RES: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
What you mean? -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Juarez Filho Enviada em: terça-feira, 30 de setembro de 2008 12:25 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page I think the better approach is put a link to users see the Terms Conditions, because you probably will need to show this again in another section of the site. For JS capabilities browsers you can use the power of JS and Ajax to do a great interface. =D -- Regards, Juarez P. A. Filho http://juarezpaf.com The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. Eleanor Roosevelt *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 news
How many time you guys think that will take to at least 70% of ie7 users update their browsers? I estimate 2/half years ... anyone can predict? - Original Message - From: aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 news Yeap, it sucks! I'll find a solution to that! Regards, Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes - Nosce te ipsum - http://sapiensdc.com.br On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to be the brave and die first IE's victim :-) Very Bad! my IE 6 is gone, IE 7 standalone is working. The installation took over 15 minutes. How do they expect we test the browser by disable the the previous version(s) ?? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** tee On Mar 5, 2008, at 11:32 AM, aleagi wrote: Yeah, I'm afraid to install it and kick IE6 and 7 out of my box! Anyone with the guts to do it? @:D Regards. Aleagi . On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody installed the IE8beta1 yet? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/Install.htm Wondering if this nukes IE7 and embeds itself into Windows, or if it can run standalone... P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] hello
I suggest a definition to web 2.0: The lysergic side of Internet. Why? As Timothy Leary, he defined a thought. As Beatles on Seargent Peppers As Bush on War against terror Is impossible to describe. Genau Jr Midiaweb Internet De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Richard Pendergast Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de fevereiro de 2008 09:05 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] hello that is by far the most profound statement ive heard regarding web 2.0 totally spot on. funny how simple things become when you look at it that way... love your work. On 2/13/08, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking, etc. The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss feeds etc. I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which incorporate these technologies. Stuart On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc? Kat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents
You could use a select box menu to allow the user choosing an action (Read / Print / Open.) Is how newer web tools are working with multi-functions on the same stage of navigation. Genau L. Jr. Media Developer Curitiba-PR Brazil De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Rochester oliveira Enviada em: segunda-feira, 28 de janeiro de 2008 16:05 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Usability for downloading documents Doesn't have a way to force the don't download? Or you may force download as pdf and make a jpg() for the preview :) 2 buttons for the same action will be a problem for sure. 2008/1/28, Christian Snodgrass [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wording that would be really tricky, because if they're default action is to download it, when they hit Read they'd expect it to just open, not offer them a download prompt. There are a lot of people that would be agitated that both buttons do the same thing. Rochester oliveira wrote: I think that you should make 2 buttons. The user will choice for download or just read the documment []'s - Rochester Oliveira http://webbemfeita.com/ Viva a Web-Bem-Feita Web Designer Curitiba - PR - Brasil *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ http://www.arwebdesign.net Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- []'s - Rochester Oliveira http://webbemfeita.com/ Viva a Web-Bem-Feita Web Designer Curitiba - PR - Brasil *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Using CSS for Flash backgrounds
Christian Montoya wrote: The only problem with this is sometimes when you right-click (if you ever need to right click) you get the Flash right-click options. You might also get certain Flash cursors instead of the default browser cursors. On 9/26/05, *kvnmcwebn* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'And I agree Sam, having movement like that behind text is one of the worst things you can do.' I think that was meant as an example. If this trick is used in a more ambiant way it could be really useful. Maybe just have some image substitution for opera until a solution is found. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Definetley Flash cursosr are the best option to resolve this issue., ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Styling of legend in Firefox
I did some with legend tag on my website on all those form leilds. check this out,,, http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: -Original Message- From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 9:01 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling of legend in Firefox To get around the issue, I style the form not the fieldset tag so that the legend appears fully enclosed by the form. This still works semantically as, although the fieldset is invisible, it is linked structurally to the legend in the underlying markup... therefore providing the "captioning" effect outlined in the W3C rec I was thinking about that, but it will only work if I have got no more than one fieldset per form. In my case most of the pages of my website will have multiple fieldsets in each form. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** i did -- att, Genau L. Jnior ___ WebDesigner/Media Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php +55 (41)342-5757 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] The name of THAT css/flash font
Phillips, Wendy wrote: You might mean SIFR or Scalable Inman Flash Replacement http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr Wendy Phillips ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Thanks Wendy. Exatly that i was looking for. Hugs! -- att, Genau L. Júnior ___ WebDesigner/Media Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php +55 (41)342-5757 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] The name of THAT css/flash font
Few days ago, i was reading an article that said something about a new font swf based, that coud be possible be called by .css . Does anyone knows how´s the name of that new font.? Thanks. -- att, Genau L. Júnior ___ WebDesigner/Media Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php +55 (41)342-5757 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Strange problem
Hi Bob, i already had this problem with a website that i did. Somethin useful to avoid this kind of problema, you did wery well. You Validated the code. But sometimes, some browser or some OS may recognize the XHTML in differents views. I recommend you use a toll pretty useful tho hard times like that. Try: http://www.browsercam.com/default.aspx There, you can see through snapshots, you site in different OS and browser. best regards, Genau L. Jr WebDesigner/Media Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br designer wrote: Good Morning All, (well, it is here), I have recently started the conversion of a site (www.sheltielife.co.uk - actually my wife's) to XHTM/CSS and I thought it was fine. It all validates etc (apart from the frameset and a teeny bit of Flash:-) and I've tested it in FF, IE5.5 and 6, Opera 7, Mozilla - and it seems to work OK (windows XP). However, one lady has contacted my wife because she 'can't see the gallery'. She has tried over 2-3 days but fails consistently. The rest of the site is no problem. Unfortunately, she doesn't know what her PC is, her browser, or anything else 'technical', so it's hard to know if she is doing/using something peculiar, or indeed if there is a real problem here. So, could anyone with a MAC, or anything else which isn't winXP, have a look and see please? And if you find anything, tell me what is wrong? The actual problem page (s) can be seen at [1] and the css at [2] [1] http://www.gwelan.fsnet.co.uk/gallery/galleryone.html [2] http://www.gwelan.fsnet.co.uk/CSSfiles/gallery.css (or, of course, you can just go to the domain link above and select 'gallery' Many thanks. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Dear Mr. Mason. I suppose that you DIDN´T understood what i wrote before. I said X HTML Web Standards, and for me, that site, even uses HTML tags as you can see follows... div style=position:absolute;left:0px;top:117px;color:white; bTo activate all search settings above pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2? su=1amp;cp='+escape(window.location);login./a /fontnbsp;nbsp;If you do not have an account pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1amp; cp='+escape(window.location);register/a/font/b/div/div/div/form/div Sorry, but you would reconsider you comments, and read more before take an opinion. by the way, the website is already validated. best regards, Genau L. Jr http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Jamie Mason wrote: We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Hi, I would like to show you some improvements that we did in our Portal. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br After some advices about our XHTML validation, we almost fixed all bugs in xhtml, leaving just one bit problem with our js function that detects the resolution to advertisement skyscrapper. We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards, iether using some Disabilities functions like ShortTag, to users with Carpal Tunnel and notebooks users. (as you can see http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/acessibilidade.php ). I would like to thanks all people that help us to improve the quality standards and ask for some Advices and oppinions. Thanks , Genau Lopes Junior Webdesigner/MediaDeveloper www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
*Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene Falck wrote: Hi Daniele, You wrote: good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css Hmmm I checked: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 and I found errors listed as: 1. (with the first of the used to AND two conditionals marked) Line 177, column 79: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...avaScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElement If you wish to include the character in your output, you should escape it as lt;. Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag. and: 2. (with the s of screen.width marked) Line 177, column 81: cannot generate system identifier for general entity screen.width ...aScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElementBy An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded ampersands in URLs as described by the WDG in Ampersands in URLs. ... Of course, script is not an URL and I hadn't given much thought to escaping characters in JavaScript. Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
quote*Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene, I tried switch the javascript ampersands , by ASCII code , but the js didn´t works. Anyone knows how to switch for a valid character? Thanks, Genau L. Jr Genau Lopes Jr. wrote: *Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene Falck wrote: Hi Daniele, You wrote: good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css Hmmm I checked: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 and I found errors listed as: 1. (with the first of the used to AND two conditionals marked) Line 177, column 79: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...avaScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElement If you wish to include the character in your output, you should escape it as lt;. Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag. and: 2. (with the s of screen.width marked) Line 177, column 81: cannot generate system identifier for general entity screen.width ...aScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElementBy An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded ampersands in URLs as described by the WDG in Ampersands in URLs. ... Of course, script is not an URL and I hadn't given much thought to escaping characters in JavaScript. Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Erik, You where right! My code was validated inserting spaces between the "" and "" characters. My doubt is know why the validators odnt understand those characters togheter. I will try to find some documentation and DOM specifies to discover why that happpens. BTW, Erik, you advice was very usefull. Thanks a lot. Genau L. Junior www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php Erik Peterson wrote: Gene Falck wrote: Hi Erik, Which is about what I was suspecting--its one thing to give the user agent an entity when what you want is a text rendering of a character and quite another to use an entity where the program must treat it as part of your coding. BTW, do you see any difference in this matter between amp; and #38;? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that I had successfully used lt; as a comparison in a _javascript_ before, but of course, now I can't find where I did that. I would have thought that #38; would behave exactly as amp;, but thought it might be an interesting avenue to explore... I tend to have all of my _javascript_ in external files which is the other way to make sure that this doesn't happen. A very interesting note, however. I did some testing and found that while this failed validation: if(document.getElementByIdscreen.width1000) this did *not* fail: if(document.getElementById screen.width 1000) and I tried that code in various documents: HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 trans, XHTML 1.0 Strict and XHTML 1.1 Strict... all passed. It seems that the validator only really complains when and are butted up against other characters that aren't part of character entities and tags, respectively. -Erik ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Z-index Problem
You are using the same z-indez number in both classes. You should use
different z-index numbuer for each absolute div.
att,
Genau L. Jr
www.meucarronovo.com.br
James Oppenheim wrote:
Hi all,
I am having trouble with css z-index. Here is a portion of it:
img.y {
position: absolute;
top: 147px;
z-index: 1;
}
img.x {
position: absolute;
top: 201px;
z-index: 1;
}
.main_content {
position: relative;
left: 0px;
top: 0px;
z-index: 2;
text-align: left;
padding: 50px 20px 15px 34px;
color: #494949;
font-size: 12px;
height: 350px; /* Start of IE min-height hack */
min-height: 290px;
}
htmlbody .main_content {
height: auto;
min-height: 290px; /* End of IE min-height hack */
}
At the moment it all works well, except for IE. IE does not like the
fact that there is not a left position allocated. So it puts the
images in the centre of the screen, but under the text, so the Z-index
works. If I make the position: relative; the images will not be
placed underneath the text.
Any ideas??
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Re: [WSG] is rgb(255,255,255) better than #ffffff or white?
Alan Trick wrote: I was just reading through the Web authoring standards document at http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/standards.html and I noticed the line Authors MAY use any legal markup to determine document colours, but SHOULD use RGB specifications to do so. Does that mean that hex values or color names are not as good? Why? Alan Trick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Some standards like WebTV uses RGB format to defne that colors. I notice that all WebTV interfaces, are built using RGB standanrds to define colors. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Web Standads Skyscraper - Anyone knows how to?
Hi, I am developing some different advertising and would like to know, how can i create a slide layer that appears on righr side of browser, only when the screen resolution is more than 1024x768 pixels. My layer should be 150 px x 600 and will be layered at right side of the page. Can anyone help me how can i, make this using WebStandards and some Javascript? thanks for help, Genau L. Jr Webdesigner/MEdia Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Advertising CSS Help
Hi, I am developing some different advertising and would like to know, how can i create a slide layer that appears on righr side of browser, only when the screen resolution is more than 1024x768 pixels. My layer should be 150 px x 600 and will be layered at right side of the page. Can anyone help me how can i, make this using WebStandards and some Javascript? thanks for help, Genau L. Jr Webdesigner/MEdia Developer www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Website Review - BRAZILIAN Portal
Hi. I did some fixes, after you comments. http://www.meucarronoov.com.br Please, i would appreciate more suggestions. Thank tou. Genau Jr Webdesigner ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Correct URL Website Review - BRAZILIAN Portal
The Correct URL is www.meucarronovo.com.br sorry, was a typing mistake. Genau Junior wrote: Hi. I did some fixes, after you comments. http://www.meucarronoov.com.br Please, i would appreciate more suggestions. Thank tou. Genau Jr Webdesigner avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0504-0, 25/01/2005 Tested on: 25/1/2005 09:05:26 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Site Review - BRAZILIAN portal
Hi. We are releasing next saturday, the new interface based in webstandards to biggest car seller website of brazil south region and the second of country. I would appreciate all comments and suggestions about interface, design and usability standards. The temporary address is: http://meucarronovo.locaweb.com.br You can post, register and suggest. The portal nowadays have 15.000 visits per day and almost 350.000 visits per month being a huge example of what webstandards can be usefull to big websites. Thanks a lot of all help gave for you last months Genau Lopes Jr. www.meucarronovo.com.br ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Brazilian Portal site Review. Opinions Welcomes
tHANKS.. I gonna make all fix reported by you. Thanks a lot. Trusz, Andrew escreveu: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Genau Junior Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:17 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Brazilian Portal site Review. Opinions Welcomes Hi. We are releasing next saturday, the new interface based in webstandards to biggest car seller website of brazil south region and the second of country. I would appreciate all comments and suggestions about interface, design and usability standards. The temporary address is: http://meucarronovo.locaweb.com.br ** You've got two closing body tags. Any fixed width page will fracture quickly when font sizes are increased. Its math. If you are stuck with a fixed page width and fixed fonts as design parameters, not much you can do about it. A liquid design would allow more flexibility but would also eventually break. Frankly it looks a whole lot better than the clutter you typically find on an auto dealership page in the usa. drew ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Brazilian Portal site Review. Opinions Welcomes
Hi. We are releasing next saturday, the new interface based in webstandards to biggest car seller website of brazil south region and the second of country. I would appreciate all comments and suggestions about interface, design and usability standards. The temporary address is: http://meucarronovo.locaweb.com.br You can post, register and suggest. The portal nowadays have 15.000 visits per day and almost 350.000 visits per month being a huge example of what webstandards can be usefull to big websites. Thanks a lot of all help gave for you last months Genau Lopes Jr. www.meucarronovo.com.br ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Mobile and Browser Emulators
Hello Everybody Can anyone, tell me where i can emulate my xhtml interface in a plenty of differents browsers, like pda´s, opera, konqueror, etc...? I would appreciate, some links. thanks. Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner
Re: [WSG] Mobile and Browser Emulators
Thanks, Patrick, and John. Very usefull tools. Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner - Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Mobile and Browser Emulators Genau Junior wrote: Can anyone, tell me where i can emulate my xhtml interface in a plenty of differents browsers, like pda´s, opera, konqueror, etc...? For browser: I'd start with http://www.browsercam.com/ and, wherever possible, installing any browsers you can on your dev machine. For mobile phone emulation (although can't vouch on their accuracy): http://www.gelon.net/ http://developer.openwave.com/dvl/tools_and_sdk/openwave_mobile_sdk/phone_si mulator/ MSN Tv Viewer: http://developer.msntv.com/Tools/msntvvwr.asp Patrick H. Lauke -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Help With a weird link style
Hello All, Im finishing a website at http://www.novo.meucarronovo.com.br/compara.php Inside a tag: ul li|a href=""Imprimir Lista /a|/li li|a href=""Nova busca/a|/li /ul The rigth class and style inside a tag a/a can be viewed at: http://www.novo.meucarronovo.com.br/listabusca.php Inside tag: ul lia href="" Enviar para um amigo/a|/li li|a target="_blank" href=""Imprimir veiacute;culo/a|/li li|a href=""Veiacute;culos salvos/a|/li li|a href=""Nova busca/a|/li /ul The problem is that the style links are being showed in different styles without reason. Can anyone helpme? And i appreciate advices about layout and design Thanks, Genau Jr. www.meucarronovo.com.br ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
Kay, I appreciated your advice about www.websiteoptimization , but i think that service its not enougth to analyses if the css and html have the rigth size or not. I think that an emphiric and softwarless analisys, can be more useful. Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner - Original Message - From: John Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file I just tossed my site through that web optimization service (http://www.websiteoptimization.com/), and it returned a very peculiar review: it counted and weighed every single image being pointed to from my CSS file, even though the HTML page that I had it review only used a fraction of them. Which begs the question, when a stylesheet is loaded up by a browser, will that browser automatically attempt to load every referenced image, regardless of it being called by the HTML file? I would never have assumed so, but admittedly never gave it any thought either. . . -- Pura Vida John D Wells http://www.jdwjr.com On Oct 20, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Kay Smoljak wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:36:20 -0200, Genau Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. Try running a few sites through http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ - the analyzer gives specific recommended sizes for each component of a page (css, js, html, images), and reasons for each too. Another useful tool that reports on similar aspects is http://www.sitereportcard.com/ Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. I know that this is a hard question, but some people may have a different poit of view about an accetable size for loading a .css file. 30kb , for example, is a accetable css file size? Genau Lopes Júnior
[WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems
Hello everybody, I developed a kind of tab menu navigation using li, that changes when mouse over occours. Im rebuilding this site using xhtml. (under construction), and i having some problems with this menu. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/xhtml Note that IE browser, freezes when onmouseover event occours. In other browsers, the css menu tab, works fine. Can anyone explain me why this browser freezes, when the mouse sets over the css menu tab? I would appeciate some advice. kind regards, Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br
[WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems
Hello everybody, I developed a kind of tab menu navigation using li, that changes when mouse over occours. Im rebuilding this site using xhtml. (under construction), and i having some problems with this menu. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/xhtml Note that IE browser, freezes when onmouseover event occours. In other browsers, the css menu tab, works fine. Can anyone explain me why this browser freezes, when the mouse sets over the css menu tab? PS: My css file still no validated and some classes are repeated, but on final version, that will be fixed. I would appeciate some advice. kind regards, Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br
Re: [WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems
I mean that some classes aren´t being used anymore. I dont think that it is my problem Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner ¬¬¬ http://www.meucarronovo.com.br - Original Message - From: Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems Genau Junior wrote: Can anyone explain me why this browser freezes, when the mouse sets over the css menu tab? PS: My css file still no validated and some classes are repeated, but on final version, that will be fixed. Rule #1 for problem-solving: eliminate variables. In this case: validate your CSS. You can't expect browsers to work in any kind of predictable way if your CSS is invalid. I haven't checked, but I suspect your duplicate classes won't help. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac Tools Kit for Web Standards Developer
I´ve been using DMX2004 too. Also Contribute to tempate pages and Check in / check out to colaborative developement. It´s pretty good! Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner ¬¬¬ http://www.meucarronovo.com.br - Original Message - From: Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Mac Tools Kit for Web Standards Developer Me three, er...i mean... I like DWMX04 as well. The pop-up code help is great. Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 On Oct 10, 2004, at 8:38 PM, John Oxton wrote: I would second that call on DWMX 2004, I have tried pretty much everything and nothing beats Dreamweaver in code view. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Input File Format
Hello folks!
I´m having some dificulty to set the size of
[input=file] form element.
I can set the width through CSS on Mozzila, but IE
cant set the size that i formated on CSS file.
Anyone can help me how i set a size on INPUT FILE
on both browsers?
besides follows the hiperlink
http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/xhtml/anuncie2.php
Please, is needed make the test on IE and Mozzila
to view the differences?
Here the format of my css to set thisform style...
select[type=text], input[type=reset], input[type=button],button
{background-color: #006699;color:
#FF;text-align: right;}
input {margin-top: 3px;margin-left:
5px;width: 102px;border: 1px solid
#85ADD6;font-size: 9px;}
Best regards,
Genau Lopes
JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br
[WSG] LI VS Tables - A Tabular data fight
I Would like to know about your oppinion for using tabular data with DIV LI or to use table to show them. I´ve been researching on the web about this discussion but i didn´t found an answer really straight. I am rebuilding a website using XHTML, that will work with many tabular data and i have some doubts about to use div/lists easily and semanticly correct. I would like to know, if some developed a website that uses tabular data without tables and what was the experience using them. Soon as possible i will publish my work using li/li to show how i did that. Hugs, Genau Lopes JúniorWebDesigner¬¬¬http://www.meucarronovo.com.br (new site under construction)
[WSG] OL or UL? It´s rigth?
Hello, My friend is asking me if i can use tags ul ol/ol /ul can i validate that? its semantic correct? Thanks; Marky Pop.
[WSG] Re: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth?
Thank you everybody. Paul, Torrence, Nick and others . I understood the semantic order. - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: Re:_[WSG]_OL_or_UL? _It´s_rigth? At 05:19 PM 10/4/2004, Parker Torrence wrote: Yes you can http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html section 10.2 see DEPRECATED EXAMPLE: which is: UL LI ... Level one, number one... OL LI ... Level two, number one... LI ... Level two, number two... OL start=10 LI ... Level three, number one... /OL LI ... Level two, number three... /OL LI ... Level one, number two... /UL It's my understanding that the LI tags remain open until closed either explicitly with /li or implicitly by the next li or the final /ul or /ol. Because this example is HTML, not XHTML, and the LI tags are not explicitly closed, I believe that the OLs in that example are embedded in fact in the LIs and not the UL/OL elements. The same is true of the old-fashioned table markup. If you saw this: table tr tdHere is a pparagraph tdHere's another cell /table ...would you say the paragraph was embedded in the TD, the TR, or the TABLE? It's in the TD, of course. Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 19/7/2004 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unwanted extra space
Thats a bug of IE.
I use to apply this css hack to fix some bugs of IE
Ex.
div#nameofyourdiv
{
here... put the propreties that ALL the other browsers recognizes..
}
* html body div#nameofyourdiv
{
put here the properties that only IE will recognize.
}
Genau Lopes Júnior
WebDesigner
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http://www.meucarronovo.com.br
- Original Message -
From: Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Unwanted extra space
G'day
First, I have extra space above and below the banner image - I just want
10px space,
The banner image sits inside a paragraph. Paragraphs have margins, unless
you set them to zero in your css. Easiest fix is to lose the paragraph - the
image can go directly in the div.
Second, I've added a 15px top margin to the content div to get
some space between the navigation and first heading, but IE6
Windows seems to add more.
I see more in Firefox as well. Approximately 28 pixels. Check margins and
padding on the navcontainer and navlist.
Can't help you with Mac issues but maybe it's a similar issue.
One thing that can help in finding these problems is to put a (light)
background on each div and see whether the space is inside or outside the
div.
Hope this helps
--
Bert Doorn, Web Developer
Better Web Design
www.bwdzine.com
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
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Re: [WSG] PNG with alpha trans in IE
Try use this on your tag
In this case, i used on my head content, but you can apply this code
anywhere.
h1{
filter: progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader
(src='your.png',sizingMethod='scale');
}
htmlbody h1{ /*Child Selector Hack, esconde do ie*/
background: url(your.png);
}
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- Original Message -
From: Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:11 AM
Subject: [WSG] PNG with alpha trans in IE
Hi all,
Can someone point me to the fix/hack/patch/code to get PNGs with alpha
transparency to work in IE?
TIA
--
Tom Livingston
Senior Multimedia Artist
mlinc.com
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Re: [WSG] Divs or Cells
You shoud try to make some test tunning versions to analyse how bandwidth the interfaces and technologies qre faster. I think that one conversation with your clients about the advantages of web standards may be proper. Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner ¬¬¬ http://www.meucarronovo.com.br - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Divs or Cells Just to be certain, I woudl give the option to view a super low level version of teh website. so its almost WAP like... Just pure text with a few images... Will make browsing faster, and more accessible... One thing to realise is. People using PDAs or Phones to use hte internet, pay tremendous fees. PERSONALLY - I wouldnt mind seeing a black/white page and save me a few bucks on bandwidth - than have a colour logo thats 26kb and have images all over the navigation bar etc... Just another POV for you to think about. :) Cheers Wasabi wrote: Hi, If this is off-topic, please reply directly. a client with an international market needs a site redesign. The currently use tables, but would like a transition to CSS. My concern is their market, an international base of travelers on various platforms with varying skill levels. I'm reluctant to do a full CSS redesign, fearing someone will try to access the site from a PDA while on foto safari in the outback. Would a well crafted, minimal table solution, i.e Designing With Web Standards, fit the bill; or is CSS 2 penetration enough to ensure seamless integration, as much as can be expected, for the diverse client base? Respectfully, Chris http://ckimedia.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IFRAME X DIV
Thanks Mark, you understood perfectly! So, the problem continues... ;-) i hope some solution appears here! If anyone know some solution, me and Mark will be very happy. Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner ¬¬¬ http://www.meucarronovo.com.br - Original Message - From: Mark Harwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] IFRAME X DIV Let me see if i've understood you request correctly You want to be able to include an external website within a IFRAME but without having a set height, so that the IFRAME just expands to the height of the external site? This i dont belive is possible without having something like JavaScript to detect the height of the page your including, but i may as usual be wrong. But i can remeber when i was creating my Browser page (http://phunky.co.uk/2004/browser.php?url=http://phunky.co.uk/) on my old site that i came across this very same problem and didnt find a soloution. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
