Re: [WSG] ive given up on css

2007-05-16 Thread Bruce Gilbert

On 5/16/07, Ben Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Here's a link to put a smile on your face anyway, old school web design
 studio at it's best:
 http://www.wizwebz.co.uk ... (I kinda like it for some inexplicable
reason)


last updated their home page in 2000. That is old school!


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Re: [WSG] my rounded corner box isn't displaying correctly in IE

2005-10-31 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Thanks for the tip,

I tried adding this for IE in the CSS:

* html #box{/*used for internet explorer*/

 float:right;

 
 width:25em;

 background-color:#789;

 margin:0;

 padding:0;

 
 
 }
but I still get the added stuff for my box:

http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Accessibility.php

anything else I can, or should try?
On 10/30/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Classic box model problem.Don't apply padding or margins (unless zero)to block level elements width a set width.
Use an additional div for padding and margins.Joe Taylorhttp://sitesbyjoe.com


[WSG] my rounded corner box isn't displaying correctly in IE

2005-10-30 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have a rounded corner box I am using with four images and it
displays fine in Mozilla...

http://www.inspired-evolution.com/About_Me.php

in IE, however, the right side of the box is flat. Can anyone offer
some suggestions in getting this to look as intended in IE?

the CSS is at :

http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css

thanks much in advance!
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[WSG] hidden link to webstandards page 4 older browsers - how does it work

2005-10-26 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Attn: Paul Noone 

Hey Paul (or others),

I noticed from the code sourceon the link you posted to have me look at your layout (
http://d81314.i50.quadrahosting.com.au/), that you have some text for a link to the standards page.

this:
div class=hide pThis site will look much better in a browser that supports a href="" href="http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/">http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/
 title=Download a browser that complies with Web standards.web standards/a, but it is accessible to any browser or Internet device./p
/div
with display:none in your CSS for the hide class.

I like this idea and wanted to implement somthing similar, but was wondering what was going on here since the text is beinghidden. Does this only show up for older browsers (eg: Netscape 4.0), and if so how is that being implemented?


This would be great for me and perhaps others to learn about.

thanks!!-- ::Bruce G:: 
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[WSG] Trouble getting 3rd column to extend to footer

2005-10-25 Thread Bruce Gilbert
hello all,on a site I am working on (http://www.ncpersonalinjurylaw.com/php/Adams.php), my third column (the grey one) isn't extending down to the footer on its own. The third column is being called 'right_col' and the CSS specific to that column is:
#right_col {/*creates right column on page*/width:155px; padding:0 ;margin:0;background-color:#ccc;color:inherit;float:right;}* html div#right_col {/*creates right column on page, only IE sees this*/
width:150px; padding:0 ;margin:0;background-color:#ccc;color:inherit;float:right;}I know that that in itself doesn't tell you much so the full CSS can be located at:
http://www.ncpersonalinjurylaw.com/php/CSS/Global.cssI do want to point out that I was able to achieve equal columns using JS (the PVII equal columns technique), but I would prefer to get this working w/o JS. Also with the equal columns, things got messed up when I resized the text.
I have tried adding height :100% to the third columns div without success.Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciative.-- ::Bruce:: 


[WSG] a better tsolution than oveflow:auto for Mozilla?

2005-09-27 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello,on a new site I am working on (http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/) inMozilla/FF. you get the horizontal and vertical scroll bars on some of the pagesand I know
the reason why. It is because I am overflow:auto on my content div. Iadded this after googling and finding this was a float clearingsolver.the content div has the following CSS:div#text_area{/*hiding from IE*/
background:url(bg_text_area.jpg) repeat-y;color:#333;text-align:left;border:0;padding-top:2em;margin:0;height:100%;overflow:auto;}If I don't have the overflow:auto in FF/moz the div doesn't extend
all the way to the footer like I want (the div in question is #text_area). Any suugestions on solving thisproblem in Mozilla, FF?

let me know if I need to provide additional information...full CSS:http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/main.css
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Re: [WSG] a better tsolution than oveflow:auto for Mozilla?

2005-09-27 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Thanks Ted,

not sure I am understanding you correctly, though. Say you have a parent div you would to extend the length of your content, and within that parent div you have a div at the top that you want to not float, but fit the width of the parent, and below the top child div, you have two more twin dis, one floated left, and one right, each taking up about 50% or half of the parent div. What would be the solution for this? I don't think floating the parent would work in this case, unless I am misunderstanding you.

On 9/27/05, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Bruce
Try floating the content div instead. I've often found this to be the easiest fix. A floated parent will contain its floated children.


I've been writing a document for my fellow programmers about nested lists and if write parent/child one more time I think I'm going to change my name to Dr. Seuss.


Ted






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On Behalf Of Bruce GilbertSent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:50 AMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] a better tsolution than oveflow:auto for Mozilla?


Hello,on a new site I am working on (
http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/) inMozilla/FF. you get the horizontal and vertical scroll bars on some of the pagesand I know the reason why. It is because I am overflow:auto on my content div. Iadded this after googling and finding this was a float clearing
solver.the content div has the following CSS:div#text_area{/*hiding from IE*/ background:url(bg_text_area.jpg) repeat-y;color:#333;text-align:left;border:0;padding-top:2em;margin:0;
height:100%;overflow:auto;}If I don't have the overflow:auto in FF/moz the div doesn't extend all the way to the footer like I want (the div in question is #text_area). Any suugestions on solving this
problem in Mozilla, FF?



let me know if I need to provide additional information...full CSS:
http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/main.css -- ::Bruce:: -- ::Bruce:: 


Re: [WSG] a better tsolution than oveflow:auto for Mozilla?

2005-09-27 Thread Bruce Gilbert
that's more or less what I am doing, but

take a look at this page in FF

http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/About.htm

scroll bars are there, if I take out overflow:auto in CSS on div#text_area

it looks even worse cuz, in FF the div only extends as far as the #right_block_content on some pages.

my CSS for #right_block_content div is:

#right_content_block_index{/*used for vertical divider on home page*/float:right;width:35%;height:100%;padding-right:10px;
}

here is an example of a page which is messed up in ff w/o the overflow:auto

http://www.fortuneinteractive.com/Clients.htm

full CSShttp://www.fortuneinteractive.com/main.css


On 9/27/05, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


#wrap{float:left;}
#header {}
#maincontent {float:right; width:49%;}
#sidebar{float:left; width:49%}
#footer {clear:both;}

div id=wrap
div id=header/div
div id=maincontent/div
div id=sidebar/div
/div
div id=footer/div


Is this what you mean?
It's a very basic version of what you are describing. It works for me. 

Normally, I float the parent for areas where I'm afraid clearing an element will also clear the sidebar. I haven't tried it for the whole page layout. 


div id=gallery
dl
dtasdfa/dt
ddasdfasdF/dd
/dl

dl
dtasdfa/dt
ddasdfasdF/dd
/dl

dl
dtasdfa/dt
ddasdfasdF/dd
/dl
/div

#gallery {float:left; width:100%;}
#gallery dl {float:left; width:40%; margin:1em;}

Any feedback on this folks? 

Ted
www.tdrake.net










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On Behalf Of Bruce GilbertSent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:55 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] a better tsolution than oveflow:auto for Mozilla?


Thanks Ted,



not sure I am understanding you correctly, though. Say you have a parent div you would to extend the length of your content, and within that parent div you have a div at the top that you want to not float, but fit the width of the parent, and below the top child div, you have two more twin dis, one floated left, and one right, each taking up about 50% or half of the parent div. What would be the solution for this? I don't think floating the parent would work in this case, unless I am misunderstanding you. 


On 9/27/05, Drake, Ted C. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hi Bruce
Try floating the content div instead. I've often found this to be the easiest fix. A floated parent will contain its floated children. 


I've been writing a document for my fellow programmers about nested lists and if write parent/child one more time I think I'm going to change my name to Dr. Seuss. 


Ted
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[WSG] please ignore prvs. msg.

2005-09-16 Thread Bruce Gilbert
msg. sent to wrong group, sorry bout that :-)


[WSG] 2night

2005-09-16 Thread Bruce Gilbert
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Re: [WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF!

2005-09-08 Thread Bruce Gilbert
On 9/7/05, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3. You don't need the content wrapper either. All you really need is: wrapper header [clear] left_col, top_bar [break] center_col, right_col,
 [clear] footer close wrapper

by [clear] do you mean a clearing div?

eg:

.clearing{
clear:both;
}

div class=clearing/div
On 9/7/05, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, use photoshop to combine the left and right shadows and the blue column background in one image. Because you have a fixed width layout, they can be one background image.
cheers,Geoff.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
]On Behalf Of Bruce GilbertSent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 11:38 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF!
thanks for the advice/suggestions. How do you add more than one background to a div? Or are you saying to combine the shadow and blue left column image in photoshop? Not quite understanding that, sorry. Also, what about the right shadow image?
thanks,On 9/7/05, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bruce,It's not looking too good in IE either - enlarge the text and the content wraps below the left nav.
General advice: get it working on Firefox *first*, and then adjust to work on IE.Specific advice:1. Get rid of the wrapper divs - you only need the outer one.Put the background on the outer wrapper - you can include both shadows, the dark blue left column background, and the grey vertical line in the one background image. By putting all this in the wrapper background, it will extend to the whole length of the wrapper, and you won't need the Project 7 _javascript_ (which doesn't seem to be working for FF).
2. Give the header, the left column, and the footer a left-margin equal to the width of your left shadow.3. You don't need the content wrapper either. All you really need is:wrapperheader
[clear]left_col, top_bar [break]center_col, right_col,[clear]footerclose wrapper4. top_bar: right-align the text instead of using all that left padding.
hope this helps...cheers,--Geoff PackDeveloperABC New Media -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 2:05 PM To: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF! I tested the following site I am working on in Mozilla and it's not looking too good at the moment.
 the URL is:http://www.semlogic.com/test/index.htm and the CSS is http://semlogic.com/test/CSS/Global.css
 some of the issues are the left menu isn't displaying properly, the background image for the left column isn't displaying and the footer background isn't extending to the content. Also, the grey bar at the
 top isn't looking right. Everthing validates, and it actually looks as expected in IE, but I know that these issues, are probably due to coding misjudgements, so if they could be pointed out, I would be greatly appreciative!
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[WSG] IE 5.0 fix assistance needed

2005-09-08 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello,

on my personal site at http://www.inspired-evolution.com, there are a few issues I noticed when viewing in IE 5 PC.


(1) the top graphic doesn't extend all the way to the right leaving a gap between the header and container.

(2) top menu is all bunched together and floating to the left below my header, and my bottom menu is doing something similar.

(3) the dark blue container background extendsbelow my grey footer background, which I do not want. eg: footer is notsticking tothe bottom like I intended.

If anyone can offer assistance in these fixes, I would be greatly appreciative!

URL: http://www.inspired-evolution.com
CSS: http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css-- ::Bruce:: 


Re: [WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF!

2005-09-07 Thread Bruce Gilbert
thanks for the advice/suggestions. How do you add more than one background to a div? Or are you saying to combine theshadow and blue left column imagein photoshop? Not quite understanding that, sorry. Also, what about the right shadow image?


thanks,
On 9/7/05, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce,It's not looking too good in IE either - enlarge the text and the content wraps below the left nav.
General advice: get it working on Firefox *first*, and then adjust to work on IE.Specific advice:1. Get rid of the wrapper divs - you only need the outer one.Put the background on the outer wrapper - you can include both shadows, the dark blue left column background, and the grey vertical line in the one background image. By putting all this in the wrapper background, it will extend to the whole length of the wrapper, and you won't need the Project 7 _javascript_ (which doesn't seem to be working for FF).
2. Give the header, the left column, and the footer a left-margin equal to the width of your left shadow.3. You don't need the content wrapper either. All you really need is: wrapper header
 [clear] left_col, top_bar [break] center_col, right_col, [clear] footer close wrapper4. top_bar: right-align the text instead of using all that left padding.
hope this helps...cheers,--Geoff PackDeveloperABC New Media -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bruce Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 2:05 PM To: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF! I tested the following site I am working on in Mozilla and it's not looking too good at the moment.
 the URL is:http://www.semlogic.com/test/index.htm and the CSS is http://semlogic.com/test/CSS/Global.css
 some of the issues are the left menu isn't displaying properly, the background image for the left column isn't displaying and the footer background isn't extending to the content. Also, the grey bar at the
 top isn't looking right. Everthing validates, and it actually looks as expected in IE, but I know that these issues, are probably due to coding misjudgements, so if they could be pointed out, I would be greatly appreciative!
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[WSG] site not looking good in Mozilla/FF!

2005-09-06 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I tested the following site I am working on in Mozilla and it's not
looking too good at the moment.

the URL is:  http://www.semlogic.com/test/index.htm

and the CSS is http://semlogic.com/test/CSS/Global.css

some of the issues are the left menu isn't displaying properly, the
background image for the left column isn't displaying and the footer
background isn't extending to the content. Also, the grey bar at the
top isn't looking right.

Everthing validates, and it actually looks as expected in IE, but I
know that these issues, are probably due to coding misjudgements, so
if they could be pointed out, I would be greatly appreciative!

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[WSG] issues with trying to overlay background-images

2005-08-18 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello group.

On a page I am working on, I am trying to get a background image for a
search bar to overlap and appear in front of another background image.
I am not sure if this is even possible, but I am trying to do it using
z-index to no avail.

the page url is:http://www.semlogic.com/new_version/template.htm

and the relevent CSS is

#header {
margin:0;
padding:0;
width:780px;
height:142px;
background: url(../images/bkg_header.gif);
z-index:100;
}

#grey_bar{/*grey bar used below logo header*/
background:#c1c1c1 url(../images/search_bkg.gif) top right no-repeat;
width:100%;
height:auto;
z-index:1;

}

the grey bar has a background positioned right which is the background
for the search bar and I want that to extend beyond (above) the
boundaries of the grey_bar div and appear in front of the image in the
header div.

hope this makes a little bit of sense.

the full css is at :

http://www.semlogic.com/new_version/css/style.css

any suggestions for accomplishing this is greatly appreciated!


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[WSG] getting ie 6 PC to behave with padding, margins and h1 within a div

2005-08-11 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have a div bar, which I am trying to make the height narrower, but
in IE PC , it doesn't want to cooperate unless I add a specific height
to the div, but then my h1, appears at the top of the div, so I try
adding some padding or margin to the h1 which expans the height of the
div which it contains and I DONT want that.

here is the page:http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/index.htm

I am referring to the green bar with the h1 'home'

CSS in question:

* html div#page_title_bar{/*for IE to make bar thinner*/
background-color:#9bb58f;
padding:0;
margin:0;
border-top:1px solid #363;
border-bottom:1px solid #363;
height:15px;
}


* html div#page_title_bar h1{/*for IE again*/
margin-top:.25em;
}

anything I can do here?

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[WSG] footer at bottom of page

2005-08-10 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I was hoping someone could look at this page

http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/Company.htm

and help me with getting the footer at the absolute bottom of the
page. Right now, as I look at in in FF PC, there is some of the body
which shows below it. The body is green and the footer is white.

the CSS is at : http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/WDM.css

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[WSG] browser v.5 woes

2005-08-09 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I just checked a site I am working on in both PC and Mac v. 5.0 and
the page is looking pretty crappy in those browsers. I am most
interested in getting things looiking better in IE PC 5.0. The main
probs are top menu scrunched together with side borders and h1 title
page  div not enough padding . Any hacks I can apply specifically to
the 5's is greatly appreciative.

URL: http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/Company.htm
CSS:http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/WDM.css

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[WSG] a few more issues with page layout with definition list

2005-08-04 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello,

thanks for the information about using a definition list to layout
thumbnail images and text. I think this is a great way to do things. I
am still having some layout issues looking at firefox on the PC
though.

take a look at http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/test_file_home.htm
and the CSS at http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/WDM.css

the thumbnail images and the text, aren't quite aligning like I
want.The dt shoul align to the right off the image above the dd list.
and a little for space between the image and text.

another small issue I am seeing is the picture with the hand holding
the key has some unwanted spacing at the top before you get to the
darker green bar. I need to get rid of that spacing and am not sure
where it is coming from.

Any assistance on this is greatly appreciated!!! 

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Re: [WSG] a few more issues with page layout with definition list

2005-08-04 Thread Bruce Gilbert
On 8/4/05, Rachel Radford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Bruce,
 It's looking good but quite different between FF and IE...
 
 Try putting a negative top margin on the image with the hand and key... that
 should fix that problem for Firefox. But you might need to make it
 conditional so that IE 6 won't do it too.  From a design point of view
 perhaps a background colour on the div id=maincontent_image so that you
 don't get the green colour below the image and so you create a visual
 column??

Hey Rachel and group,

thanks for the tip about the neg. margin. Looks good in FF now but it
did mess up IE. What would a conditional statement for IE 6 consist
of?

here is the CSS in question:

div#maincontent_image{/*used as a holder and placement for main images
which appear on a page*/
float:left;
width:214px;
height:366px;
border-right:1px solid #333;
margin:-1.14em 1.5em 0 0;
background-color:#363;
}

http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/test_file_home.htm
http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/WDM.css
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[WSG] how should I mark this up ? (thumbnail links)

2005-08-03 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have a test site set up at
http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/test/test_file.htm

and part of it I am struggling as the best way to code it. That would
be the thumbnail images links you see around the middle of the page 
(free applications, cost estimate, one on one).

right now I have a container div and individual divs to separate the images.

My first problem is I want to get rid of the border around the images,
since they are links.

my second problem is I need the link txt to line up to the top right
of the images and have some more text below it which explains what the
link is.

This is probably no simple, but any suggestions are appreciated.

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[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2005-07-09 Thread Bruce Gilbert
David Laakso wrote:

Major Tom says, neither:
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 (but then what does he know...?)

This is ground control to Major Tomhuh?

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[WSG] image height and width question which is better CSS or inline

2005-07-08 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have a question about which is the better way to approach adding a
height width to an image for accessibilty/standards.

img src=image.jpg height=25 width=45 /

or img src=image.jpg class=thisimage /

and in the CSS have:

.thisimage{
height:25px;
width:45px;
}

or is either one o.k?

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[WSG] problems with aligning of thumbnails

2005-07-06 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I am *trying* to get my thumbnail images to align center to their
respective backgrounds and also to change border color on mouseover
and I am not able to accomplish either one at the moment.

The page in question is http://inspired-evolution.com/Graphics.php

and CSS can be found at http://inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css

pertinent CSS  is:

dl.gallery
{
border: 1px solid #33;
background-color: #b0c4de;
width: 175px;
float:left;
text-align:center;
margin-left:3em;
}

.gallery dt { font-weight: bold; font-color:#66;padding:0; margin:0}

.gallery dt img
{
border: 1px solid #66;
width: 144px;
height: 144px;

}

.gallery dt img.ams
{
border: 1px solid #66;
width: 144px;
height: 79px;

}

.gallery dt img a:link
{
border: 1px solid #66;
}

.gallery dt img a:visited
{
border: 1px solid #66;
}

.gallery dt img a:hover
{
border: 2px solid #33;
}

.gallery dt img a:active
{
border: 1px solid #33;
}

.gallery dd
{
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

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[WSG] trouble with extra width in IE PC

2005-06-28 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello,

I am having a devil of a time trying to fix a problem with page not
aligning correctly width wise in IE on the PC.

If you are on IE on the PC and go to
http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Hireme.php you will see what I mean.

The dark blue area to the right of 'hire me' has extra padding or
something wich make it extend on the right beyond the header and top
navigation.

If someone could take a look at the CSS and let me know of any
solutions, I would be appreciative.

CSS is http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css.



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[WSG] valid javascript code

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Hello,

I just tried to validate a page against an  XHTML strict  DTD with
javascript code and received these errors:

there is no attribute language

required attribute type not specified

I am calling the JS code externally and thought it was correct.

the syntax in question is:

script language=javascript src=/javascript/rollover.js/script 

what am I doing wrong??

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[WSG] not sure why I am getting errors in CSS file

2005-06-10 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Can someone do me a favor and run my CSS through the CSS validator at
w3c.org and see if they can determine what the errors mean and what
needs be sone to correct? I am not sure why I am getting about 7
errors in my CSS file. I'm working only in a text editing program and
not a good CSS editor, so I may be doing something stupid that I can't
see at first glance.

Anyway the CSS is located at http://www.inspired-evolution.com/Gilbert.css

TIA!

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[WSG] information architecture

2005-05-31 Thread Bruce Gilbert
can someone give me a good explanation on what information
acrhitecture is as it relates to web standards? I seen the word(s)
used a lot lately.

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[WSG] style sheet set up

2005-05-28 Thread Bruce Gilbert
is there any standard way to set up the flow of a style sheet? I
usually try and use just one style sheet and start with global
elements such as body, p, table, li etc. followed by elements as they
flow on a page from header to footer. I use one stylesheet even though
with a large site, this can become quite large. Looking for
suggestions/thoughts on what others do such as multiple stylesheets
vs. one big one, layout of styles, etc.

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[WSG] why doesn't this validate with w3c.org and what to do about it

2005-05-26 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have some comments within my CSS to let me or anyone else know what
is controlling what

eg: 
/*aligns list in middle of page*/
p.middle{test-align:center}

validation doesn't like this.is there a fix? or should I just ignore???

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[WSG] best way to approach markup of an address

2005-05-22 Thread Bruce Gilbert
for an address, which way is best

address
1st linebr /
2nd linebr /
3rd linebr /
/address

or


address1st line/address
address2nd line/address
address3rd line/address

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[WSG] css markup for a list with a list

2005-02-16 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I have an unorganized sublist ul with a organized list ol and it's
not picking up my CSS.  Sorry I don't have a link to the page I can
display, but was hoping someone could assist based upon my code.

(x) html:
div class=content
ol
lifirst list item/li
li2nd list item/li

li3rd list item:
ul
lifirst sublist item for 3rd list item/li
li2nd sublist item for 3rd list item/li
/ul
/li
li4th list item
ul
li1st sublist item for 4th list item/li 
li2nd sublist item for 4th list item/li 
/ul
/li
/ol
/div

CSS:

.content ol li ul li {
margin: 0 0 0 25px;
list-style-type: none;
font-size: 100%;
color: #f00;
}

I have a font size of  100.01% set up in the body tag.

my sublist is displaying really tiny and with bullets (should be no bullets)

any help is greatly appreciated!


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[WSG] need explanation on this css element please

2005-01-28 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Can someone explain exactly what using * in front of something does such as

*html li {padding:0;margin:0;}

also, I noticed this doesn't validate by w3c, but I see it a lot
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[WSG] how to mark up h3 header for list

2005-01-27 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I don't think w3c standards will allow mark-up this way, so I was
wondering the best way to mark up a header for a list. looking for
standards, and accessibility.

what I currently have is:

div id=list1
  ul class=navlist
h3Most Requested/h3
lia href=# title=How to EnrollHow to Enroll/a/li
lia href=# title=Lunch Menus Lunch Menus/a/li
lia href=# title=Emergency InformationEmergency
Information/a/li
lia href=# title=CalendarsCalendars/a/li
lia href=# title=Contact UsContact Us/a/li
lia href=# title=Test ScoresTest Scores/a/li
  /ul
/div

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[WSG] problems fitting content in third column in IE win

2005-01-15 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I was hoping someone could look at a test page I am workin on located at:

http://www.echs.dpsnc.net/testing/html/public_affairs.htm.

the problem I am having is in IE Win, the text in the third column (on
the right) is not fitting inside the column borders. I originally
tested using firefox, so I got the text to fit perfectly with that
browser and any extra padding or margin I add to help out with IE will
push things too far over to the right in the mozilla browsers.
Starting to get my predicament? It's driving me batty! Any hints,
suggestions or solutions would be greatly appreciated.

the CSS can be found at http://www.echs.dpsnc.net/testing/css/DPS_top_level.css

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[WSG] code 4 son of suckerfish to work on Mac IE browser

2004-07-12 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




A short while back, I believe someone posted work around code in order for
the son of suckerfish drop down menu to work on a Mac IE browser. The code
that should be changed was:  if (window.attachEvent)
window.attachEvent(onload, sfHover);

I can't remember what exactly needed to be changed. Can someone refresh my
memory?

TIA

Bruce Gilbert
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Durham, North Carolina
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Re: [WSG] code 4 son of suckerfish to work on Mac IE browser

2004-07-12 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




that's great, thanks!

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Bruce,

I think this might be what you are looking for:
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php#comment17

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 A short while back, I believe someone posted work around code in order
 for
 the son of suckerfish drop down menu to work on a Mac IE browser. The
 code
 that should be changed was:  if (window.attachEvent)
 window.attachEvent(onload, sfHover);

 I can't remember what exactly needed to be changed. Can someone
 refresh my
 memory?

 TIA

 Bruce Gilbert
 Webmaster
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 Durham, North Carolina
 (919) 560-9118 -Office Phone
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[WSG] Bruce Gilbert is out of the office.

2004-06-21 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




I will be out of the office starting  06/21/2004 and will not return until
06/23/2004.

I will respond to your message when I return on Wednesday, June 23rd.

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Re: [WSG] third style sheet needed?

2004-06-01 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




the site is http://creekside.dpsnc.net and the CSS is located at
http://creekside.dpsnc.net/print.css and
http://creekside.dpsnc.net/creekside.css\

P.S... I'm aware that the URL below my name is a mess. but that's a
different story :-)


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I have a style sheet I am using for the web media=screen and I also have
one for print purposes media=print. I also want to hide the CSS from
older browsers such as NS 4.0 etc. using the @import feature if possible.
snip/

It would help if you supplied either a URL or a code snipped. I have a
guess at what the problem is, but I'd rather withhold my guesses since
code would make guessing unnecessary.

http://www.dpsnc.net


This URL doesn't match your description, so I assume you're referring to
a different one. It, by the way, is a mess. It has two heads with a form
tag in between. Needless to say it doesn't validate.
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Re: [WSG] third style sheet needed?

2004-06-01 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




thanks,

I actually did run in through the validator once, but I guess not after
adding the second style sheet. My mistake there. I'm really not lazy and
don't expect others to do my work for meI'm just forgetfull :-)

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the site is http://creekside.dpsnc.net and the CSS is located at
http://creekside.dpsnc.net/print.css and
http://creekside.dpsnc.net/creekside.css\


I take it you didn't try to validate? If you did, you probably would
have found the extra quotation mark in the link/. That might solve
your problem with the @-rule being ignored.

If that doesn't solve the problem, copy and paste the links and @-rules
you're using to your message.

You should realize that while people here are very happy to help, they
don't want it for you. By not running a page first through the
validator, you're basically saying to people I'm too lazy to do my own
work; you do it for me.
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[WSG] third style sheet needed?

2004-05-31 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




I have a style sheet I am using for the web media=screen and I also have
one for print purposes media=print. I also want to hide the CSS from
older browsers such as NS 4.0 etc. using the @import feature if possible.

When I do the @import feature the page defaults to my print style sheet for
some reason. I have tried doing both @import url for the stylesheets and
also leaving one as a link and the other @import.  Am I doing something
wrong or is there another way to get the older browsers to ignore the CSS?

TIA

Bruce Gilbert
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[WSG] when to place as a background in CSS

2004-05-28 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




Hello Group,

I am creating a web site, that I want to make as accessible as possible.
Some important images such as logos and the mast header I have placed in
img tags within the (x) html so I can give them alt tags, but other
images which are basically decoration, I have placed within the CSS div
tags as background images. Is this o.k to do as long as the images don't
have any specific meaning to the content?

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Re: [WSG] CSS calendar

2004-05-14 Thread Bruce . Gilbert




I was just going to suggest Eric Meyer on CSS as well.

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Hello all,

Anyone have examples of calendars created with CSS?  I want to create a
calendar for our clients to see when we have training scheduled, etc.
and I'm curious to see what others have managed.

Thanks.

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