Re: [WSG] WSG Site
Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] WSG Site
To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the site I am referring to. Is it working for you? Yessir, that too. Working fine :-) Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] What is ... XHTML Questions
Hi, How did that one guy, 'beandizzy', pass all three tests? http://www.goer.org/Journal/2003/Apr/index.html#results How do I replicate those efforts? If you read the tests, you'll see that passing them is not that hard after all. The first two steps, xhtml validation of home page and internal page is quite within anyone's control. The third step, that of mime type (serving xhtml as application/xhtml+xml) is not that difficult either, especially if you're using a content negotiation method. http://juicystudio.com/article/content-negotiation.php I used the correct mime type (application/xhtml+xml for XHTML 1.0 Strict) on my blog until cleaning non-validating comments became a headache. But it's not that difficult because there are plugins available for most blogging tools to activate content negotiation, and you can have textile comments. 1.What is the difference between the doctype and the standard namespace? What does this namespace provide: 'html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lan=en ' that isn't provided by the doctype? Doctypes are merely to turn on standards mode on browsers. Namespaces are required for the user agent to understand the tags used in the xml document. 2.blockquoteAn XML declaration is not required in all XML documents; however XHTML document authors are strongly encouraged to use XML declarations in all their documents. Such a declaration is required when the character encoding of the document is other than the default UTF-8 or UTF-16 and no encoding was determined by a higher-level protocol./blockquote http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ Is the XML declaration the XML prolog: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ? Yes it is. So if your character encoding is UTF-8, thus it is OK not to have this XML prolog? Or should that last 'and' have been an 'or' in the specs: Every valid xml document must have the xml prolog. And it should be the first thing in it, before even spaces. The prolog is not needed when you're sending xhtml as tag soup (mime type text/html), but required when sending as xml. HTH, Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict better than XHTML 1.0 Transitional?
This time I want to break the mould and go straight to a strict doctype. Will a strict doctype help really separate structure and style, and is now the right time to do so because many browsers support the XHTML 1.0 Strict doctype? You can have presentational markup (or atleast, markup that is semantically not correct) even with a strict doctype, so it's actually all about how you use the tool. But yes, the time is right for Strict. If you don't mind serving it as text/html ;-) Check out: http://www.w3.org/2003/01/xhtml-mimetype/content-negotiation Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?
On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Meta description is important! It's the one that Google uses when displaying results. You can do a quick summary of the page content in the description, or otherwise Google will show a random excerpt from the page where the search term appears. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Top Ten Web Design Mistakes - yeah, right!
It's not very usefull to troll on anything, and definitely not on something useful as useit.com. Please enlighten us on how you managed to say things like: I am not saying these problems don't exist - of course they do. But I can guarantee you the public (our real users) would vote completely different on what bugs them about website usability than what subscribers to Jakob Nielsen newsletter do. Perhaps it'd make sense to mention what website usability issues that bug these users, rather than going by your gut feeling - atleast Jakob asked his subscribers. It'd be interesting to note how many people you asked about it before coming to the conclusion that he was wrong. I'm not a huge fan of Jakob Nielsen, but I don't really enjoy reading baseless arguments either. Let's not let our designer egos become a barrier in understanding users better. cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody pointed out this article by our friend Jakob Nielsen to me: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html Let's start with this little comment at the beginning: For this year's list of worst design mistakes, I decided to try something new: I asked readers of my newsletter to nominate the usability problems they found the most irritating. How useless is that?! People who subscribe to Jakob Nielsen's newsletter are *not* normal. They are people who show interest in Usability, people who have got an above average understanding of Website Structure and Web Standards. Just take the first two biggest mistakes: 1. Legebility (fixed font sizes, non-standard fonts) 2. Non - Standard Links (javascript, opening windows, ...) Sounds familiar? Of course - it's the kind of stuff Web Standards and Usability people love chit-chatting about all day long (including us here on the WSG list). But does it mean they are really the two biggest Usability problems around? I don't think so. Go onto the street and ask anybody who's not absolutely fanatic with Usability or Web Standards what they find is the biggest Usability problem. Will they answer Oooh, I am really annoyed that I cannot change the font-sizes in my Internet Explorer browser because the evil programmer has set it to a fixed font-size? No, of course they won't say that. Because it's not the biggest Usability issue in the world, even though Usability and Web Standards discussions might make you think that. If I went and asked my mom what is the biggest usability issue would she respond Oh, Andreas, I hate those javascript popup windows when I click links. They are sooo non-standard and really confusing. CRAP! Of course she won't, because it doesn't bother her as much. I am not saying these problems don't exist - of course they do. But I can guarantee you the public (our real users) would vote completely different on what bugs them about website usability than what subscribers to Jakob Nielsen newsletter do. Just shows how much value you can put into the content on useit.com. Well, just my two cents. Andreas. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Top Ten Web Design Mistakes - yeah, right!
On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it'd make sense to mention what website usability issues that bug these users, rather than going by your gut feeling - atleast Jakob asked his subscribers. It'd be interesting to note how many people you asked about it before coming to the conclusion that he was wrong. Sounds like a challenge. I should start a poll of my own, then. :) Sorry if I sounded like an ass - but seriously, I do think Jakob's got a few good points in his article. My conclusion was based on the fact that in all the Usability Tests I have conducted so far I have hardly ever heard anybody mention fixed font sizes as their #1 mistake for a website. In fact, the only time I ever heard it mention was during accessibility tests with visually disabled users. Other than that users might mention font-size at some point, but according to my observations people focus on much more obvious things. Interesting observation. I'm on a rather big resolution here, and even with quite ok eyesight, I need to enlarge the text size to keep from going blind. And at the uni, I often come across browser windows that have font size increased, especially on small monitors. It may not be the most bugging issue, but it does bug nonetheless. Shocking design, unclear labelling of sections, inconsistent navigation and (as Katrina mentioned in an earlier post) unwanted popups would be amongst them. You got that dead right :o) cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Logic?
The border cuts off at bottom of menu, not bottom of content. That don't make sense. Makes a lot of sense. Floated elements don't take up any space in the container (i.e. the container will not contain them). There are several ways to get it working, but this is probably one of the best: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Logic?
Please forgive me if I've missed something, but I must respectfully disagree. I've created a number of fixed-width layouts centered within the viewport at 760px, and floated one-column left and the other column right inside a container div without issue. Yes, I've done it without problems too. But the situation discussed here is different because the container has a border, which should be as tall as the tallest of the content elements inside it. If this tallest element happens to be floated, and that float is *not* cleared *inside* the container, the container will not stretch down to wrap it. If it were not for that border, we could've gone ahead and used a non-wrapping container, and used clear: both for any footer content. cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hi David, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. Beautiful site. Um, not so beautiful banner ad. Is it possible to do something about that? FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). On the home page, the link to advanced search has a click here thing, which is not very elegant. How about making the Advanced Search text itself a link, and removing the following description? Advanced Search is a fairly common feature so your users most probably will not have a problem with it. cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf
On 7/25/05, Chris Cowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have thought that a web standards group would be using a more web standards compliant email client like Thunderbird ? Targetting email clients is like targetting browsers, which is soo 90. And don't forget the few of us who are on web mail (Gmail, Yahoo mail etc.) Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] double table trouble
I have 2 tables on the same page which I want to look identical for different days of the week. One has a small amount of text and so displays differently to the larger table. If I add a width to the table - it doesn't make any difference - if I add it to the td/th - it still doesn't work. How can I ensure that they look identical? Did specifying width for tds work? E.g.: td width=100 height=100Whatever/td Tables are a headache even when their use is essential. One way that seems to work fine is specifying the width as a percentage (Enclose it in a div that has a width specified, and use percentages for the tables). IE 5.x has a problem where percentage widths are calculated against the viewport rather than the parent element, so might have to do some hacks there too. cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Making a container div the same height as the longest div in it in mozilla browsers.
I'm displaying my cell borders using the page container div's background image and border properties. Works in IE and Opera but in all the Mozilla browsers I've tested in (Netscape, Firefox and Mozilla) the container doesn't wrap around the divs. I know it's something to do with all the divs in the container div being floated. If anyone can tell me how to solve it or point me in the direction of the relevant resource I would really appreciate it. Floated elements don't take up space inside the container, so the container won't stretch down to contain them (except in IE, which has it's own way of dealing with things). To force the container div to stretch, you can add a clearer div after all floated elements: E.g.: div style=clear: bothnbsp;/div However, there's another method [1] that does it the clean way, without structural markup, which I prefer. Prabhath http://nidahas.com [1] http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Scripting for Comments on a Weblog
On 7/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I'm fairly new to web design and have just launched my first blog site. I've seen on nearly every blog site the ability to allow users to leave comments about a post. I'm hoping someone could tell me the technology required for permitting comments on my site. It's simple. Use a CMS / Blogging tool like WordPress (http://wordpress.org), Textpattern (http://textpattern.com) or MovableType (http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/). You'll need to have some knowledge of XHTML, CSS and PHP if you want to customize the site. Happy bloggingI Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] font size in a table
On 7/4/05, Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Hope,
This was bugging me for ages too. I don't know _why_ it does it but my
workaround to-date has simply been to implicitly set font-size for p, td and
li. My table and list text usually display larger when I only set the
font-size in the body element.
I've asked this question before but is there a standard way to set the
font size across all elements (irrespsective of inheritance)?
The modified Global White Space Reset has this:
* {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-size: 100%; /* This sets _everything_ to one size */
}
Thereafter, you can specify rules for individual elements.
IE 5.x has a trouble with this, so you might want to add:
table {
font-size: 100%;
}
HTH,
Prabhath
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Re: [WSG] page layout problems in IE
Again, I'm very new to using CSS for page layouts this is my first one. I'm looking for suggestions on how to correct the display problem and/or tutorials on how to correct this issue. Welcome to CSS, and IE frustration :) Check out PIE [1] for IE bugs and how to fix [2] them - it's a great resource that you will find very useful as you try to make your designs IE proof. Prabhath http://nidahas.com [1] http://positioniseverything.net/ [2] http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Fixing the position of a page footer
Is it possible to fix the position of a page footer to the bottom of the
page, no matter the page size.
Try this:
#footer {
position: fixed;
bottom: 0;
left: 0;
}
You might want to add a positive z-index to this too.
HTH,
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Re: [WSG] Submit a form with text links
Styling form elements is a frustrating and, often, futile effort. Roger Johansson has a nice article with explanations [1] I think sticking to the submit buttons is the best way to go. Prabhath http://nidahas.com [1] http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200410/styling_even_more_form_controls/ On 6/1/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one I have been working on for a while: I have got a couple of text-links that I want to use to submit a form. The deal: it has to be accessible (has to work with JavaScript disabled). The closest I have come to a solution is to style input buttons with css so they look similar to text links, but it won't work in all browsers. Opera decides to add a shadow, even with background-color and border turned off. IE adds a bit of spacing left and right, even with padding and margin turned off. Has anybody else found a better solution to this? Thanks for the feedback! Andreas. Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Phone: (03) 9386 8907 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap?
I'm trying to make a page that will display some source code. The PRE tag works very will with retaining \t and \n but I can not find a way to make it wrap words. Words fly off the monitor... Shouldn't you be using the code tag instead? It's a semantically better option. However, the problem will still remain. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing
As long as you keep everything lean and semantic, the content order won't have a significant affect on Google indexing. However, the closer the main page header is to the body tag, the more important it is perceived by search engines, and more likely that the page will come up in searches. Since you'll be having this (probably) h2 in the main content area, having it at the top does help. It is always best to keep the content first for a host of other reasons as well, accessibility being the most important. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] This might be off topic. I am not sure who to ask.
It's best to stick to one CSS file (if you're thinking about seperating CSS rules based on the section of the page). However, it's easier to maintain CSS if you seperate positioning and other decorative/typography styles in to seperate files (E.g.: layout.css and main.css). Prabhath http://nidahas.com On 5/30/05, Angus at InfoForce Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might be off topic. I am not sure if I should create seperate CSS files for my header and footer, embed the CSS into one file with the HTML . or Have the css in my css main file and call the main file. I would like to keep to web standards and a small download for dialup users. Any advice? Angus MacKinnon MacKinnon Crest Saying Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat English - Fortune Assists The Daring Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc. 2nd Vice president Choroideremia Research Foundation Canada Inc. 1st Vice President http://www.choroideremia.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] a elements and what they can contain
Can anyone point me to the definitive part of the HTML spec that says this? http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.html#edef-A is one place :) Was going through the specs when Lea responded, but surprisingly, there's no specific phrase that says you can't wrap block level elements inside an anchor. I guess it's implied that no inline element can contain a block level element, and there's no need to specifically mention this with regard to anchors. Prabbath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] best way to approach markup of an address
Another application of DL, for example, is for marking up dialogues, with each DT naming a speaker, and each DD containing his or her words. 'Juliet equals Romeo, oh Romeo...' nope That example has been cited often for an instance where W3C got it wrong. or not. Anyways, a dialogue is definitely not a place for a definition list. By the name definition itself things should be clear. Perhaps W3C should come up with a new element for such uses (or the developer can create is own xHTML module, but, like, who cares?). Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] the mysteries of float - i seek enlightenment too
Yes, it's there on many older builds too. (Windows 2000, FFN 20050511). Prabhath http://nidahas.com On 5/26/05, Rowan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, Confirmed on Windows 2000, FFN 20050521. I'll have a play with your example and see if I can't work out the details. On 5/26/05, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I was zooming the text-size in FF, I saw that one line of text partly overlaps the red float. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/lineinfloat.html looks like the real browsers have some float bugs too. FFnightly20050525 WinXPSP2. Can this be confirmed on a Mac build? If this is a bug, someone knows the bugzilla entry for this? Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Rowan Lewis (AKA. The Wolf) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Definition lists for comments in blogs
If we are to follow the W3C example of using DLs to mark up dialogues, there's not much wrong with using a definition list for comments. Infact, it seems a very appropriate use of the element. However, your use of an unordered list with blockqoutes is very interesting too. I guess this is a matter of personal preference rather than what is correct or not. Prabhath http://nidahas.com On 5/26/05, Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- I've been redesigning my blog recently and I noticed what in my opinion was a misuse of definition lists when it came to the comments section. Doug Bowman and Dan Cedarholme use dtAt x:xxpm so-and-so said:/dt ddblah blah blah/dd The numbering of comments was done within Movabletype rather than an ordered list. For my own blog I came up with this solution. I don't claim it to be the best, but if there's better, do tell. ol liAt x:xxpm so-and-so said: blockquoteblah blah blah/blockquote /li /ol However, to make the order number clickable for use as a permalink to the comment, I had to turn off the bulleting, then reinsert comment order via movabletype. Lucian http://tribolum.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] make poverty history website
Is flashObject the best method for encorperating flash into pages? as aposed to others plain mark up (object / embed), flash Satay, or sIFR I think sIFR should be left out of this because it's goal is different. You can't have general flash content with sIFR - it's for typographical enhancemente only. I've used flash satay and find it a clean and easy way to embed flash stuff in to xHTML. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)
Putting it at the simplest level, I think the question is: given that Flash can be a powerful tool, and that it is sufficiently liked/desired to be given serious consideration, why do we have this song and dance to incorporate it into otherwise valid/compliant documents? Until Flash becomes an open specification, we'll have the song and dance. Making it an open spec won't happen because Adobe won't really benifit from the deal. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] W3C and Flash (was: make poverty history website)
Depends on the definition of open specification, I guess. Exactly. I was using the term open as in Free and Open Source. And as you mentioned, Flash satay is as close as you can get to keeping the code clean - sticking to the object tag and relying on the cascade. Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] print css crashing ie6
Use a print stylesheet, and get the basics right at the beginning:
* {
position: static;
float: none;
}
This is quite similar to Mobile CSS first steps:
http://nidahas.com/2005/04/04/mobile-css-first-steps/
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Re: [WSG] Urgent navigation problem
Hi Mary,
You have to float the list elements to create buttons.
Try:
#navlist li {
float: left;
list-style-type: none;
}
HTH
Prabhath
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On 4/28/05, Mary Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone help me with a site I'm working on at
www.ragamuffinbridal.co.uk. The home page is fine in IE for PC, but in
the other pages, the navigation style disappears. It's the same in all
pages when looked at in other PC and Mac browsers. Everything was fine
until I just updated the home page with a table (Yes, I know I
shouldn't...) table id=homepage to accommodate the sale button.
What have I done wrong? This is a live site so if anyone can help me
correct things before the client has a fit, I'd be really grateful!
CSS is at www.ragamuffinbridal.co.uk/styles/first.css
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Re: Betr.: [WSG] Window Pop-ups
You might find this useful: http://www.accessify.com/tutorials/the-perfect-pop-up.asp Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Slow loading of CSS
Hi Ryan, This is a common problem, (Flash of Unstyled Content) with plenty of cures. Check this out: http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp Prabhath Sirisena www.vesess.com On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:34:17 +1100, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Its great that more and more people are fully laying out their sites using CSS, but I'm often seeing the problem where the HTML loads before the CSS, leaving a second or so where you can see the raw structure of the site before it gets the stylesheet applied. For example: http://www.comedyfestival.com.au/raw/2005/index.php (Not a site I have anything to do with BTW, just one I came across tonight) This is a fairly simple site, and the developer has done well to build it using CSS, but when I view it using Internet Explorer I'm seeing the raw HTML for about a second before the CSS gets loaded. This can be confusing to the end user, as it almost looks like you are being redirected through another page. On the machine I'm on right now I don't have any other browsers to try it on, but does this problem happen with other browsers? Is there a way to avoid it when the site is browsed using IE? thanks, bye! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
