Re: [WSG] Accessibility changer
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:15:22 +0100, James ja...@insydney.com.au wrote: Thanks Russ and all those involved with last nights meeting :) One set of technologies that will change our ability to access information. http://insydney.com.au/information/GoogleProjectGlass.htm Should be able to realtime change our vision and hearing. We may have to think realtime accessibility standards? James. There are many more intrusive features that we may need to rethink apart from accessibility. :( Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:27:24 +0100, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote: markup http://chelseacreekstudio.com/site/portfolio/01.php css around line 669 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/site/css/sisu.css The image does not fill the width of the window in Sanyo Mirro scp3810 for BoostMobile running Opera Mini 5.1 nor in the Opera Mini Simulator. http://www.opera.com/mobile/demo/ What to do? aside It does fill the window in Mac OS X 10.4 at 600, 480, and 400. And it fills the window in the iPhoney Simulator... /aside Best, ~d Only an old Nokia N80 to test on. Messed with Opera Mini settings and the only way to get the image to display at larger than mini size was to set Image Quality to High, but then it did not respect the screen width. Doesn't seem to provide any clues I'm afraid. Best wishes Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: opera mini 5.1 ::
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:41:33 +0100, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote: Whoops. Hit send too soon. Here's the rest of it... Got the iPod screenshot, thanks -- will look into it. The image issue has been resloved in the Opera Mini Simulator and in the Sany Mirro handset [a low-end device] with Duncan's suggestion of setting Image Quality High. This makes the image from too narrow to too wide. I changed the CSS as follows to reduce the image width: /* was 96% */ @media handheld, screen and (max-width: 480px), screen and (max-device-width: 480px) { body#p #main img { max-width : 35% !important; height : auto !important; } } /* for Opera Mini 5.1 on SanyoMirro 4 BoostMobile*/ Best, ~d I've tried just about every combination of settings on the N80 screen size is 352x416 tried portrait and landscape, it lands in an awkward patch of your @media values. Having checked in Opera desktop, which does respond to the @media queries, and the N80, I have a suspicion that there may be something in your header that is maintaining a side scroll on the handheld. Could that be an overflow failure in Mini or a minimum size setting. Best settings for Portrait or Landscape: Images: On Image Quality: High Font: Medium Mobile View: Off Fullscreen: On or Off Best wishes Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:04:52 +0100, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: If I may... if you're happy with your web experience in IE6, then you need do nothing IMHO. Eventually, and I imagine IE9 will speed this up, developers are going to stop giving as much care to IE6 as they do now - if they do at all. Your web experience in IE6 will begin to dwindle to text-only pages. Sure, the info is there and If that's all you want, you'll be fine. ;-) No, I never said I was happy with the IE 6 situation, I use it to the absolute minimum, and never browse with it, or indeed with IE 7 or IE 8. The whole point of my comment was that too many people think this is all going to be fixed with the advent of IE 9. I fear that it is just the opposite. Many users are 'locked' to IE 6 because of Operating System specifications, do you think that IE 9 being locked to only Vista and Win 7 users is going to ease this problem. My point was that with around 64% of the Windows user base still using XP, a far bigger problem is about to land on our desk. At minimum an XP user must buy a new operating system to have access to IE 9, and in many cases that upgrade will require a new higher spec system to run on. The 'corporate' world does not appear to have embraced Vista or Win 7 and it could be a considerable time before they do, given the current financial climate the small businesses that I have spoken too will extend the life of their systems as far as possible. 'Domestic' users are feeling the pinch just as much. Anyone who has recently bought a new machine will probably have little trouble when IE 9 is released, but consider the costs involved for a user with an older low spec machine. New system, new operating system, and in some cases a need to upgrade other software to match the new system can run to quite a sum of cash. Can we reasonably expect this expenditure purely to have the functions that IE 9 will bring, and what exactly are those so essential functions. Perhaps if they were so essential, the corporate world would have been the first to head toward system upgrades. The overriding problem is not really the browser itself, it is the fact that IE is so tightly bundled, and locked into the Operating System. I am well aware of the problems of keeping IE 6 happy, IE 7 is not a great lot better, but until the operating systems themselves have truly gone extinct, those browsers are still going to be around. Unless authors and businesses, particularly eCommerce sites, consciously make the decision to exclude an unknown chunk of their potential market we will soon have another member of the IE family to deal with. We will never 'kill' IE 6 by ignoring and potentially alienating its user base, only if Microsoft take the browser out of the operating system and produce a competitive stand alone browser will we have a chance to emerge from the whole IE mess. Were a personal computer only a tool for browsing the internet, we 'might' be justified in applying pressure to users to upgrade their system, but in the real world a PC has many wider uses, possibly much more important to the individual user. Should we continue to try and communicate with those users, even if it means presenting the information in much simpler form, or should we be responsible for alienating and denigrating those users and potential buyers of our information/product. Duncan (sent from my ageing, low spec machine using Opera 10.54) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:31:03 +0100, Edward Lynn edward.l...@randluk.co.uk wrote: Hi everyone, For me the IE6 issue is to a degree self perpetuating. We all do our best to support IE6 and provide an experience which is as little degraded as possible, and in doing that very thing, we give IE6 users no reason to upgrade. If everyone started not to ignore ie6, but to give them a degraded experience, and advise the user what they are missing out on, perhaps these users would start have have more of a reason to upgrade. Ed Ed, This is not aimed as a personal comment, just my general thoughts about browsers. You are only seeing this from a 'Browser' point of view, what about the numerous people who have an elderly system that is not even capable of running something like IE 8. I still use 3 P3 machines with Win 2000, I can't go above IE 6 without upgrading the OS. XP will run on a P3 machine, but for sure neither Vista nor Win 7 will work. I can no longer buy a new copy of XP, therefore to upgrade my browser I would have to buy a new system. If my systems will cope with all the other major browsers, is seeing bells and whistles in IE a reason to spend large sums of cash. Not to mention the environmental aspect of throwing away solidly working machines just for the sake of a browser. The situation is soon to become even more complex, Microsoft will only release IE 9 for Vista and above. Somewhere it was reported that XP still accounts for around 64% of the Windows user base. A real browser from Microsoft could solve all the problems, but it would need to be unbundled from the operating system and have as wide a reach as say FireFox and Opera for system requirements. I have Win 7 capable machines, but why should I need to buy new OS just for the sake of a browser, those machines perform every function that I need in all other respects. Just what are all the wondrous features that an IE 6 user is missing out on, how essential are they to the function of dissemination of information. What happens as the instances of bandwidth capping become more widespread. Much of what we are fed these days is 'bloat', from the operating systems to web ads and more. I started with a Sinclair ZX81 with a massive 1Kilobyte of memory, we've moved forward a long way, but is it all for the better? Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 Finally Nearing Extinction [STATS]
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:32:03 +0100, Foskett, Mike mike.fosk...@uk.tesco.com wrote: Hi all, Ref Links for light reading article: http://mashable.com/2010/06/01/ie6-below-5-percent/ Which basically states IEv6 has dropped below the 5% threshold across USA and Europe. Nice figures, the stats were produced for May 2010, and calculated for 15 Billion page views. The quoted 4.7% using IE 6 therefore still amounts to around 70 Million page views during May 2010. (that's the entire population of the UK, and then some) . dead? Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] lost my data
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:27:10 +0200, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: hi. well think one of my projects is online. but got the other projects, on one of my cds, got from my lecturer. but lost the dream weaver stuff, and a couple of other projects. but got the majority. but lost projects from other campuses. so was wondering. any accessible, free recovery software i could try to recover the files. the folders that the projects were in were: c:\Docs\Tafe i do have a folder called c:\Docs so is that space over written. any one had the same problem. and able to use recovery software and were they successfull. marvin. Hi Marvin, Try using Parted Magic from http://partedmagic.com/ It is Linux based and will run a number of utilities that may help you recover some of your data. You will need to get the assistance of a sighted person though, it is just too complicated to describe all of the steps via email. You will first have to burn a CD or add the software to a USB stick, you then boot the system from either the CD or USB to get to some fantastic utilities. It has worked well for me in the past. Good luck Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
OK. Know from nothing about tables. Will look into. David, I found this article a help in getting started with marking up tables correctly. article by Zoe Gillenwater http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=0BEA6 Duncan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] 8 invites for Google Wave
Duncan's 4 invites all gone :) On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:10:42 -, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au wrote: ADMIN Google Wave invites are totally off topic - though its great to see people sharing. Can we do the following: 1. if you have WAVE invites, feel free to post to the list - just for today only! 2. anyone asking for WAVE invites to respond directly to the invitee OFF LIST! Thanks Russ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Google Wave webstandardsgroup?
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:04:52 -, Krystian Szastok sunl...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a great idea. Problem is that wave is for group projects, so really, if we wanted to roll it out we'd need to start creating some kind of community projects I guess... But I do definitely want to participate. Thanks, Krystian I'm still just feeling my way in Wave, but it seems that it can be one-to-one as easily as it can group involvement. There is of course the risk that main-line topics get handled in a Wave and that could exclude any list members that have not signed up, or do not have the facility to use Wave. It would probably also not show up in the list archives and I know from personal experience that I have had many of my own queries answered with a simple archive search. Perhaps an idea to start is to add our 'Wave' address to our signature. Duncan dun...@googlewave.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] 8 invites for Google Wave
4 invites up for grabs. ?? can we also post to say they've all gone to save people chasing needlessly. Duncan On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:10:42 -, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au wrote: ADMIN Google Wave invites are totally off topic - though its great to see people sharing. Can we do the following: 1. if you have WAVE invites, feel free to post to the list - just for today only! 2. anyone asking for WAVE invites to respond directly to the invitee OFF LIST! Thanks Russ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***