Re: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that have no height declared
There is an issue where a PNG will not look exactly the same in IE vrs FF So if you try to match a background with the PNG you may have issues between the browsers having said that I love PNGs myself On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Foskett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Brett, you're wrong. The png format will handle three levels of bit-depth including 8-bit which is the same as the gif format. The references you state are somewhat outdated and don't consider the different methods of compression that a png will handle natively. I suggest you try a few comparisons out yourself. They don't always work out smaller but most often they do. Seconded. You can make 8 bit PNGs with as little as 8 colors or as many as 256. Just try Save for Web Devices in Photoshop CS3. I don't even bother with GIFs anymore, the 8-bit PNGs come out smaller almost every time. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** life is certain death is short ~furry lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that have no height declared
Sorry Mike I do not have an example at the moment - just remember past headaches with it - apparently there is a solution http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ per a previous email on this thread - you can google the issue I'm sure Neal There is an issue where a PNG will not look exactly the same in IE vrs FF Never come across that, have you a reference or example? I have come across something similar with Safari and Photoshop images not blending. But it wasn't png related it was a gamma setting in Photoshop. Brett: PNGgauntlet is freeware: http://brh.numbera.com/software/pnggauntlet/ As is PNGcrush: http://pmt.sourceforge.net/pngcrush/ If you're not using a decent compressor then png's are 15% - 20% oversized. I'll have to agree to disagree with you on gif file-size being smaller. Mike Foskett http://websemantics.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 November 2008 15:59 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that have no height declared There is an issue where a PNG will not look exactly the same in IE vrs FF So if you try to match a background with the PNG you may have issues between the browsers having said that I love PNGs myself On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Foskett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Brett, you're wrong. The png format will handle three levels of bit-depth including 8-bit which is the same as the gif format. The references you state are somewhat outdated and don't consider the different methods of compression that a png will handle natively. I suggest you try a few comparisons out yourself. They don't always work out smaller but most often they do. Seconded. You can make 8 bit PNGs with as little as 8 colors or as many as 256. Just try Save for Web Devices in Photoshop CS3. I don't even bother with GIFs anymore, the 8-bit PNGs come out smaller almost every time. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** life is certain death is short ~furry lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ---Warning This e-mail is from outside Tesco - check that it is genuine. Tesco may monitor and record all e-mails. Disclaimer This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** life is certain death is short ~furry lewis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] A Question of Semantics
The Something: is a different font size, and kind of a header for the list. It seems you answered your own question something should be a header (h.x tag) look at the footer on sites like linkedin.com - very common approach Neal Hello, I have a small semantic problem that I can't make up my mind about. Basically, I have a list like this: I can't decide if I should just do a paragraph with Something strong or in a span, or if I should do a header and then the text in a paragraph, with some CSS to make it look properly, or if I should make it some kind of definition or other list. What do you think? Thanks. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net/ http://www.arwebdesign.net Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility
What about www.textpattern.com has anyone tried this? ~n uoting Steve Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:15:13 +0800 Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, ... Is there a way to make Mambo compatible (A large reason for the work is to allow blind users to get value from the site) with accessiblily and hopefully web standards? Is there another CMS that you would mention which may suit my needs? I've never used it myself, but you might want to take a look at Joomla. It's compatible with Mambo at this point http://www.joomla.org/index.php?Itemid=44option=com_faqcatid=7 and the developers are at least are trying to be compliant and accessible http://help.joomla.org/content/view/805/125/ Cheers, Steve Ferguson - http://illumit.com/ Regards, Lloyd ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Neal Watkins www.constructweb.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS equivalent for image alignment
vertical-align: top middle or bottom (middle may be center) Quoting Ben Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, What is the CSS way of setting the align attribute of img / to middle? e.g., img src=___ align=middle / I just want to align text to the middle of an button image sitting on the same line instead of to the bottom of it. TIA -- Ben Wong e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: http://blog.onehero.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Neal Watkins www.constructweb.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Controlling the li gap?
Use padding example: ul li {padding-left: 5px;} that should helpcan use negative amounts Quoting Janelle Clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there anyway to control the space between the bullet and text of an li? Our designer is having issues with this and since I am in charge of creating the templates I need to find a workaround. Thanks, Janelle ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] site review
I seek advice on ways to bette rbuild this if anyone can provide suggestions I would appreciate it!!! http://www.constructweb.com/css/russ/ 1) if anyone has any betters way to approach this almost tableless design I would love to hear it 2) the blue background is Just there to see the problem -- why is the height so big ??? I cant figure it out--- 3) the 6 reasons section has a box model problem - i believe which I think I can fix - (look at it in firefox) 4) notice I relatively positioned the boxes - in a boxcontent div - yet they are different in IE and firefox--- there's a hack to correct this right? Thanks Neal ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Generated Content
So what I understand from your tutorial Moose, and from my own experimenting, is that simple content can be displayed in Mozilla, eg. img:after {content: attr(alt)} but anything complex, including counters doesn't appear (anyone got a hack?) From literarymoose though it appears that Opera does display the generated content. Peter. Moose wrote: I'm wondering if anyone out there can point me to an article or crib-sheet discussing the current support for generated content in CSS2. Such as are discussed here http://www.richinstyle.com/guides/generated2.html. I would like to use counters to add numbering to headings in web-versions of some technical documents. Allo, See here: http://www.literarymoose.info/=/article/conquistadors.html 3 pages full of generated content. Enjoy! M. p.s. IE will see nothing, hear nothing... so it's safe to use GC. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * -- Peter Neal UNESCO Centre for Membrane Science and Technology School of Chemical Engineering and Industrial Chemistry The University of New South Wales UNSW SYDNEY 2052 Australia Office: +61-2-9385-4382 Lab: +61-2-9385-4320 Fax: +61-2-9385-5966 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *