SV: [WSG] PopDown Menu NCFH

2008-12-18 Thread Siteman AS - Bent Inge
 
Hi!

The sucherfish Dropdowns featured on A List Apart is great, but even better
is the Superfish menu - U can see an example here: www.lundhs.no

The best part about it is that the dropdown holds even if your mouse fall
of the dropdown for a couple of seconds, so it's much more user friendly.

For code, visit: http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/

Best regards,
Ben @ Siteman in Norway

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Til: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Emne: [WSG] PopDown Menu NCFH

Hi All,

It's been a while, but given the season, not only could I use the wisdom of
the list, but the subject matter of the project begs a collaborative effort.
The National Center on Family Homeless redesign requires drop-down menus, of
which I'm not a fan, but are required.  
Would those experienced with Pure CSS Drop-Downs assist my effort?  
I've them started but the :hover disrupts the parent list.


http://working.bushidodeep.com/dwd/ncfh/nav/ncfh_template.html



Respectfully,
CK


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SV: [WSG] div over flash

2008-10-23 Thread Siteman AS - Bent Inge
 
Hi,

param name=wmode value=transparent / should do the trick, with z-index
of course.

Best regards,
Ben

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Emne: [WSG] div over flash

hi,
forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list.
Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css.

If i use:
param name=wmode value=opaque /

with z-index will it be sufficent?
-best
kevin



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[WSG] Siteproblem... IE off course

2005-07-08 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge

Hi!

Page: http://modulvegger.prosjektweb.net
Sheet: http://modulvegger.prosjektweb.net/sitestyle.css

Looks right in Firefox and Opera, but I've got big problems with the 
intended look in IE.


Anybody out there who's had the same problem before? I guess the problem is 
too close columns, i usually don't do this but this is how the client wants 
it :-)


For reference - since the stylesheet has norwegian names and comments - 
here's some translations:

#kol1 = left column
#kol2 = right column
#innhold = content

Hope somebody can help me out, I'd hate to use tables for this layout, even 
though, at this point, that seems like the last resort...


Best regards,
Ben @ siteman

Siteman DA
Teknologiveien 22
2815 Gjøvik

Tlf. 61 13 16 58
Mob. 990 29 871
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Re: [WSG] Siteproblem... IE off course

2005-07-08 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge

Using:
.groenn {
background: #3c0 url(a000.gif) no-repeat 0 0;
_height: 0; /* hasLayout trigger */
_margin-right: -3px; /* corr jog */
_margin-left: -3px; /* corr jog */
}

... as suggested by Georg in the previos mail, solved most of the problem, 
so it's not too bad now, but still not perfect.


However, U're right... The problem is just articles in the center column, 
otherwise it looks good. (The text is just bogus and got nothing to do with 
the design, so the language shouldn't be a problem :-)


It's still missing 1px on every side though.

I've tried to use other values on the negative margins too, but that gives 
no effect...


Best regards,
Ben @ siteman

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Siteproblem... IE off course


What big problems are there in IE?  I'm looking at it in IE6 and the 
only difference I see from FF 1.04 is the box in the center labeled 
Testartikkel starts in green 1/2 down the box instead of the whole 
height (I'm an English-only speaker though, so I feel kinda lost when I 
look at the site anyway).  Are there other differences occurring?


-Nate

*Nathan Rutman* ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Corporate Communications Designer

*Solvepoint Corporation*
882 South Matlack Street, Suite 110
West Chester, PA 19382
800.388.1850 x1208
484.356.0990 (fax)
www.solvepoint.com http://www.solvepoint.com



Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:

Page: http://modulvegger.prosjektweb.net Sheet: 
http://modulvegger.prosjektweb.net/sitestyle.css


Looks right in Firefox and Opera, but I've got big problems with the 
intended look in IE.



No surprise there... :-)

You'll have to play with the 'hasLayout' property and 3px margin-jog in
IE/win.

Something like:
.groenn {
background: #3c0 url(a000.gif) no-repeat 0 0;
_height: 0; /* hasLayout trigger */
_margin-right: -3px; /* corr jog */
_margin-left: -3px; /* corr jog */
}
...is the closest IE6 can get with that layout.

Similar solutions (hacks) may be needed elsewhere in that page, but I
don't have time to look further into it.

regards
Georg



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Re: [WSG] Design template for CMS, any thougts?

2004-11-15 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge



Hi, Erik Fåberg;-) (I guess that would be 
the translation to a norwegian name :-)

The design itself is not finished and is not 
important for now.
It's the markup I'm conserned with. Is it 
accesible, is it overaccesible etc.

About the width; the customer is set on a fixed 
with of 1000px, I adviced against it but I guess my advice didn't count for 
much...

White space... It's a mystery for me where all 
that whitespace comes from. Seems like it comes and goes of its own free will, I 
will have to investigate :..(

However, the original template is located at 
http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/designmal/and may be better. The sourcecode is the same.

And to George, thanks for valuable feedback. When 
it comes to target="_blank" i agree with you, but I'm not sure the customers 
will. This is by the way, the only reason I use Transitional instead of Strict 
XHTML.
Acceskeys - you wrote:
 accesskey="T" is valid, but accesskey 
often interfere with the use of keys in other software. Something may 
not work as a visitor is used to. Result: they don't seem to improve 
access-- only add confusion.

I would really like a second opinion on this, is 
it best to not use access keys at all? I'm sure there's some dissens when it 
comes to this, am I right?

you also wrote:
 3: It is always better to put the main 
content first in the source-code. Much more efficient with regard to 
search engines, and improves access for those who need it the most. 
Tell 'Skrue McDuck' that. Skip links helps a lot, so your template do 
not create any real accessibility-problems as I see it. Far from ideal 
though.

I haven't come up with a smart sollution to this, 
both me and Skrue McDuck is having trouble with this ;-)The point is that 
the credittbar and the xtra navigation bar is suppose to float beneath the 
tallest column, and with this design it will. If someone have a smart way of 
doing this, I'd be mighty happy :-) This is the layout compressed:

div id="ramme"!-- frame 
-- div id="header"/div!-- Usually 
just placeholder for absolutely positioned elements -- 
div id="kol1"/div!-- floats to the left 
-- div id="kol2"/div!-- floats to 
the right -- div 
id="innhold"/div!-- eq. main content - given margins to spare 
out sidecolumns -- div 
id="xtranav"/div!-- follows after the talles of the above 
columns -- div id="kreditt"/div!-- 
as xtranav --/div!-- end frame --

So - any smart ways to put the main content in 
front of kol1  kol2? Should they all float?

 4. Absolut font-size... I hate to give 
away control, but I guess I'll leave it up to each customer in the 
end.

Hope to get more valuablefeedback like this, and 
again to Rick and George - Thanks a lot!

Ben @ siteman
www.siteman.no


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From: "Rick Faaberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:37 
AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Design template for CMS, any 
thougts?
 I would really appreciate some quality feedback on this subject as 
the cms is suppose to be finished yesterday :-) The template is 
validated XHTML and CSS. The link to the html (xhtml) is http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/ and the stylesheet is located at http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/sitestyle.cssYour design width is pretty wide for smaller monitors it 
seems to me. Ittakes perhaps 2/3 of the width of my 20 inch monitor in 
Safari to see itall. Maybe if the center content part could be fluid that 
would help. Alsothe what I believe to be "Search Webdeal" form is hanging 
out to the rightas the only content there. Maybe it's supposed to be above 
"Siste artikler"?In Safari it is not.There is nearly infinite white 
space below your page content in Safari(current version). I can scroll down 
for hours and see only white.I'm not sure I'd ever go with 
full-justified text, but maybe that's apersonal thing. I just don't really 
like extra space between words that onlyserves to full-justify the 
text.Loads fast - clean design - and here I am of Norwegian descent 
(1/2) andunderstand none of the language ;-(HTHRick 
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[WSG] Design template for CMS, any thougts?

2004-11-14 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge



Hi!I've been working on a template to use 
for a new version of our cms.The idea is that the HTML-code (core) will be 
allmost the same for all the customers. Changes to the design is to be done only 
in the stylesheet. (yes... like www.csszengarden.com :-)I think I've 
managed to get it close to perfect, but I would very much like a second opinion 
from you wizes out there, before I decide to put it to work.Please 
disregard links etc., they're not working yet.
My goal is that the pages are accessible, 
SEO-friendly and that the design will be easy to change.
I would really appreciate some quality feedback 
on this subject as the cms is suppose to be finished yesterday :-)
The template is validated XHTML and 
CSS.

The link to the html (xhtml) is http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/and the stylesheet is 
locatedat http://www.siteman.no/v4/web_bi/webdeal/sitestyle.css

Thanks in advance,

Ben @ siteman, norway
www.siteman.no


Re: [WSG] WYSIWYG Editors

2004-09-16 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hi there!

U should really take a look at the FCKeditor, a sourceforge project.
At Siteman we use this for our CMS and it works great.
Check it out at http://www.fckeditor.net/ - it's free as well.

Best regards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: [WSG] WYSIWYG Editors


 Hi, I was wondering if any one knows a free WYSIWYG Editor that works
 with both IE and Firefox or Mozilla... or any other browser.
 
 The ones I have been seeing only work with IE
 
 Please help...
 
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 www.olajideolaolorun.com
 www.empirex.net
 
 Business  Projects:
 www.tripleolabs.com
 www.tripleostudios.com
 www.uniformserver.com
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[WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!

I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down to
the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.

The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.

Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)

The page is located here:
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
and the stylesheet is here:
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css

This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
english:

div id=sidebredde!-- PAGEWIDTH --

div id=header/div!-- HEADER --

div id=kol/div!-- LEFT COLUMN --

div id=hovedfelt/div!-- MAIN COLUMN --
div class=clear/div

/div!-- END PAGEWIDTH --

div id=kred/div!-- FOOTER --
div class=clear/div

Best regards,

Bent Inge Høiås

Address:
Teknologiveien 22
N-2815 Gjøvik
Norway

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no

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Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Thanks mugur!

That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned
browsers.
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted

Best regards,
Bent Inge


- Original Message - 
From: mugur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer


 Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:

 Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
 
 I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
 footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down
to
 the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
 pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
 
 The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
 The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
 
 Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
 
 The page is located here:
 http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
 and the stylesheet is here:
 http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
 
 This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
 english:
 
 div id=sidebredde!-- PAGEWIDTH --
 
 div id=header/div!-- HEADER --
 
 div id=kol/div!-- LEFT COLUMN --
 
 div id=hovedfelt/div!-- MAIN COLUMN --
 div class=clear/div
 
 /div!-- END PAGEWIDTH --
 
 div id=kred/div!-- FOOTER --
 div class=clear/div
 
 Best regards,
 
 Bent Inge Høiås
 
 Address:
 Teknologiveien 22
 N-2815 Gjøvik
 Norway
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
 
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 Hi,

 I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
 and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
 IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
 content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
 WRONG  :)
 Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
 The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
 inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
 on screen !

 My quick solution: remove the divs with class=clear and move the
 footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
 beeing inside the pagewidth  it will take up the desired role [
 previously filled in by the clear divs].
 Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
 will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.

 Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
 Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
 until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)

 Hope it helps !

 P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
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Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer

2004-08-20 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Thank you, Ted :-)

If you're referring to the outline 'shadows' that is actually suppose to be
some kind of a beveleffect to give the impression of an elevated content
area. I might not have succeded ;-)

Thanks again, I wish U and all the members of the web standards group a
great weekend!

Bent Inge

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From: Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer


That's a nice site. I like the combination of bevels and drop shadows.  They
are subtle enough to give dimension without being overwhelming.  As a
photographer, I tend to notice and get bugged by sites that have multiple
light sources, i.e. shadows coming from top, left, right, ...
I noticed this on your site, but it isn't bad.  I think it's because you
have the shadow going against the dark green background.
Ted


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From: Siteman DA - Bent Inge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer


Thanks mugur!

That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned
browsers.
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted

Best regards,
Bent Inge


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From: mugur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer


 Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:

 Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
 
 I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
 footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down
to
 the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
 pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
 
 The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
 The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
 
 Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
 
 The page is located here:
 http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
 and the stylesheet is here:
 http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
 
 This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
 english:
 
 div id=sidebredde!-- PAGEWIDTH --
 
 div id=header/div!-- HEADER --
 
 div id=kol/div!-- LEFT COLUMN --
 
 div id=hovedfelt/div!-- MAIN COLUMN --
 div class=clear/div
 
 /div!-- END PAGEWIDTH --
 
 div id=kred/div!-- FOOTER --
 div class=clear/div
 
 Best regards,
 
 Bent Inge Høiås
 
 Address:
 Teknologiveien 22
 N-2815 Gjøvik
 Norway
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
 
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 Hi,

 I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
 and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
 IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
 content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
 WRONG  :)
 Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
 The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
 inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
 on screen !

 My quick solution: remove the divs with class=clear and move the
 footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
 beeing inside the pagewidth  it will take up the desired role [
 previously filled in by the clear divs].
 Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
 will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.

 Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
 Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
 until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)

 Hope it helps !

 P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
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Re: [WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE

2004-07-28 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hi again and thanks for the replies from Nick and Phillipe!

The {whitespace: nowrap;} advice from Nick, sadly, didn't work. No
difference was displayed.

The code from Phillipe: li {float:left; width:100%; clear:both} however did
work :-) in some degree...
But it's a problem with that code as well. Now the subnav floats on top of
the entire menu and it's meant to appear just next to the 'subnavtrigger',
in this case 'ipsum'.
The existing code: li {position:relative; z-index:9 }does that, but with
that irritating whitespace in Explorer.
Is there a way of getting this code 2 work the same way in all browsers?

Most obliged,
Bent Inge @ www.siteman.no

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From: Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE


 On Wednesday, Jul 28, 2004, at 02:04 Australia/Sydney, Siteman DA -
 Bent Inge wrote:

  I'm aware of the problem with list items, and it sucks... But the
  markup
  (http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/designmal.php) can't be changed in
  order for the menu to work. So the changes has to be made in the
  stylesheet
  (http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/global.css)
 
  So - is there some way of tricking IE for this excact type of listmenu?

 Have you tried {whitespace: nowrap;} on the offending ul?

 Nick
 ___
 Omnivision. Websight.
 http://www.omnivision.com.au/

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Re: [WSG] divs and copying their content

2004-07-28 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hi again!

I've seen this problem appear before.
But when I tested http://webstandards.org/ in Opera and Firefox - there was
no problem in selecting the text I wanted. The problem seems only to appear
in Internet Explorer. Just a note :-)

Best regards,
Bent Inge @ www.siteman.no

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From: Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: [WSG] divs and copying their content


hi all

this might actually be something simple that I've forgotten but I'm noticing
more div layed out sites are harder to accuratly select the text content.
Select a word or two and next thing you know you've highlighted (and
copied/pasted) half the page inc images.

to see what I mean, see if you can cleanly select a couple of words from
http://webstandards.org/. you'll probably end up with more than you selected

can anyone explain why?

thanx
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Re: [WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE

2004-07-27 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hi again, Ben!

I'm aware of the problem with list items, and it sucks... But the markup
(http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/designmal.php) can't be changed in
order for the menu to work. So the changes has to be made in the stylesheet
(http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/global.css)

So - is there some way of tricking IE for this excact type of listmenu?

Thank you for your time :-)

Best regards,
Bent Inge Høiås

- Original Message -
From: Ben Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE


 Hi Bent,

  ...The menu is tested in Opera, Firefox and Netscape and in these
browsers the
  menu seems to work as expected.
  IE, however, give me an unwanted gap when accessing sublevels. How do I
  solve that problem?
 
  Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)


 IE has a thing about whitespace around list items. Try removing it.
 eg, ulli.../liul

 Taa-daa.

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 morning; or that it is a morning to be good on? -Gandalf
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[WSG] CSS Drop down menu - Bugfix IE

2004-07-26 Thread Siteman DA - Bent Inge
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!

I use a css drop down menu that works fantastic for most browsers, except
for Internet Explorer (off course).
The menu is tested in Opera, Firefox and Netscape and in these browsers the
menu seems to work as expected.
IE, however, give me an unwanted gap when accessing sublevels. How do I
solve that problem?

Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)

The page is located here: http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/designmal.php
and the stylesheet is here: http://www.regnskapsbyraet.no/sider/global.css

The menu is based on the menu found at
http://www.naarvoren.nl/artikel/hover_cssmenu.html but is moderated some...

Code for the menu is found under the comment /* DROP DOWN MENY */ in the
CSS.

(The page is validated XHTML 1.0 Transitional and CSS2)

Best regards,

Bent Inge Høiås

Address:
Teknologiveien 22
N-2815 Gjøvik
Norway

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no

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