and I can't change
that. Here is an example of the unstyled list:

- Main Navigation
--- Page 1
--- Page 2
--- Page 3
--- Subscriber Modules
- Module 1
- Module 2
- Module 3
- Module 4

So as you can see, Subscriber Modules sits at the same level as the pages
and has its own sub-list of modules.

The trouble comes when I get asked to have the two lists (pages and
subscriber modules) displaying side-by-side. I've managed to give the two
top level li's (Main Navigation and Subscriber Modules) different
classes, so I can treat them differently from standard list items, but
making them line up beside each other is proving problematic.

First I tried:
.mainNav {
  float: left;
}
.subMod {
  float: right;
}

The trouble with this is that the .subMod list is only moved off to the
right from where it was - it still sits below all the pages. The only way to
get it level with the top of the .mainNav list would be to move it a set
amount upwards, and since there can be a variable number of pages that is
just not practical.

So then I tried:

.mainNav {
  position: relative;
}
.subMod {
  position: absolute;
  top: 0;
  right: 0;
}

This works fine to get them lining up correctly, but since there are more
subscriber modules than pages the bottom of the list doesn't appear in the
correct place. So I went searching for information on clearing absolutely
positioned elements. I found this page (
http://www.shauninman.com/archive/2006/05/22/clearance_position_inline_absolute)
which looked promising, but it requires setting the position of the tallest
element to relative and in this case that is the one that needs to be
absolute.

Can anyone suggest a way that I can bring these two lists into the format
I've been requested to?

Cheers,

Seona.


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Re: [WSG] Floating a sub-list level with it's parent list

2009-03-05 Thread Robert Turner

Hi Seona,

Why not make the entire nav element (mainNav) positioned absolute? I'd 
probably use a div to contain the parent ul (if you are not already 
doing this). I'd start with something like:


.mainNav {
   /* nav at top right of screen */
   position: absolute;
   top: 0px;
   right: 0px;
}

The sub modules would then be rendered inside the parent nav. The sub 
modules can also have a left margin to control indent:


.subMod {
   margin-left: Xpx; /* or use Xem to scale with screen 
resolutions/font sizes */

}

I hope this is the info you are after?

=] Rob


Seona Bellamy wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm in a bit of a bind here. I have a nested list that I have no 
control over - it's coming out of the CMS with this hierarchy and I 
can't change that. Here is an example of the unstyled list:


- Main Navigation
--- Page 1
--- Page 2
--- Page 3
--- Subscriber Modules
- Module 1
- Module 2
- Module 3
- Module 4

So as you can see, Subscriber Modules sits at the same level as the 
pages and has its own sub-list of modules.


The trouble comes when I get asked to have the two lists (pages and 
subscriber modules) displaying side-by-side. I've managed to give the 
two top level li's (Main Navigation and Subscriber Modules) 
different classes, so I can treat them differently from standard list 
items, but making them line up beside each other is proving problematic.


First I tried:
.mainNav {
  float: left;
}
.subMod {
  float: right;
}

The trouble with this is that the .subMod list is only moved off to 
the right from where it was - it still sits below all the pages. The 
only way to get it level with the top of the .mainNav list would be to 
move it a set amount upwards, and since there can be a variable number 
of pages that is just not practical.


So then I tried:

.mainNav {
  position: relative;
}
.subMod {
  position: absolute;
  top: 0;
  right: 0;
}

This works fine to get them lining up correctly, but since there are 
more subscriber modules than pages the bottom of the list doesn't 
appear in the correct place. So I went searching for information on 
clearing absolutely positioned elements. I found this page 
(http://www.shauninman.com/archive/2006/05/22/clearance_position_inline_absolute) 
which looked promising, but it requires setting the position of the 
tallest element to relative and in this case that is the one that 
needs to be absolute.


Can anyone suggest a way that I can bring these two lists into the 
format I've been requested to?


Cheers,

Seona.
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Re: [WSG] Floating a sub-list level with it's parent list

2009-03-05 Thread Robert Turner
The other options is to use a two column layout with float: left and 
float: right, but these need to have set widths. eg.


.left-nav {
   float: left;
   width: 19%; /* or Xpx */
}

.content {
   float: right;
   width: 80%; /* or Xpx */
}

We use this approach on our site: http://flexa.com.au



Robert Turner wrote:

Hi Seona,

Why not make the entire nav element (mainNav) positioned absolute? I'd 
probably use a div to contain the parent ul (if you are not 
already doing this). I'd start with something like:


.mainNav {
/* nav at top right of screen */
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
right: 0px;
}

The sub modules would then be rendered inside the parent nav. The sub 
modules can also have a left margin to control indent:


.subMod {
margin-left: Xpx; /* or use Xem to scale with screen 
resolutions/font sizes */

}

I hope this is the info you are after?

=] Rob


Seona Bellamy wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm in a bit of a bind here. I have a nested list that I have no 
control over - it's coming out of the CMS with this hierarchy and I 
can't change that. Here is an example of the unstyled list:


- Main Navigation
--- Page 1
--- Page 2
--- Page 3
--- Subscriber Modules
- Module 1
- Module 2
- Module 3
- Module 4

So as you can see, Subscriber Modules sits at the same level as the 
pages and has its own sub-list of modules.


The trouble comes when I get asked to have the two lists (pages and 
subscriber modules) displaying side-by-side. I've managed to give the 
two top level li's (Main Navigation and Subscriber Modules) 
different classes, so I can treat them differently from standard list 
items, but making them line up beside each other is proving problematic.


First I tried:
.mainNav {
  float: left;
}
.subMod {
  float: right;
}

The trouble with this is that the .subMod list is only moved off to 
the right from where it was - it still sits below all the pages. The 
only way to get it level with the top of the .mainNav list would be 
to move it a set amount upwards, and since there can be a variable 
number of pages that is just not practical.


So then I tried:

.mainNav {
  position: relative;
}
.subMod {
  position: absolute;
  top: 0;
  right: 0;
}

This works fine to get them lining up correctly, but since there are 
more subscriber modules than pages the bottom of the list doesn't 
appear in the correct place. So I went searching for information on 
clearing absolutely positioned elements. I found this page 
(http://www.shauninman.com/archive/2006/05/22/clearance_position_inline_absolute) 
which looked promising, but it requires setting the position of the 
tallest element to relative and in this case that is the one that 
needs to be absolute.


Can anyone suggest a way that I can bring these two lists into the 
format I've been requested to?


Cheers,

Seona.
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[WSG] 3-Col Issue Javascript Heavy site

2009-03-05 Thread Kristine Cummins
Hi All:

 

I am developing a community calendar that is ran by javascripts that pulls
from database. It has a 3-col layout. I'm aware that javascript-based site
is not the most accessible but was the economical option for our
non-profit. I have two questions:

 

1)In Safari, the center col is not filling the entire center like it
should on both PC and Mac but all other browsers OK. The floating left and
right sidebars have margins sent while the center col sits relative in the
middle.



2)Since this is a primarily javascript-ran website, can you give me
tips, on how to make it more accessible? I'm not going to do extreme
measures here, but maybe will implement some basics. 

 

Site: http://www.nvarts.org/demo/index.shtml

CSS: http://www.nvarts.org/demo/styles.css

 

 

Thanks for your time!
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Re: [WSG] 3-Col Issue Javascript Heavy site

2009-03-05 Thread Rob D
Have you tried giving the center col (#content) a percent width like -
width:70%;
haven't tried it - just a thought

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 wrote:

  Hi All:



 I am developing a community calendar that is ran by javascripts that pulls
 from database. It has a 3-col layout. I’m aware that javascript-based site
 is not the most “accessible” but was the economical option for our
 non-profit. I have two questions:



 1)In Safari, the center col is not filling the entire center like it
 should on both PC and Mac but all other browsers OK. The floating left and
 right sidebars have margins sent while the center col sits relative in the
 middle.

  2)Since this is a primarily javascript-ran website, can you give me
 tips, on how to make it more accessible? I’m not going to do extreme
 measures here, but maybe will implement some basics.



 Site: http://www.nvarts.org/demo/index.shtml

 CSS: http://www.nvarts.org/demo/styles.css





 Thanks for your time!
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[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

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RE: [WSG] 3-Col Issue Javascript Heavy site

2009-03-05 Thread Ash Aziz
 
In you stylesheet(styles.css) do the following change. I've tested it and its 
working for me--

#
#content {
border: 1px dotted gray;
background-color: transparent;
overflow: hidden;
padding-bottom: 25px;
position: relative;
margin-right: 250px;
margin-left: 250px;
}

REPLACE WITH

#content {
border: 1px dotted gray;
background-color: transparent;
overflow: hidden;
padding-bottom: 25px;
position: relative;
margin-right: 0px;
margin-left: 0px;
}


#
Cheers
Ash
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:48:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [WSG] 3-Col Issue  Javascript Heavy site
From: rob.dea...@gmail.com
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Have you tried giving the center col (#content) a percent width like - 
width:70%;
haven't tried it - just a thought

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Kristine Cummins des...@kristinecummins.com 
wrote:














Hi
All:


 


I
am developing a community calendar that is ran by javascripts that pulls from
database. It has a 3-col layout. I’m aware that javascript-based site is
not the most “accessible” but was the economical option for our
non-profit. I have two questions:


 


1)   
In Safari, the center col is not filling the entire center
like it should on both PC and Mac but all other browsers OK. The floating left
and right sidebars have margins sent while the center col sits relative in the
middle.





2)   
Since this is a primarily javascript-ran website, can you give
me tips, on how to make it more accessible? I’m not going to do extreme
measures here, but maybe will implement some basics. 

 


Site:
http://www.nvarts.org/demo/index.shtml


CSS:
http://www.nvarts.org/demo/styles.css


 


 


Thanks
for your time!

Kristine









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Re: [WSG] Code management advice needed

2009-03-05 Thread Ben Rowe




Hi
Jens,

In addition to what Rob wrote, check out the following resources.

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch05s04.html
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch04.html

Ben
fatpublisher.com.au

On 6/03/2009 9:13 AM, Robert Turner wrote:

  
  
Hi Jens,
  
You need to branch the codebase. A typical SVN repository is setup as:
  
repos/trunk
repos/tags
repos/branches
  
Most people will checkout repos/trunk and just work off that.
What you need to do is copy the trunk (svn cp/copy repos/trunk
repos/branches/branch-version). Then keep two
checkouts: repos/trunk (current versoin) and
repos/branches/branch-version (old version).
  
It is also advisable to 'tag' each release version by svn cp'ing it to
the tags directory.
  
Thanks,
Rob
  
  
Jens-Uwe Korff wrote:
  
Hi all,

this might be slightly off topic and I'm glad for any redirects.

We're managing our source code in a version control system called SVN.
This works as long as frontend carve and backend integration are linear.

Sometimes however we need to change code that's "old" from a frontend
perspective, because the frontend has already implemented new changes.
We struggle with how to properly implement a workflow in this case,
because we would need new versions of the old code while still working
on changes of the current "new" code.

I have posted a message on svnforum.org, but received no reply.

If you know SVN well or if you have any links, groups etc. to turn to
I'd be very thankful. You can reply off-list if necessary.

Thanks,
Jens 

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