Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5
- Original Message - From: Keryx Web webmas...@keryx.se To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5 2010-01-05 13:59, designer skrev: I am getting a bit bogged down with this new stuff! I used figure in this case: figure is still being discussed and no real decision has benn made. The proposal to use dt/dd in fugure and details seem to have been shot down and new elements for captioning these are being discussed. Then again, details and or figure might be totally scrapped. There are other parts of HTML5 that have reached a higher level of maturity. One should probably start using them. BTW. the validator does not change with every spec change. For issues like this the best resource to consult is probably HTML5 doctor or the WHAT WG help list. (The help list, not the main discussion list.) *** Hi Lars, Yes, I am starting to realise that you are right. So many of the features of html5 have little or no browser support and the syntax changes often. The standard few 'safe' elements seem to be section header footer article nav and aside In my view these don't yet add anything worthwhile to my pages, except perhaps better code readability, and this is/can be countered by excessive verbosity. My own (somewhat clumsy) efforts can be seen at: www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - here, (on the portfolio page) I have used figure with a floated image to present data as we used to do with tables, but since I have used the dt and dd approach, it may be consigned to the bin anytime soon. html5 all seems a bit of a mess, at least at this time. Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] font names problem in internet explorer
Hi Marvin,
I don't have any experience with screen-readers, but here is a suggestion.
It seems the only place you have defined a font is on body.
Maybe it just reads out the explicit attributes you give the header, as in
center.
Try defining the same font-family on the header, as well, to see if it
works then.
If that does not work, maybe it only reads out the header font-family if
it differs from the rest. Try defining a different font-family for the
headers.
Just an idea,
Stuart
On Sun, January 17, 2010 4:14 am, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
hi.
well tried fixing the error in the css.
but still not reading the font names.
just says centered.
and it is not a internet explorer problem or a jaws problem.
was able to go to a couple of sites.
use the insert f command in jaws which reads the font on the selected
element.
so wonder if my font names are all screwed or not right.
how to fix this.
please help me out.
when i was internet explorer 7, would read the font names.
but in internet explorer 8.
does not read it.
so some is screwing my code.
please help.
maybe got the font names not correctly coded.
will paste my style sheet below.
so it is some thing with my style sheet.
or maybe in the wrong place.
will copy and paste the code of my main page.
so you can see the location of where my style sheet is.
Marvin.
p.first:first-letter
{
text-transform:capitalize;
font-style: italic;
}
body
{
font: 100%/1.4 Helvetica Neue, Arial, sans-serif;
background: #fff;
}
.left { float: left; padding: 0 8px 8px 0; }
.clear {clear: left; }
h1
{
text-align: center;
}
h2
{
text-align: center;
}
a:link
{
color: #008000;
}
a:visited
{
color: #22bb22;
}
div#links a span
{
display: none;
}
div#links a:hover span
{
display: block;
position: absolute;
top: 350px;
left: 5px;
width: 100px;
text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover
{
background-color: #006400;
color: #FF;
}
a:active
{
color: #FF;
text-decoration: none;
}
#banner
{
text-align: center;
}
#content
{
margin-left: 10px;
margin-right:10px;
voice-family: \}\;
voice-family: inherit;
margin-left: 131px;
margin-right:131px;
}
body #content {
margin-left: 10px;
margin-right:10px;
}
#nav
{
position: absolute;
left: 10px;
top: 100px;
width: 100px;
text-align: center;
}
#wrapper { width: 960px; background-color: #fff; margin: 10px auto 0
auto;}
#banner_new { text-align: center; }
#navigation { margin: 10px; overflow: hidden;}
#navigation li { display:block; float:left; }
#navigation li a { display: block; float: left; background-image:
url('../../Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/images/nav_banana.png');
background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: left;
background-attachment: scroll; padding-left: 32px;
padding-right: 16px; padding-top: 0; padding-bottom: 20px;
background-position: top }
#navigation li a { display:block; float:left; background: transparent;
padding: 0 16px 20px 0;}
#main_content { margin: 10px;}
.specials { float: left; width: 470px; height: 250px; }
.specials img {float: left; padding: 10px;}
#footer { margin: 10px; overflow: hidden; }
#footer li { display:block; float:left; }
#footer li a { display: block; float: left; background-image:
url('../../Local%20Settings/Temporary%20Internet%20Files/Content.IE5/images/nav_banana.png');
background-repeat: no-repeat; background-color: left;
background-attachment: scroll; padding-left: 32px;
padding-right: 16px; padding-top: 0; padding-bottom: 20px;
background-position: top }
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 /
titleJoe's Fruit and Vegetable Shop/title
link href=../styles/joe_style.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
/head
body
div id=wrapper
div id=banner_new
p a name=Top/a /p
h1Joe's Fruit and Vegetable Shop/h1
br
br
img src=../images/fruit.jpg alt=Fruit / /div
br
br
div id=navigation
br
br
ul
lia href=index.htmlHome/a/li
lia href=produce.htmlAll Produce/a/li
lia href=recipes.htmlRecipes/a/li
lia href=staff.htmlStaff/a/li
lia href=history.htmlHistory/a/li
lia href=search.htmlSearch/a/li
lia href=links.htmlFruit And Vegetable Links/a/li
lia href=vegetable.htmlFruit And Vegetable Recipes/a/li
lia href=copyright.htmlCopyright/a/li
lia href=credits.htmlCredits/a/li
br
br
/ul
div style=clear:both;/div
/div
div id=main_content
h2Today's Specials/h2
pPhone 1800-Joe-Fruit/p
hr /
div class=specials img src=../images/mango.jpg alt=Mango /
Re: [WSG] Styling IE8 web slices
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Hi all, I find that when implementing a web slice its background displays a sprite we use. All efforts so far to style the background to plain white failed (even with inline styles as recommended by MS [1]). Has anyone successfully styled web slices that do not have a separate HTML source? What does a proprietary technique have to do with web standards? Does it even work with anything other than IE8? [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc848871%28VS.85%29.aspx -- Chris F.A. Johnson http://cfajohnson.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Styling IE8 web slices
What does a proprietary technique have to do with web standards? Marketing name: IE8 Web Slices Technology: hSlice -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:22 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling IE8 web slices On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: Hi all, I find that when implementing a web slice its background displays a sprite we use. All efforts so far to style the background to plain white failed (even with inline styles as recommended by MS [1]). Has anyone successfully styled web slices that do not have a separate HTML source? What does a proprietary technique have to do with web standards? Does it even work with anything other than IE8? [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc848871%28VS.85%29.aspx -- Chris F.A. Johnson http://cfajohnson.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] internet explorer font names
hi. well here's the site. how ot fix this. still not reading the names in internet explorer 8 marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] site url
hi. sorry forgot to put this url in: http://www.raulferrer.com/joe/html/ cheers Marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] site url
On 2010/01/18 11:44 (GMT+1100) Marvin Hunkin composed: http://www.raulferrer.com/joe/html/ Looks like you forgot to validate again: http://tinyurl.com/ya7p6sy http://tinyurl.com/ydoat7q -- Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] site url
Felix Miata wrote: On 2010/01/18 11:44 (GMT+1100) Marvin Hunkin composed: http://www.raulferrer.com/joe/html/ Looks like you forgot to validate again: http://tinyurl.com/ya7p6sy http://tinyurl.com/ydoat7q Indeed. So validate the CSS, and markup. You stand tall, and look good. Don't get? Write me, anytime. ~d -- desktop http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ mobile http://chelseacreekstudio.mobi/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
