Re: [WSG] New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-06 Thread Vincent Johansen
The whole deal about putting buttons on websites we make for clients is 
in my humble opinion quite retarded. You're directing traffic straight 
out of your clients website and to a page where they go Wha? All of a 
sudden you lost the user. Put those damn buttons on your own webpage if 
you absolutely have to show everyone just how much you care about web 
standards.


I assume that if you're a webdesigner (or webprogramer or some sort of 
company) you've got an informative page on your site where potensial 
clients may read the benefits of building webpages with standards in 
mind and why you are the right person/company to do so.


What we do not need is another worthless button/badge to put on the 
webpages we (actually I mean you, because I don't put those buttons 
everywhere) make. No matter how we tell average people about web 
standards we can't do it with a button, they'll just go Huh?. They 
have no posibility to relate to it unless they read a 2000 words long 
article about it and truly understand why this is so important for some 
people. Even if they realize that web standards is important for some 
people, they might be too selfish or ignorant that they won't give a 
rats ass about it.


Your clients need to hear that they'll save money and give users a 
better experience while viewing his/hers pages. They don't need to hear 
that they may or may not put a button on their page if they successfully 
make a website that passes XHTML validation.


If you absolutely want to tell people about webstandards write to your 
local newspaper or something like that, just don't do it on the property 
of your clients.



Regards
Vincent HasselgÄrd



Peter Williams wrote:


From: Patrick H. Lauke

Peter Williams wrote:
   


1 star for content to markup ratio
1 star for validation of markup and css
 

Let the market regulate itself. Let standards-compliant markup sites 
take over because of their benefits actually manifesting themselves 
(easier to maintain, faster, etc). We don't need yet another 
badge...imho of course.
   



It's not yet another badge, it was a way to show compliance
in a way that average people could relate to. As a response
to the charge that the W3C buttons and validator links are
too techy and people business people don't get it.

 



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Re: [WSG] Styling legends and fieldsets

2005-10-19 Thread Vincent Johansen
A little bit on the legend tag and Internet Explorer at the IEBlog
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/10/12/480242.aspx

Hope this can be somewhat helpfull to you. Actually it might make you
even more frustrated, but it's definitely related and worth the read.


Vincent


Re: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread Vincent Johansen
1. You got a problem with IE5.2 for Mac too, your footer won't display.

2. It seems to me that you got alot of unescesary classes and id's in
your stylesheet, in addition you've both got an inline stylesheet and
external one, some ID's and classes are defined two times. It would be
a good idea for you to clean up the CSS code to make sure that the same
thing won't be defined twice.

3. Your styles should go in your head/head area. Not
outside. And you need to end your amp with ; so it reads amp;

I doubt this will help the 100% height design though, but are issues that needs to be fixed. :)

Good luck! I'll see if I can look deeper into this later.


-Vincent HasselgÄrd
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