RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)
Or pass hidden parameters onto the action page ... these then can be over ridden if the radio is selected From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike KearSent: Wednesday, 2 February 2005 2:51 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?) With radio buttons, no value is passed to the form's action page unless one of the options is selected. This will normally cause an error in the processing page unless special consideration is given to this possibility.Normally if there are radio buttons on the form, it is best to ensure that at least one option is selected.CheersMike KearAFP Webworks Pty LtdWindsor, NSW, Australiahttp://afpwebworks.comIndustrial strength coldfusion, .asp, .asp.net, php hosting from A$15/month - Original Message From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgTo: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)Date: 01/02/05 20:56I think this is like FAQs - my FAQ is never there. Likewise, pre-set a controlto option A and I'm equally likely to want option B.IMHO pre-setting options for the user (unless they're VERY obvious) is likemaking assumptions about them.That said, RFC1866 says 'CHECKED' is optional but then says "At all times,exactly one of the radio buttons in a set is checked. If none of the INPUTelements of a set of radio buttons specifies 'CHECKED', then the user agentmust check the first radio button of the set initially."Does anybody know why one button has to be checked "at all times" in acircumstance like Chris referred to?ThanksRowanQuoting Iain Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oops, sorry I didn't really read your question thoroughly. Surely an e-mail address will be either a personal or a business address. Personally I'd set the default to personal as this seems to me the most likely option. Iain -- Iain Gardiner http://www.firelightning.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris W. Parker Sent: 01 February 2005 19:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?) Hello, Not sure if this is off topic or not, but let me know if it is. I'm wondering what the suggested default state of a group of radio buttons is? Let me use a current, specific example. In a form I'm writing I have one set of radio buttons. The current options are 'Home', or 'Agency'. The radio button is meant to designate what type of mailing address the customer has provided. Right now I've got neither option being defaulted to. I know that radio buttons should have exactly one option chosen at all times, but in this case it doesn't make sense to add a third option of 'None', or have the group default to one option or the other. How should I handle this? Should I bite the bullet and have the options default to one of the options (both options will probably be chosen an equal amount of times, as has been the case in the past)? Or maybe I should go to a drop down list with three options? 1. '-', 2. 'Home', 3. 'Agency' Your feedback is appreciated. Chris. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help**Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE returns a blank page
We had this problem too ... It had something to do with the Proxy server ... If you view the source ... Do you just get the two tags HTML/HTML nothing inbetween? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie Riggs Sent: Monday, 24 January 2005 9:14 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE returns a blank page Sometimes simply clearing my browser cache does the trick for me - although I'm sure you've already tried this. Leslie Riggs I can't figure out what can be causing the problem, because it doesn't work with any of my friends computers either... this is so weird... Juha-Markku Liikala Department of Information Processing Science University of Oulu, Finland ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Possible Min-height issue
You could use this little bit of code to find the position of one
element then do the work to place the other element using the new found
co-ords
function GetElementPostion(xElement){
var selectedPosX = 0;
var selectedPosY = 0;
var theElement = document.getElementById(xElement);
while(theElement != null){
selectedPosX += theElement.offsetLeft;
selectedPosY += theElement.offsetTop;
theElement = theElement.offsetParent;
}
return selectedPosX+px + , + selectedPosY + px;
}
Cheers,
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alex Katechis
Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2005 9:41 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Possible Min-height issue
Hmmm, I think that you could adapt a javascript/css fix that I found on
an
ALA article (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/footer) you might need
to
factor in padding, margins, borders, and heights of the different
elements
in your page.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Tom Livingston
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:49 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Possible Min-height issue
Hello all,
Here's my page:
http://66.155.251.20/picotte.com/about/index.cfm
All is well except...
What I need is for the bottom of the 'grey bar with little squares'
image below the copy to stay flush with the bottom of the blue on the
right (below Brokers Only) **when the content/copy is _not_ longer
than the right, blue side of the page**. When it is, it should push
down the page along with the footer, staying in place below the
copy/content.
Seems like a min-height thing, but can I actually do that to the
#content div in my current situation? I was attempting to implement the
min-height fix from mezzoblue, but it seemed to have no effect (at
least not the effect I was looking for ;-) ).
Any help would be greatly, and publicly, appreciated as well as incite
a lengthy happy-dance here in my office. Sorry, no video feed...
Tom Livingston
Senior Multimedia Artist
Media Logic
mlinc.com
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RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Cranmer Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check Working on a Mac, using Firefox, I've finally got some pages and CSS that validate and work on IE mac, safari and opera. But, IE on PCs might be another story. They worked on PCs quite a while ago and I'm almost afraid to ask now. The pages are very understated and plain. No flash or anything else exciting. I'm trying for a calm and peaceful look. If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I'd really appreciate it If you could just check this one page - http://orderlyspaces.com/organize.html Thanks in advance! Barry ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
This little article might be of help... http://builder.com.com/5100-6371_14-5164730-2.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Cranmer Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 1:41 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check Hello, Thanks very much for your message and especially for the screen shot. Hm... now to figure out how to fix this mess. Thanks again. On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 09:27 PM, Wybrow, Mark wrote: Hello Quick remark from a PC IE 6+ ... the body of text drops below the Menu height stretches past the banner image width ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check
I say post away ... :) This is a friendly place ... [isn't it] We can filter answer, we are all big ppl [aren't we?] - I am sure if it's a stupid post some one will tell you or help - you know the saying some ppls garbage is another's treasure My $00.02 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Thursday, 6 January 2005 3:04 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] asking a PC user for a page check As a new member this leaves me in a position of being hesitant to post, not wanting to bother anyone. So far I have liked the group, and both am interested in viewing the sites posted such as this one, and learn from it all. I am the type though, not to want to bother anyone, in which case I am hesitant to post anything at all...? Bruce Lea de Groot wrote: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:23:09 -0500, Barry Cranmer wrote: If a PC user has a bit of time to spare, could you take a look and let me know what happens when viewed by software from the evil empire? I would really suggest you make use of http://browsercam.com/ (from memory - google browsercam if I'm wrong) in the first instance, rather than bother 1000 people - while most of us are happy to help, it just doesn't seem a sensible use of resources. Browsercam gives screen shots you can work from for most of the major browsers - perfect. HIH Lea ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] expand divs height with content
But isn't the problem that the content inside the float div is also a float div therefore overlapping/breaking out of its container the container ... ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Krespanis Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 2004 4:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] expand divs height with content Try and float just #contentLeft or #contentRight, but not both. There's nothing wrong with floating all your columns. In fact, I always float both columns as I find it more reliable than using margins/padding to clear adjacent cols. This article will solve your problem. Apply the hack to your main container http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html Andrew. http://leftjustified.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
There is a tool in Dreamweaver that can auto generate but I must admit I have never used it ... a plugin that works in [ free xcellent ] HTML-Kit - http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 9:10 AM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
