Re: [WSG] Comments Please? Site Check.
Hello! We still don't have a url to help you with! -- From: Kathleen R Dery krd...@gmail.com Hello! I have one more week to develop this site, and I wonder if someone would give me feedback. I don't really like the Dreamweaver widgets, but there they are on almost every page. The Cars page will have a widget as well. The only child page I have is for Lecture Tours. Does it have any hope? Kathleen *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Accessible menu lists - using the pipe character as separator?
Hello all I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this via Google - is it best practice to use something like the pipe character ( | ) to separate links in a menu so that screenreader software pauses between the list items? Any recommended articles dealing with accessible menus in general? Daisy *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Pipe separated lists
You can hear the recorded output from JAWS of vertical pipes (and other commonly used separator characters) in Peter Krantz's article, The Sound of the Accessible Title Tag Separator, [http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2004/11/06/6-the-sound-of-the-accessible-title-tag-separator]. Daisy Christian Montoya wrote: If you heard what pipe separators sound like in a screen reader, you wouldn't think they were semantic. Just because they have a long history doesn't make them machine-readable. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 09/12/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] UK Government Web standards - IE and serving issues...
Patrick Lauke wrote: (imagine your grandmother with her IE6 going to her local council website - after you finally got her to use the interweb - to find information on some opening times or whatever, only to be presented with a Open / Save as... dialog). Patrick, I'm a grandmother -- albeit a stunningly youthful one ;-) -- and I'm following this thread avidly as I try and decide whether to serve up html or xhtml as I accessify a delightful but flawed WP theme. On this interweb so many of you dashing young things are talking about. Could we drop the sexist (it's never a grandfather!), ageist digs at people who simply had the misfortune to be born 10, 20, 50 years too early? I hate to pick on you (of all people, who do so much for accessibility) but the aunt mabel type tag (it's nearly always an older, female relative) comes up too frequently and whilst I'm no bra burning feminist, even I get hacked off at throwaway remarks such as this. Now where did I put my dentures and zimmer frame last night... ;-) Daisy --- http://chasingdaisy.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 01/12/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] DW 8 standards
Samuel Richardson wrote: I moved from Dreamweaver to hand coding because it was faster for CSS layout based sites. For working on older table based sites then Dreamweaver is handy for navigating around the nested layouts. On a related note, can anyone suggest a text editor that features an auto complete (for tags and attributes). Also, if it had Dreamweavers ability to select blocks of tags (from open tag to close tag and everything in between) that would be fantastic. You might have a look at Karlis Blumenthals' excellent HTMLPad [http://www.blumentals.net/htmlpad/] (US$25.85). I've been using it for a couple of years now (having tried quite a few other free/low priced editors) but this one just seemed the perfect bridge between a plain text editor and a fully blown wysiwyg editor. The latest version is called Webuilder [http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/] (US$39.85) but if cost is an issue for you, I can't recommend HTMLPad highly enough. Related note: I don't use Dreamweaver but I think you could easily replicate the ability to select blocks of tags by adding these to your code library and selecting from there each time. If I had the spare funds I'd also be using Westciv's StyleMaster [http://www.westciv.com/style_master/index.html] (US$59.99). Even though I can easily edit css in HTMLPad, StyleMaster has enough bells whistles (the x-ray feature http://www.westciv.com/style_master/product_info/index.html#xray to name but one) to justify the extra cost. You might also like to have a look at the css-discuss list of editors: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssEditors . Daisy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/128 - Release Date: 10/10/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Automated accessibility testers
A few more useful articles/sites: Big, Stark Chunk - article by Joe Clark on how to use CSS to automatically redesign and reorder your Web site for low-vision people http://www.alistapart.com/articles/lowvision/ Building accessible websites http://joeclark.org/book/ (buy the book or read it online) Joe Clark's blog on accessibility http://blog.fawny.org/category/accessibility/ Andy Budd, Design for Accessibility http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/skillswap05/accessibility/ RNID, 10 things you should know about website accessibility http://www.rnidteaser.co.uk/index.html Accessibility from the ground up http://digital-web.com/articles/accessibility_from_the_ground_up/ Accessify http://www.accessify.com/default.asp Accessify forums http://www.accessifyforum.com/ Guidelines for Accessible and Usable Web Sites: Observing Users Who Work With Screen Readers http://redish.net/content/papers/interactions.html WebAIM http://www.webaim.org/ Kornel Lesinski wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:48:46 +0100, Rowena Padel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cole I really can't remember where I got it, but I have a pdf file called Dive into Accessibility that is freely distributable under a GNU Free Documentation license. I found it a brilliant description of the what, why and how of accessibility. If you like I will send you a copy privately. click click http://diveintoaccessibility.org/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 11/04/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online
Now you've got me thinking. Is there anything similar to the Talking Newspapers service for internet content? Should there be? A group of fast typing volunteers/proofreaders could provide transcripts to popular non subtitled items. We'd barely be scratching the surface of what needs to be done but is it worth thinking about Leslie? Janet Leslie Riggs wrote: Patrick, I was definitely serious. I miss out on so many excellent online workshops, streaming audio, and presentations because I can't hear/understand the people who speak during those events. Lipreading over the Internet has its limitations ;) Anyone who provides transcripts or subtitling does an enormous, incalculable service for Deaf and hard of hearing professionals like me. We get to smile, laugh, and ponder right along with everyone else, instead of a few seconds later. Leslie Riggs Leslie, I'm trying to figure out if you were being serious, or just sarcastic... but interestingly enough, I was actually going to do a quick transcript of it this weekend and nudge Jeffrey to make that available as well. I could also have a stab at SMIL...could be an interesting little exercise, as I've done a bit of it in the past. Watch this space :) Patrick -Original Message- From: Leslie Riggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 November 2004 15:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] web essentials 04 - zeldman video keynote online Any way there's a transcript available? I'm deaf and so very interested in what Zeldman had to say. I'd love it if I could read the transcript while watching the video... What would send me to absolute nirvana would be to have the video contain captioning (subtitling) right IN the video - ohhh, just the very thought of it thrills me... thud Ugh, that was me coming back to terra firma. Leslie Riggs ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Looking for a little peer review
I'm using IE6.0 on WindowsXP Pro and it looks fine. I tried various resolutions and expanded/shrank the window but was unable to 'break' it. Same here (but Win2K). The right hand sidebar content falls a little onto the middle column when text is set to Largest but the blog is still more than readable even then. The blog content is very easy to read at all resolutions - if you had comments I'd be leaving a complimentary one right now. Daisy http://chasingdaisy.typepad.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
